comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 8 seconds ago
Robb mate,
Do you really see Moyes toppling City, Liverpool and Chelsea within the next 3 years after spending £200m?
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Yes, of course. And not even with that much money.
You don't seem to understand just how much better we'll be when Moyes sorts out our defence. And I bet people will suddenly translate that as he'll be making us a defensive side which isn't the case.
It just means that with a solid defence and players like Evra and Vidic phased out it'll allow the front players to do their thing without silly defensive errors undoing all their hard work.
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That's because you think our problem is our defence. Its much more than that. A very good manager gets the best out of players. Moyes has failed to do that. Where has the Rio and Vidic of the past been before the Bayern game? Martinez has made the likes of Distin and Barry shine this season. Those two would sadly walk into our with ease. The change has to come from the manager. Is it any coincidence that we play our best football with results when we don't play the Moyes way. And manager would be drooling at the prospect of having the likes of Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj in their ranks but our doesn't know what to do with them.
Simple question for Robbie
1) Is moyes atm shown anything to suggest he is as good as pelligrini/Rodgers/wenger/mourinho?
2)Why do u believe next season will be any different
3)Reason has to apply to moyes ie not a generic excuse you can use to defend any manager.
Where has the Rio and Vidic of the past been before the Bayern game
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That kind of game was tailor made for a couple of old warhorses like them. But they'd both be very poor against teams we had to attack so don't attach too much meaning to that performance in context.
"And manager would be drooling at the prospect of having the likes of Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj in their ranks but our doesn't know what to do with them"
Except he's shown in recent weeks that he does.
You really don't understand that Rooney and RVP don't deserve to be dropped. Those 2 guys always score and get assists when they play.
I agree that one should move on and the likes of Mata, Kagawa and Adnan should play all the time but it's not as easy as dropping one of the big two this season when they get goals.
Martinez would have exactly the same problems if he took over a squad where there were many top players fighting for a few places.
Everton had the young lad Stones and Distin at CB today with Jagielka out injured. And I don't rate Jagielka all that highly anyway. He's really slow and awkward on the ball.
It's a myth their defence is amazing. It just isn't.
Okay their fullbacks are pretty good, I'll give you that. Especially Baines.
I don't think their is an awful lot in it between Coleman and Rafael personally. Coleman is having a better season this year but that's true of many of their players also.
The difference is the manager. He has them believing they can match anyone in a proper football match on their day. Where as before they battled.
Isn't it so funny how United fans are good at bashing opposition managers like Mourinho, Benitez, Mancini who are proven winners domestically and continentally and yet we protect an average manager whose biggest accolade is probably the Manager of the month award?
comment by the GINGER PRINCE'S apprentice (U13920)
posted 3 minutes ago
Simple question for Robbie
1) Is moyes atm shown anything to suggest he is as good as pelligrini/Rodgers/wenger/mourinho?
2)Why do u believe next season will be any different
3)Reason has to apply to moyes ie not a generic excuse you can use to defend any manager.
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Questions like that don't actually apply in any rational conversation about football so try and think up better questions.
whose biggest accolade is probably the Manager of the month award?
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^^^^
This is the kind of fan I have to debate with.
Actually he was the manager of the year winner 3 times and steadied the ship at Everton and got them in decent positions every year with a pretty poor transfer budget.
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing.
"You really don't understand that Rooney and RVP don't deserve to be dropped. Those 2 guys always score and get assists when they play."
Yes you are right but can you justify why he persists with Valencia and Fellaini who have nothing to offer?
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
The difference is the manager. He has them believing they can match anyone in a proper football match on their day. Where as before they battled.
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This is precisely the issue I have with Moyes, his rather defensive and by extension at times defeatist mentality.
The fact that he sets up his team to counter opposition teams more often than not is very well established. Imagine our players after having years of success being told that we will go out to negate the strength of say Newcastle.
This is why I think he would find it difficult to transition to a more attacking mindset and style in sync with Utd's stature and history.
Yes you are right but can you justify why he persists with Valencia and Fellaini who have nothing to offer?
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Fellaini is finding his feet and believe it or not, has got talent. Or else that shitt Belgian national side don't have a clue.
And Valencia hasn't really got that much competition.
Nani is nearly always injured. Young is just as bad. Adnan can't play every week for obvious reasons.
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 1 minute ago
whose biggest accolade is probably the Manager of the month award?
