This ones been discussed to death and the logic is quite plain that it is better for Gallacher to play week-in, week-out than to be sitting on our bench every week.
Bringing in a solid veteran to cover our first choice for a season, while he's out getting game time, helps everyone involved.

If Gallagher is good enough to be between the sticks at lower league level (where presumably he'll end up on loan) then he should be Gers No 1.

This giving him experience is a load of bull

I don't get it. I accept Gallagher will benefit from a loan spell and regular first team football. Why not promote up the next kid to be back up to Bell.

If Bell gets an injury you make sure you have a recall clause in the loan for Gallagher and get him back to play first team football.

A waste of a wage, a waste of a jersey, another young player denied progress and more money spunked on something not required.

I hate to sound like a broken record but it really annoys me the fact that we don't seem to be learning from past mistakes.

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Financially it has no logic whatseover.

Simonson will be on a decent wage.

Promote a kid as Blutoonger said.

That would be logical.

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We should've just tried Gallagher out at the end of last season during all those meaningless games after we'd won the league, then if he wasn't good enough we could've brought in Bell.

Nah that's to complicated... Ally's solution (as always) is just to bring someone new in.

No doubt another £5k a week player. To sit on the bench. On the off chance our keeper gets injured because we desperately need a top class back up keeper against div 2 diddies.

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I'd be stunned if Steve Simonsen was going to be paid £5k a week.

This is a guy who was on the books at Dundee last year. I dont imagine they paid him any more than £500-£1k a week.

We dont need an experienced backup

If we want Gallagher to get games, send him out, by all means.

But we rely on Bell, and if he cant play, we give a young guy a shot or we recall Gallagher.

It reeks of many things that happened under Walter this kind of thing.

McCulloch getting flung in at CB and denying Wilson his shot, who finally got it and we made £5m out of him.

Andy Little sitting on the bench, most of our recognised strikers getting injured and talk of Whittaker starting up front ahead of Little getting pass marks from some bears, only for Lafferty to become fit again and start instead.......the ironic thing there being Little came on in the late stages of that game and scored the late equaliser to get us a point agaisnt Hearts at Ibrox.

We badly need to give young guys a shot.

We are going to end up with umpteen Jordan McMillans if we dont...McMillan signed a senior contract at 16 and was on the bench god knows how many times, he was part of the first team make up for over 7 years, sat on the bench for four years before finally making his debut, aged 20, in 2009, and he made just the one other solitary first team appearance.....in SEVEN fcking years, thats ridiculous, lad never got a chance at all!!

He was named in the SPFA first division team of the year last season and Partick Thistle have signed him for the SPL now

Spot on Stevie - and there have been others as well.

Shinnie ran us ragged last year and looked the best player on the park.

We never gave him a shot.

This has to be the time to give these guys a chance. And to be fair to Ally he did last season - but in some ways that was just through necessity. Id like to see us (for once) CHOOSE to give these guys a chance.

I mean, so what of we lose a few league games this year? We'll still win it and we might just save ourselves a few quid by developing our own players.

Bell's had more than a few injuries in his time and I'd imagine a club wanting to use gallacher as a first team keeper wouldnt be too happy if he had to be recalled mid season,maybe looki for some no recall in the loan agreement

If he's goin out on loan it really has to be for the whole season

Partick such revolutionary talk will have you excluded

For what its worth I agree wholeheartedly.

Gallagher's record with us is almost just as bad

People think he's a young lad.
He's 24, Bell is 26

Bell, who got a chance at Killie, has played over 130 first team games and also has a Scotland cap.

Gallagher has been on our books since 2006, has sat behind Mcgregor and Alexander for years, got 7 games on loan at Cowdenbeath in 2008, the only time he's been loaned out, and made his debut for us, after 7 years at the club, in the 4-0 win over Albion Rovers at the start of this season.

If it wasnt for the trialist rules, he would've sat on the bench again

Bell's signed now so he's obvious first choice...if gallacher wants experience he'll have to go out on loan...would be totally defeating the purpose if we recalled him

Patrick you asked so what if we lose a few games?

Have you seen the response of people on here when we lose a game

Super, aye I know. But we need to be less short term in our thinking. If people can't handle losing a few games for the sake of progress, or trying a different ethos at the club they are just glory supporters, spoilt on success and can GTF for all i care

If young kelly was thrown in at the deep end and had a few clangers not only would it cost points but it could possibly ruin the lads confidence..the boy would cop pelters and not just from a few glory hunters....

Possibly- I'd hope that people might realise that he's just a young guy and is standing in.

The flip side is he might come in and play a few blinders and the fans will really take to him and his confidence will grow.

You can't really predict it, and I'd agree if we were talkin about a 1st choice keeper, but a reserve one? Just don't see the need for an experienced back up. They rarely play anyway..

Bell was available on a free and is already proven to be one of the finest keepers in the country.
Gallacher on the other hand is totally untried and untested at any professional level,
Are you saying that we shouldn't have signed Bell when he was available with no transfer fee and was more than willing to sign?

With the defence we had last year, it was a total waste of time having a rookie between the sticks.
There's no chance the lad was getting a game ahead of MacGregor and anyone thinking otherwise is off the heid.
Our prime objective is to gain promotion.
Blooding youngsters is just a bonus of that, where it can be done.
In this case, if he's getting blooded at another team (in probably a higher league) then wtf is the problem with that?

He doesn't get a game ahead of Bell, he doesn't get a game ahead of Alexander and he doesn't get a game ahead of MacGregor.
Any manager who would have, should be shot so it's a ridiculous argument to suggest that he should have had more gametime by now, when we had fit and far more accomplished keepers (and Scottish internationals at that) ahead of him in the queue.

Blooding youngsters is just a bonus of that, where it can be done.
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That's what I mean - the league was wrapped up by February really. Why didnt we drop Alexander for a few games and play Gallagher?

We had nothing to lose. Could've tested him out and if he was decent enough as back up then we wouldn't need to be fannyin about trying to sign Simonsen.

I wouldn't mind losing a few games so long as we attempted to play decent, fast-flowing football instead of the turgid pash we banged out last season. Last night was dire but then we weren't anywhere really near full-strength when you think of who are to come in once this petty embargo is over.

Don't see why we are going for Simonsen when Gallagher has played really well between the sticks so far and with us obviously having Bell too.

He needs to start working to get rid of the deadwood instead of signing yet more players

I couldn't believe the difference last night - just shows how good Law is.

Said it on the live thread, P.B. The midfield was all over the shop with nobody controlling it. Not one player could put his foot on the ball, slow it down and pick a pass. Was painful to watch.

If McCoist doesnt get a backup in and kelly has a 'mare...it'll be fùck sake ally where's the backup?

If gallacher doesnt go on loan come it'll be ...fùck sake ally that boy's wasted on the bench

Usual rock and a hard place shìt

Shiels looked well short of fitness which I think was part of the problem...I was thinkin at half time get him off for mcausland and fire jig up top with temps or little goin wide ....wee bazza done the damage tho