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Back with a Wengance?

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posted on 27/9/13

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posted on 27/9/13

Brilliant article, a great read.

Imo, it is all too soon. I've previously stated that Wenger has earned the right to see out his contract and has this season to prove he deserves a new one.

Personally, I still standby that viewpoint and won't be jumping the gun anytime soon. It's been a wonderful start, but May is the time to judge. It's a long, long season ahead.

posted on 27/9/13

Excellent, but a very cheesyyy headline.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 27/9/13

I'd say it is probably too soon to offer him a contract, however few things need to be highlighted.
- I'm not sure Wenger himself will sign any contract just yet, at least not until the second part of the season. I'm sure if it was just for the board, he would have signed a new one by now but for some reasons, he keeps put it on hold.
- Silent Stan's words are a bit of worry. He basically said he leaves Wenger running the club, which means whoever come after Wenger, it will be expected from him to do the same.
- Stan and Gazidis are well aware of the interest from the PSG!
- Özil deal wouldn't have been possible without a well established coach like him. Cazorla said the same as well yesterday. They both looking at Wenger in order to improve their game.

Anyway, my point is that it is too soon but on the other hand, can we afford to lose him without a proper and decent replacement.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 27/9/13

Oh and btw, top article: 5 stars from me.

posted on 27/9/13

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posted on 27/9/13

OP, in my opinion you should filter Godfather. The patronizing self-help advice is painful to read.

Great article, keep on doing what you do.

IAWT, great points As somebody generally looking for somebody new in 2014, the enormous role Arsene has taken on at the club seems both under appreciated (by myself) and very difficult to replace.

posted on 27/9/13

At least your articles have improved since I first blocked you but there is still plenty of nonsense here
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Godfather, the quality of my articles is as good as it's ever been - even if I do say so myself. It certainly compares to the articles written about you while you were being raised in captivity.

OP, in my opinion you should filter Godfather. The patronizing self-help advice is painful to read.
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Advice noted and followed.

Silent Stan's words are a bit of worry. He basically said he leaves Wenger running the club, which means whoever come after Wenger, it will be expected from him to do the same.
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That is a worry, I agree - but I think because of the length of time that Wenger has been at Arsenal, a lot of backroom staff and functionaries would probably follow him out the door, so it could signal a reshuffle which might solve the issue. Possibly.

posted on 27/9/13

Good article.

To be honest Arsene needs a bit of pressure to push him on and get the team competitive again. Properly competitive not fall away in Feb/March. It's obvious we have issues that need addressing but hopefully the Ozil is a sign we are finally willing/able to spend the cash necessary to add genuine WC talent to the squad.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 27/9/13

That is a worry, I agree - but I think because of the length of time that Wenger has been at Arsenal, a lot of backroom staff and functionaries would probably follow him out the door, so it could signal a reshuffle which might solve the issue. Possibly.
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Or it could make it even worse. Look at ManU, they changed manager and back room staff and they have a difficult start.

posted on 27/9/13

Or it could make it even worse. Look at ManU, they changed manager and back room staff and they have a difficult start.
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True, but that will depend on who is brought in, I'd say. If we bring in a manager from Europe, who are already accustomed to that level of responsibility and delegation, the transition would be smoother - I think it was something of a culture shock for Moyes.

posted on 27/9/13

As usual 5 's from me. Brilliant article.

I read out a bit carefulness of the whole devolopment between the lines of this article. In fact I have my doubts to if we are over the corner of resistence. The way and circumstancies we got Özil may suggest that. Dont think we were after him in the first place but its a good beginning.

Let's carry on to buy quality players in January. We have already a good basis at our club only held up with some injuries that could really spoil our party.

If Wenger is the man for the future remains to be seen earliest in January.

posted on 27/9/13

The way and circumstancies we got Özil may suggest that. Dont think we were after him in the first place but its a good beginning.
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True, I think the signing of Ozil was more to do with being in the right place at the right time, than any kind of pre-planning.

It almost seems like the solution for Arsenal - don't plan transfers, because those attempts always seem to fall flat. Just wait to pounce.

posted on 27/9/13

good article indeed. I would say the end of this season will tell us everything about the proposed 2nd coming of Wenger and what this current Arsenal team attains.

if we finish 4th yet again, then things are up for a very good debate, do we go on with accepting this or move on ?

Well see, good luck to Wenger, he certainly has rebuilt another Arsenal team once more even if it was not all planned.

posted on 27/9/13

Of course it's too soon, just wait for a draw or a loss then everyone will be asking for his head again.

To me we are walking on a tightrope with our team, I just hope we can get to January without any other major injuries!

In regards to change of management, it would need a big re-org, no manager does as much as Wenger does. It's seems from when Dein left the board left too much responsibility for him and I can't see anyone else being able to take this on. Our board seem to be a bit incompetent.

I'm just praying for a good season and for a good transition when he decides to leave so that we're not left in the lurch.

comment by OwO (U18355)

posted on 27/9/13

Good article, at the moment I am happy at things are. Wenger's contract is up in May and as far as I am concerned, he is currently on trial for a new one. He should not be offered a new contract until he proves he deserves one. He needs to show more ambition in January, as well as progression on the pitch. He needs to show he can learn from his mistakes or he needs to go.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 27/9/13

You softened your speech Bats
Has the Ozil's signing won you over?

Anyway, despite my username, I have no objection with Wenger leaving and not given a new contract.
But ideally, I'd love to see the back of Gazidis and Kroenke first. As Ozil's Optometrist said, our board seem to be quite incompetent, at least when it comes to football matter.

comment by OwO (U18355)

posted on 27/9/13

All I wanted was some ambition and progression, he has shown it so far which is an improvement but he hasn't proven he deserves a new contract or anything like that yet.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 27/9/13

Fair enough and agreed with you. Lets just hope that this is the start of something different from both him and the board.

comment by OwO (U18355)

posted on 27/9/13

Yea I think January will go a long way to showing how serious we really are about competing.

posted on 27/9/13

yeah, it always boils down to money. Wengs brings in his top man (OZIL), gambles a little with the strength of our squad rather than bolster it more at the start of the season. reviews where we are at come January, it's one way of doing it if your always trying to save money and that's his way you can never deny that and it's not a criticism either!

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 27/9/13

Here are some quotes from the Guardian
" Wenger loves Aaron Ramsey. He has done since he courted him as a Cardiff City player and flew him and his parents to Switzerland on a private jet in the summer of 2008, where he was working as a European Championship pundit, to convince Ramsey to sign for Arsenal. As Manchester United dithered, Wenger's personal touch was decisive"

Who ever comes after Wenger, he needs to be able to do things like this.

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