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^^^^
This is the kind of fan I have to debate with.
Actually he was the manager of the year winner 3 times and steadied the ship at Everton and got them in decent positions every year with a pretty poor transfer budget.
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing.
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OK, hands up for that one. My point is that Moyes is no where near to the top managers. Apart from his longevity, he does not compare to and good manager currently in the game. You would agree that the best teams have the best players and the best managers.
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing
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Not always he didn't. Especially in his latter years.
The Pogba farce
The Bebe fiasco.
Rock of gibraltar / Glazer fiasco
"I bought Ashley Young as Ryan Giggs's long term successor"
Buying Zaha even though we now know he knew he was going to retire.
The Rooney comments.
I could go on and on and on.
Fergie got an awful lot wrong towards the end sadly.
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 3 minutes ago
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing.
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SAF is a very good manager but he also got things wrong. There are various signings which he made, especially in recent years which are pretty average in my opinion.
SAF however, could get the best out of even average players and that was his strength and not necessarily signing the right players.
Furthermore, it is an established fact that managers while hiring people try to go for people who are similar to them...and that is not necessarily the best approach for recruiting people. That is why you have an HR department who tries to screen out the obvious misfits (which didn't happen in our case).
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes you are right but can you justify why he persists with Valencia and Fellaini who have nothing to offer?
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Fellaini is finding his feet and believe it or not, has got talent. Or else that shitt Belgian national side don't have a clue.
And Valencia hasn't really got that much competition.
Nani is nearly always injured. Young is just as bad. Adnan can't play every week for obvious reasons.
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If our wide men are injured or terrible does it make sense to persists with a system that makes use of them. The whole world could see that. If Valencia and Young put in performances like this for Pep or Jose or Pellergini or Klopp or Van Gaal etc, do you think they will be on the pitch?
You say Fellaini has got talent(s), please do us a favour and mentioned them. I want to give every player a chance especially if they are young and a just new to the league. Fellaini doesn't fit into those categories. So what makes him exceptional, Robb?
Fellaini is certainly better than what we've seen.
He is a very good passer of the ball, gets up and down the pitch and makes interceptions as well as gets forward and causes trouble in the opposition area.
he is usually very good at winning headers as well.
He hasn't shown that as of late and I can only imagine he's finding the move hard. Maybe he'll ever find form or maybe he'll click one day and be excellent. Time will tell on that one.
I just think writing player or manager off so soon is a bit unfair.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Dichinero17 (U10875)
posted 2 minutes ago
If today does not show that Martinez is a superior manager then we need to stop playing FM. Who would have thought of playing a giant like Lukaku on the wing and bring in Naismith centrally would have a devastating effect. This is easily the best tactical decision of the season in the league.
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Thought I was the only one who noticed this. Luka rinsed the arsenal lb a new one. Wenger did not have an answer for it. There was no answer.
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Here is US, tv hosts gave MotM to Martinez for his tactics.
#Robb
Maybe we shouldn't be knocking Fellaini this early but do you really think he was the sort of midfield player we needed?
Carrick was doing the interception bit quite well and also kept possession. We needed a more agile box to box midfielder who can drive us forward and instead we get Fellaini who doesn't add much value.
Fellaini looked better at Everton while playing in a #10 type role where they could launch long balls at him and he could do the 'battering ram' role but that is not what we can have him doing at Utd.
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 3 seconds ago
Fellaini is certainly better than what we've seen.
He is a very good passer of the ball, gets up and down the pitch and makes interceptions as well as gets forward and causes trouble in the opposition area.
he is usually very good at winning headers as well.
He hasn't shown that as of late and I can only imagine he's finding the move hard. Maybe he'll ever find form or maybe he'll click one day and be excellent. Time will tell on that one.
I just think writing player or manager off so soon is a bit unfair.
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From what we've seen this season, he can't pass, can't keep possession, can't hold up a ball, can't dribble, can't run, can't tackle, can't cover or mark, can't track, can't win aeriel duels but he sure can give elbows. I willing to believe he can do better but some of the things he does are just mind boggling. My argument is that he may not be a world beater but as a 26 year international who has had 6 years in the premier league, some of the things he has done this season has been way too unacceptable. It is fair to say that Gibbo was a much better than Fellaini this season. Do I want him to come good, I have no choice.
As for Moyes, he is probably a good manager but not good enough for United, if he was a player his ratings this season would be between 3-5 most games. 3-5 is not United quality,
Don't some of you get tired of moaning?
