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posted on 24/11/13

comment by gbwolf

Listen son when I need advice from an immature little twát i'll be sure to let you know......

You should come back when you know anything about football.....

posted on 24/11/13

"it isn't a logical argument to say that one player has benefitted from more decisions than another unless we sit down and go through every game to prove that point."

Why not? It's very easy to see if you watch football matches. You keep forgetting to respond to the other things like playing in a better team, Suarez being more involved on the pitch, better defensively and also Aguero taking penalties(which he gets more, due to Suarez not getting anything off referees, again in evidence yesterday when Mirallas twice tried to injure him.

posted on 24/11/13

"i think suarez has scored plenty of goals as a result of foul play and getting decisions from the ref."

No it wasn't. You're resorting to lying now.

posted on 24/11/13



Yeah it was Bassong.

Huth did the stamp on Suarez as I recall.

posted on 24/11/13

i think the stoke incident was this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRmxyTDtPhE

posted on 24/11/13

No that was a different incident when Suarez dived.

posted on 24/11/13

i think the stoke incident was this
============================================No, that was Suarez's dive at the Kop end.

Huth's stamp was at the Anfield Road end, completely different incident.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 24/11/13

This is my personal favourite of ridiculous Suarez decisions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0cN0D2Igwo
1:45 in.

I remember absolutely nothing was going for us at the time but all I could do was burst out laughing about the absurdness of that decision.

posted on 24/11/13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UssnfEbVRQ

posted on 24/11/13

Oh it was barnett not bassong

posted on 24/11/13

the problem is that to award a penalty the referre has to be absolutely certain and if there is any doubt you don't give it. and the reason refs might doubt suarez? because there are countless examples of him diving and pretending hehas been fouled when he hasn't.

in all honesty, do liverpool fans really think the rest of the footballing world have all come to the conclusion that yr man's a cheat out of some personal bias? or based on years of his cheating wherever he has played? it is exactly the same with ronaldo, ashley young, gareth bale, jurgen klinsmann back in the day - all great players but with a justified reputation as divers.










except ashley young who IS a diver but is also shít

posted on 24/11/13

comment by gbwolf (U17280)
posted 7 hours, 15 minutes ago
i have had one or two mischevious casts on the spurs board uncle. as well as a few on the liverpool board last night. had a few bites and reeled in a couple of big fish already
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I think this would explain things better than your inane ramblings.

posted on 24/11/13

comment by gbwolf (U17280)
posted 2 minutes ago
the problem is that to award a penalty the referre has to be absolutely certain and if there is any doubt you don't give it. and the reason refs might doubt suarez? because there are countless examples of him diving and pretending hehas been fouled when he hasn't.

in all honesty, do liverpool fans really think the rest of the footballing world have all come to the conclusion that yr man's a cheat out of some personal bias? or based on years of his cheating wherever he has played? it is exactly the same with ronaldo, ashley young, gareth bale, jurgen klinsmann back in the day - all great players but with a justified reputation as divers.










except ashley young who IS a diver but is also shít
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I don't give a f uck how they came to the conclusion. I want them to apply the same rules to the players who play for the club as support as they apply to other players and that is to judge each incident on its own merit.

posted on 24/11/13

When Leon Barnett is getting away with doing a People's Elbow on Suarez then you know something is wrong.

On a side note, what a goal that was for Suarez's second. Moments earlier the fans were giving him stick for missing that chance, then from the goal kick he nicks it off Turner, spins around, nutmegs him and then buries it in front of those same fans. Class.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 24/11/13

Yeah it was FBK, that miss before hand though was an absolute shocker though, one of the worst I've ever seen from him

posted on 24/11/13

respected,

but the fans who judge those players i named above are usually from so wide a spectrum that it becomes a valid analysis. if it was simply man united fans calling suarez a diver, or liverpool fans calling ronaldo a diver, there'd be justified reason to disregard it as local rivalry. when it is fans from clubs all around the world, it is a bit harder to explain?

