I would love to see some unbiased tech experts go through those lines and their level of accuracy. I really don't believe they can tell from those images and that tech to a mm.
Hawkeye works because all the camera's are there bang in line so the angles are perfectly lined up. The offsides aren't and you have humans drawing on lines. I'm still of the opinion if you can't tell from a still image without lines then it's not clear and obvious.
Basically use the one line going along the pitch. If they are at a point after that when they're still unsure and need to get the dotted line out as well, then say "fack it, this is mental" and just award it onside.
But then you have the issue of being within that margin of error. All you’re doing is moving the lines back. This has been the precise problem with what they’re trying to do in the Netherlands.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 44 seconds ago
VAR is alright. The use of VAR isnt.
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Except that’s not correct, because there’s no other way to use it.
Offsides are essentially a matter of fact and so if we accept VAR then we accept this ridiculous level of precision.
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VAR isnt used only for offside decisions. So there is space for interpretation.
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comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 44 seconds ago
VAR is alright. The use of VAR isnt.
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Except that’s not correct, because there’s no other way to use it.
Offsides are essentially a matter of fact and so if we accept VAR then we accept this ridiculous level of precision.
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VAR isnt used only for offside decisions. So there is space for interpretation.
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I used offside to illustrate that VAR is effectively the source of the problem.
If they used sensors instead of video, like Hawkeye, and goal line technology then the linesman could get an immediate signal that it's offside and he can raise his flag to get a taxi to the job centre as he'd no longer be needed.
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 10 hours, 53 minutes ago
If they used sensors instead of video, like Hawkeye, and goal line technology then the linesman could get an immediate signal that it's offside and he can raise his flag to get a taxi to the job centre as he'd no longer be needed.
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Hold on....you haven't thought this through...
There's the collecting of the ball off the plinth as they come out, someone's got to bring a shiny coin out for the toss, not to mention someone needs to tell the players when the games' finished...I like footy, but I haven't got all day
Varane with another big mistake
big name player ...he gets away with it though
still hasn't been dropped , despite never ending big mistakes
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted about a minute ago
Is hazard injured ?
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yes...got injured against alaves at the weekend...another month out
I don't want Real Madrid to go into the europa. Hopefully Inter overtake them in the group
Madrid on the rack but you just know they get an equaliser at minimum
Real really struggling in Shakhtar
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted about a minute ago
Is hazard injured ?
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yes...got injured against alaves at the weekend...another month out
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Saw that lost money on real not getting back into the game. At home aswell
Curtois with the big mistake
Zidane has to be in the danger zone if this scoreline stays as it is
Varane makes mistakes regularly
Lokomotiv Moscow scored vs Salzburg
We need to bring Hazard home in January
comment by Forrr - Admin 4 (U18420)
posted less than a minute ago
Lokomotiv Moscow scored vs Salzburg
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1-3 Salsburg
goooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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posted on 30/11/20
I would love to see some unbiased tech experts go through those lines and their level of accuracy. I really don't believe they can tell from those images and that tech to a mm.
Hawkeye works because all the camera's are there bang in line so the angles are perfectly lined up. The offsides aren't and you have humans drawing on lines. I'm still of the opinion if you can't tell from a still image without lines then it's not clear and obvious.
posted on 30/11/20
Basically use the one line going along the pitch. If they are at a point after that when they're still unsure and need to get the dotted line out as well, then say "fack it, this is mental" and just award it onside.
posted on 30/11/20
But then you have the issue of being within that margin of error. All you’re doing is moving the lines back. This has been the precise problem with what they’re trying to do in the Netherlands.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 44 seconds ago
VAR is alright. The use of VAR isnt.
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Except that’s not correct, because there’s no other way to use it.
Offsides are essentially a matter of fact and so if we accept VAR then we accept this ridiculous level of precision.
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VAR isnt used only for offside decisions. So there is space for interpretation.
posted on 30/11/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 44 seconds ago
VAR is alright. The use of VAR isnt.
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Except that’s not correct, because there’s no other way to use it.
Offsides are essentially a matter of fact and so if we accept VAR then we accept this ridiculous level of precision.
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VAR isnt used only for offside decisions. So there is space for interpretation.
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I used offside to illustrate that VAR is effectively the source of the problem.
posted on 30/11/20
If they used sensors instead of video, like Hawkeye, and goal line technology then the linesman could get an immediate signal that it's offside and he can raise his flag to get a taxi to the job centre as he'd no longer be needed.
posted on 1/12/20
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 10 hours, 53 minutes ago
If they used sensors instead of video, like Hawkeye, and goal line technology then the linesman could get an immediate signal that it's offside and he can raise his flag to get a taxi to the job centre as he'd no longer be needed.
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Hold on....you haven't thought this through...
There's the collecting of the ball off the plinth as they come out, someone's got to bring a shiny coin out for the toss, not to mention someone needs to tell the players when the games' finished...I like footy, but I haven't got all day
posted on 1/12/20
1-0 shakhtar
posted on 1/12/20
Shocking from varane
posted on 1/12/20
Varane with another big mistake
posted on 1/12/20
big name player ...he gets away with it though
still hasn't been dropped , despite never ending big mistakes
posted on 1/12/20
Is hazard injured ?
posted on 1/12/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted about a minute ago
Is hazard injured ?
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yes...got injured against alaves at the weekend...another month out
posted on 1/12/20
I don't want Real Madrid to go into the europa. Hopefully Inter overtake them in the group
posted on 1/12/20
Madrid on the rack but you just know they get an equaliser at minimum
posted on 1/12/20
Real really struggling in Shakhtar
posted on 1/12/20
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted about a minute ago
Is hazard injured ?
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yes...got injured against alaves at the weekend...another month out
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Saw that lost money on real not getting back into the game. At home aswell
Curtois with the big mistake
Zidane has to be in the danger zone if this scoreline stays as it is
posted on 1/12/20
Varane makes mistakes regularly
posted on 1/12/20
Lokomotiv Moscow scored vs Salzburg
posted on 1/12/20
We need to bring Hazard home in January
posted on 1/12/20
Salzburg 3-1
posted on 1/12/20
comment by Forrr - Admin 4 (U18420)
posted less than a minute ago
Lokomotiv Moscow scored vs Salzburg
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1-3 Salsburg
posted on 1/12/20
goooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
posted on 1/12/20
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