We won 4-0 in a great display.
Yet the most active topic of the day is, of course, full of people slagging off the manager and some of our players.
Amazing.
Utopian
Fellaini alone isn't what we need but i'd far rather him than Cleverley and if we get a top CM or two this summer our squad of CM's will look pretty good.
What would look better....?
2013/2014 - Carrick, Fellaini, Cleverley, Fletcher
or 2014/2015 - Top CM1, Top CM2, Fellaini, Carrick
?
comment by Utopian (U18745)
posted 1 minute ago
#Robb
Maybe we shouldn't be knocking Fellaini this early but do you really think he was the sort of midfield player we needed?
Carrick was doing the interception bit quite well and also kept possession. We needed a more agile box to box midfielder who can drive us forward and instead we get Fellaini who doesn't add much value.
Fellaini looked better at Everton while playing in a #10 type role where they could launch long balls at him and he could do the 'battering ram' role but that is not what we can have him doing at Utd.
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Good point. His type is not needed in our squad. Even the steel we have lack, he does not bring. We were so fluid without him when he went off.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin's scared pet d... (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't some of you get tired of moaning?
We won 4-0 in a great display.
Yet the most active topic of the day is, of course, full of people slagging off the manager and some of our players.
Amazing.
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JI. Roberto Di Matteo, won the CL for Chelsea, a trophy which Roman craved and even Mourinho couldn't deliver. They did so playing a brand of football you would rather not watch. Next season, they fired Di Matteo because they could see that he could only take them so far.
This is what we are arguing with Moyes here. He might well get us into top four next season and even have results like yesterday but he may not be good enough to make us title contenders.
I don't think Di Matteo lost his job due to the style of football, I think it was more he was out of his depth but abramovichs hands were tied due to him winning the CL.
Sounds like a contradiction I know, but I thought Chelsea made the right decision with that one.
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 6 minutes ago
Utopian
Fellaini alone isn't what we need but i'd far rather him than Cleverley and if we get a top CM or two this summer our squad of CM's will look pretty good.
What would look better....?
2013/2014 - Carrick, Fellaini, Cleverley, Fletcher
or 2014/2015 - Top CM1, Top CM2, Fellaini, Carrick
?
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Yes but don't you think we could have spent that 27m we shelled out on Fellaini on a player who could immediately improve us? One of David's strong points is that he gets good value for his signings. Is that what happened here?
Some of the fans think that we are suddenly minted and the debt crisis of 3-4 years never happened. We need to spend big but do so prudently as our finances are not as sound (Yet) as some might like to believe.
What is strange is that people who say Moyes wont win owt/much because of his track record also hold Martinez and Rodgers in very high regard.
Is an Carling/FA cup win really the difference between a manager that can change and improve and one that has zero chance of changing or evolving?
Really?
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posted on 6/4/14
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 8 seconds ago
Robb mate,
Do you really see Moyes toppling City, Liverpool and Chelsea within the next 3 years after spending £200m?
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Yes, of course. And not even with that much money.
You don't seem to understand just how much better we'll be when Moyes sorts out our defence. And I bet people will suddenly translate that as he'll be making us a defensive side which isn't the case.
It just means that with a solid defence and players like Evra and Vidic phased out it'll allow the front players to do their thing without silly defensive errors undoing all their hard work.
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That's because you think our problem is our defence. Its much more than that. A very good manager gets the best out of players. Moyes has failed to do that. Where has the Rio and Vidic of the past been before the Bayern game? Martinez has made the likes of Distin and Barry shine this season. Those two would sadly walk into our with ease. The change has to come from the manager. Is it any coincidence that we play our best football with results when we don't play the Moyes way. And manager would be drooling at the prospect of having the likes of Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj in their ranks but our doesn't know what to do with them.
posted on 6/4/14
Simple question for Robbie
1) Is moyes atm shown anything to suggest he is as good as pelligrini/Rodgers/wenger/mourinho?
2)Why do u believe next season will be any different
3)Reason has to apply to moyes ie not a generic excuse you can use to defend any manager.
posted on 6/4/14
Where has the Rio and Vidic of the past been before the Bayern game
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That kind of game was tailor made for a couple of old warhorses like them. But they'd both be very poor against teams we had to attack so don't attach too much meaning to that performance in context.