and whilst yr trawling for comments you might want to pick out this one too:

http://www.ja606.co.uk/users/viewUser/17280

just so you know i wasn't being hypocritical about suarez, who i do think is a world class player that lets himself down by the way he acts at times.

posted on 24/11/13

sorry think the link failed but here:

"on the ref - i think he handled a lot of the play acting and falling over well and that he reffed edwards ten minutes of madness sensibly. didn't rush to get the cards out, didn't take cráp from either side. as much as the brentfod players fell over every time there was a strong breeze, he let most of it go and didn't give them the free kicks they were clearly after. and let's be honest, griffiths was as bad as their lot yesterday as he fell over a number of times without any real need to.

i haven't seen the penalty decision on the edge of the box again yet so don't know if it was inside or outisde but it did look like a foul so i was not happy he waved play on. i'll see the game on video soon and be better able to judge but if anyone was at the ground with a better view than me, what did they think? the ones inside the box all looked fairly innocuous to me and hard to give.

DJ - you think the 'trip on the edge of the box' was a dive? i thought it was just outside the area but a foul but it is so hard to tell from 60 yards away and in real time. i think griffiths was diving a lot and like you i hate to see that from wolves players.

the other thing the ref missed was griff forearm smash one of their defenders by the northbank cornerflag first half. i laughed because their guy had been checking griffiths all game, but on another day that might have been a red and griff's temper and attitude is somethng he needs to work on because he won't get away with stuff like that if we ever make it into the prem."

for explanation - griffiths is wolves centre forward.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 24/11/13

comment by gbwolf (U17280)
posted 19 minutes ago
when it comes to poor fans:

liverpool














man united


spurs




It's all very boring. Your trying to so hard to hide the wum attempt but everyone saw through you ages ago.

posted on 24/11/13

comment by gbwolf (U17280)
posted 4 minutes ago
respected,

but the fans who judge those players i named above are usually from so wide a spectrum that it becomes a valid analysis. if it was simply man united fans calling suarez a diver, or liverpool fans calling ronaldo a diver, there'd be justified reason to disregard it as local rivalry. when it is fans from clubs all around the world, it is a bit harder to explain?

and whilst yr trawling for comments you might want to pick out this one too:

http://www.ja606.co.uk/users/viewUser/17280

just so you know i wasn't being hypocritical about suarez, who i do think is a world class player that lets himself down by the way he acts at times.
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I didn't say he didn't dive. You're rambling about things which aren't relevant to what I said. You said he benefited from decisions. I named one and you again dodged the question and started rambling about unrelated things. It seems to be a recurring theme.

posted on 25/11/13

respected,

go back to the explanation earlier. my comment was meant to highlight the nonsensical nature of arguing one player has scored more goals than another because he has benefitted from more decisions. it was not saying that suarez DOES benefit from more decisions. the reason i asked if you could think of goals aguero had scored that he didn't deserve to was because i think yr comment was wrong.

i'd also add that any comments on me thinking aguero edges suarez as a player are genuinely held opinions. i think they are both in the top 5 players for ability in the prem but for the reasons i have given above, aguero would be my favourite of the two if i was real madrid wanting to spend £110m as in the OPs original hypothesis.

posted on 25/11/13

I'm not going back to sh it. I'm not wasting my time on you, imbecile.

posted on 25/11/13

respected,

no problem. good to know another football fan has happily entered into polite debate without having to resort to abuse or falling back on tribal instincts

posted on 25/11/13

"good to know another football fan has happily entered into polite debate without having to resort to abuse or falling back on tribal instincts"


Isn't it a pity that you're not capable of it.

comment by Reggie (U13390)

posted on 25/11/13

comment by gbwolf (U17280)
posted 24 minutes ago
respected,

no problem. good to know another football fan has happily entered into polite debate without having to resort to abuse or falling back on tribal instincts
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are you still here?

posted on 25/11/13

I wouldn't want Suarez at Wolves - not even on a free and no wages to pay.

Sure, he has talent (though not as much as Aguero), but I just could not accept the horrid, spiteful, deceiving, angry, uncontrolled, cheating, violent, arrogant little llama faced shìt being a part of my club.



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