A player diving does not even compare to Broads, let alone an intentional handball, where a goal was gained.

I would compare it to, lets say Lampards "goal" in the World cup, against Germany, which was never given.

If a defender saw it cross the line, but never put his hand up and tell the ref, then I'd say that's more akin to Broad not walking

Neon,

In the above example, I deliberately refrained from using the word “cheat” for both cases. It’s a matter of opinion, cheat, being economical with the truth, going by the laws of the game, up to the referee and umpire and so on…..

For me, the EVENT itself is irrelevant and is neither here nore there, but it’s the OUTCOME that makes or breaks this argument. The facts are that under the laws of both games, one was out and the other wasn’t a goal. It both instances the officials made a mistake. Under both instances, both players kept quite knowing fully well a wicket should have been lost and a goal should have been disallowed. They are as guilty or as innocent (depending on whichever side of the fence you sit on) as each other.

My personal opinion is broad should have walked, and maradona should have owned up….. your opinion is broad did right and maradona did wrong – there is a lack of consistency to your argument

Just to clarify regards to Broad… sometimes a batsmen nicks it, but cant tell or doesn’t feel it on the bat. In that case, he has 1000% right to stay at the crease. However, Broad himself has said he knew he nicked it – it’s the calculated and conscious element I am referring to here of ‘I know I should be out but I wont budge until the umpire tells me to do so’…… maradona didn’t budge either, because he would have thought ‘if the ref and lineman didn’t see it – tough’.

again, Maradonna should have owned up, as he actually did cheat. I am using the word "cheat" here, as its straight forward and obvious. Thus, as well as a mistake by the officials, he should have owned up as it was blatent cheating.

Broad - did not cheat, did not break the rules. The officials, yes, made a mistake, however, Broad did nothing wrong. He let the umpire make the call which he is entitled to.

There is no lack on consistency here. The incidents are sepereate, the intentions are separate, one broke the rules, one did not.

The lack of consistency is apparent as both cases are quite different. It should bee expected.

Give me an example, whereby it is similar, where by no rules were broken, no one cheated, but failed to own up..and we have something to discuss.

Apples and oranges comes to mind here

Neon,

Your confused mate. You’re saying broad didn’t do anything wrong in terms of not walking off. So your talking about his action AFTER the event. But then state that maradona did something wrong, as in the actual event. Feckkkk the events. Match like for like, then it wont be apples and oranges….. lets make it orange and orange by matching the instances after the event – i.e – neither corrected the officals decision. Broad is not obliged too – but which rule have you read that footballers are duty bound to convey to the ref that they’ve handled the ball???? Stop moving the goalposts and stick to matching like for like!!!

To conclude, both were wrong. They both conned the officials to gain a competitive advantage for their teams. Those to applaud broad should also applaud maradona. Those to call maradona a cheat should also call broad a cheat. Just because everybody does it, doesn’t make it right.

I’ve nothing against anyone holding their own views on the incident. After all I support a team (Pakistan) that have done many wrongs - just because I support them doesn’t mean to say I will agree with the stance at times…. If you prefer deception, dishonesty, and justifying any action if it aids the pursuit of victory ,then you are free to do so. But don’t complain and create excuses for yourself when your on the receiving end and change goalposts and criteria’s to suit your viewpoints.

Cheers neon. In a bit

I have a reply, but this is going nowhere.

In a bit

comment by Afridi14 - THE LION says Hello!! (U2805)
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Neon,

As per kash, can you ask Robbie why he has some of us filtered?
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I'm no longer filtered

This is England v Oz for the Ashes. Get over yourselves
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Then it's ok to cheat in a game...

And also it's ok to fix a match between any south Asian countries..because it happened once or twice..

And also it's ok to sledge (racially) in a match between Saffers vs Zim or Windies..

OP has lost his plot here..

I see the aussies are dragging it up ALL the time..Its just an excuse to get the better of the close decisions in the forth coming ashes..Aslong as England aren't cheated consistently..I'll accept the odd bad call. and you can gurantee England will not get the rub of the green.

Some ppl seem to forget that ashes test.. Agar was on 11 or something and was clearly out stumped .. He went onto make 98.. taking Australia past Englands score.. when they were 120 odd for 9. Australia got some bad decisions against them. But it was mostly their calling of the replays that cost them.. Wish they would grow up.
England will only be motivated more now.

Muffboy, don't even start, you usually don't know what your talking about and you rarely post anything that's actually interesting, but for what its worth (and i suspect you will reply with something equally bland and unrelated...)
1) Match fixing is hardly the same as cheating - its plain throwing a result to gain money - so nah nah nil points
2) and THEN you bring racism into the call, blandly asserting that my post can somehow be related to all things bad in sport. I think you ought to know by now 'mate' that racism cuts across everything INCLUDING sport.
So all in all I think YOU rather lost the plot, not me...

1) Match fixing is hardly the same as cheating - its plain throwing a result to gain money - so nah nah nil points
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Are you real? Throwing few runs in ONE over doesn't considerably alter the outcome of the result in Tests if the player to fight in the next over..

Any form cheating is cheating...

2) As you suggested there is some privilege for Eng vs Aus match, so, for you, it's ok to cheat...next thing you'll say it will be ok to alter the ball to win AT ANY Cost..

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Dear Dr,

How can you compare stealing a loaf bread act to cheating in a match? As I said, is it ok to alter the ball in a match to gain some advantage over a batsman when he is playing good?

I am flabbergasted to see some English fans are supporting cheating in Cricket.

so-called spirit of cricket is so over-rated. Play by the rule , period! Umpires are there to give the decision, if batsman walk, great! if he doesnt ,then lucky him, get over it.
This applies to any player, any team.

so-called spirit of cricket is so over-rated. Play by the rule , period! Umpires are there to give the decision, if batsman walk, great! if he doesnt ,then lucky him, get over it.
This applies to any player, any team.
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The only time you see an aussie walk is when he's run out of petrol!

"Any form of cheating is cheating..."

Your words Muffia.Still stand by 'em or are you going to admit there are different forms of 'cheating'?