"And manager would be drooling at the prospect of having the likes of Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj in their ranks but our doesn't know what to do with them"
Except he's shown in recent weeks that he does.
You really don't understand that Rooney and RVP don't deserve to be dropped. Those 2 guys always score and get assists when they play.
I agree that one should move on and the likes of Mata, Kagawa and Adnan should play all the time but it's not as easy as dropping one of the big two this season when they get goals.
Martinez would have exactly the same problems if he took over a squad where there were many top players fighting for a few places.
posted on 6/4/14
Everton had the young lad Stones and Distin at CB today with Jagielka out injured. And I don't rate Jagielka all that highly anyway. He's really slow and awkward on the ball.
It's a myth their defence is amazing. It just isn't.
Okay their fullbacks are pretty good, I'll give you that. Especially Baines.
I don't think their is an awful lot in it between Coleman and Rafael personally. Coleman is having a better season this year but that's true of many of their players also.
The difference is the manager. He has them believing they can match anyone in a proper football match on their day. Where as before they battled.
posted on 6/4/14
Isn't it so funny how United fans are good at bashing opposition managers like Mourinho, Benitez, Mancini who are proven winners domestically and continentally and yet we protect an average manager whose biggest accolade is probably the Manager of the month award?
posted on 6/4/14
comment by the GINGER PRINCE'S apprentice (U13920)
posted 3 minutes ago
Simple question for Robbie
1) Is moyes atm shown anything to suggest he is as good as pelligrini/Rodgers/wenger/mourinho?
2)Why do u believe next season will be any different
3)Reason has to apply to moyes ie not a generic excuse you can use to defend any manager.
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Questions like that don't actually apply in any rational conversation about football so try and think up better questions.
posted on 6/4/14
whose biggest accolade is probably the Manager of the month award?
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^^^^
This is the kind of fan I have to debate with.
Actually he was the manager of the year winner 3 times and steadied the ship at Everton and got them in decent positions every year with a pretty poor transfer budget.
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing.
posted on 6/4/14
"You really don't understand that Rooney and RVP don't deserve to be dropped. Those 2 guys always score and get assists when they play."
Yes you are right but can you justify why he persists with Valencia and Fellaini who have nothing to offer?
posted on 6/4/14
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
The difference is the manager. He has them believing they can match anyone in a proper football match on their day. Where as before they battled.
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This is precisely the issue I have with Moyes, his rather defensive and by extension at times defeatist mentality.
The fact that he sets up his team to counter opposition teams more often than not is very well established. Imagine our players after having years of success being told that we will go out to negate the strength of say Newcastle.
This is why I think he would find it difficult to transition to a more attacking mindset and style in sync with Utd's stature and history.
posted on 6/4/14
Yes you are right but can you justify why he persists with Valencia and Fellaini who have nothing to offer?
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Fellaini is finding his feet and believe it or not, has got talent. Or else that shitt Belgian national side don't have a clue.
And Valencia hasn't really got that much competition.
Nani is nearly always injured. Young is just as bad. Adnan can't play every week for obvious reasons.
posted on 6/4/14
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 1 minute ago
whose biggest accolade is probably the Manager of the month award?
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^^^^
This is the kind of fan I have to debate with.
Actually he was the manager of the year winner 3 times and steadied the ship at Everton and got them in decent positions every year with a pretty poor transfer budget.
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing.
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OK, hands up for that one. My point is that Moyes is no where near to the top managers. Apart from his longevity, he does not compare to and good manager currently in the game. You would agree that the best teams have the best players and the best managers.
posted on 6/4/14
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing
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Not always he didn't. Especially in his latter years.
The Pogba farce
The Bebe fiasco.
Rock of gibraltar / Glazer fiasco
"I bought Ashley Young as Ryan Giggs's long term successor"
Buying Zaha even though we now know he knew he was going to retire.
The Rooney comments.
I could go on and on and on.
Fergie got an awful lot wrong towards the end sadly.
posted on 6/4/14
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 3 minutes ago
SAF picked him and believe it or not, SAF knows what he's doing.
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SAF is a very good manager but he also got things wrong. There are various signings which he made, especially in recent years which are pretty average in my opinion.
SAF however, could get the best out of even average players and that was his strength and not necessarily signing the right players.
Furthermore, it is an established fact that managers while hiring people try to go for people who are similar to them...and that is not necessarily the best approach for recruiting people. That is why you have an HR department who tries to screen out the obvious misfits (which didn't happen in our case).
posted on 6/4/14
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes you are right but can you justify why he persists with Valencia and Fellaini who have nothing to offer?
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Fellaini is finding his feet and believe it or not, has got talent. Or else that shitt Belgian national side don't have a clue.
And Valencia hasn't really got that much competition.
Nani is nearly always injured. Young is just as bad. Adnan can't play every week for obvious reasons.
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If our wide men are injured or terrible does it make sense to persists with a system that makes use of them. The whole world could see that. If Valencia and Young put in performances like this for Pep or Jose or Pellergini or Klopp or Van Gaal etc, do you think they will be on the pitch?
You say Fellaini has got talent(s), please do us a favour and mentioned them. I want to give every player a chance especially if they are young and a just new to the league. Fellaini doesn't fit into those categories. So what makes him exceptional, Robb?
posted on 6/4/14
Fellaini is certainly better than what we've seen.
He is a very good passer of the ball, gets up and down the pitch and makes interceptions as well as gets forward and causes trouble in the opposition area.
he is usually very good at winning headers as well.
He hasn't shown that as of late and I can only imagine he's finding the move hard. Maybe he'll ever find form or maybe he'll click one day and be excellent. Time will tell on that one.
I just think writing player or manager off so soon is a bit unfair.
posted on 6/4/14
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Dichinero17 (U10875)
posted 2 minutes ago
If today does not show that Martinez is a superior manager then we need to stop playing FM. Who would have thought of playing a giant like Lukaku on the wing and bring in Naismith centrally would have a devastating effect. This is easily the best tactical decision of the season in the league.
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Thought I was the only one who noticed this. Luka rinsed the arsenal lb a new one. Wenger did not have an answer for it. There was no answer.
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Here is US, tv hosts gave MotM to Martinez for his tactics.
posted on 6/4/14
#Robb
Maybe we shouldn't be knocking Fellaini this early but do you really think he was the sort of midfield player we needed?
Carrick was doing the interception bit quite well and also kept possession. We needed a more agile box to box midfielder who can drive us forward and instead we get Fellaini who doesn't add much value.
Fellaini looked better at Everton while playing in a #10 type role where they could launch long balls at him and he could do the 'battering ram' role but that is not what we can have him doing at Utd.
posted on 6/4/14
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 3 seconds ago
Fellaini is certainly better than what we've seen.
He is a very good passer of the ball, gets up and down the pitch and makes interceptions as well as gets forward and causes trouble in the opposition area.
he is usually very good at winning headers as well.
He hasn't shown that as of late and I can only imagine he's finding the move hard. Maybe he'll ever find form or maybe he'll click one day and be excellent. Time will tell on that one.
I just think writing player or manager off so soon is a bit unfair.
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From what we've seen this season, he can't pass, can't keep possession, can't hold up a ball, can't dribble, can't run, can't tackle, can't cover or mark, can't track, can't win aeriel duels but he sure can give elbows. I willing to believe he can do better but some of the things he does are just mind boggling. My argument is that he may not be a world beater but as a 26 year international who has had 6 years in the premier league, some of the things he has done this season has been way too unacceptable. It is fair to say that Gibbo was a much better than Fellaini this season. Do I want him to come good, I have no choice.
As for Moyes, he is probably a good manager but not good enough for United, if he was a player his ratings this season would be between 3-5 most games. 3-5 is not United quality,
posted on 6/4/14
Don't some of you get tired of moaning?
We won 4-0 in a great display.
Yet the most active topic of the day is, of course, full of people slagging off the manager and some of our players.
Amazing.
posted on 6/4/14
Utopian
Fellaini alone isn't what we need but i'd far rather him than Cleverley and if we get a top CM or two this summer our squad of CM's will look pretty good.
What would look better....?
2013/2014 - Carrick, Fellaini, Cleverley, Fletcher
or 2014/2015 - Top CM1, Top CM2, Fellaini, Carrick
?
posted on 6/4/14
comment by Utopian (U18745)
posted 1 minute ago
#Robb
Maybe we shouldn't be knocking Fellaini this early but do you really think he was the sort of midfield player we needed?
Carrick was doing the interception bit quite well and also kept possession. We needed a more agile box to box midfielder who can drive us forward and instead we get Fellaini who doesn't add much value.
Fellaini looked better at Everton while playing in a #10 type role where they could launch long balls at him and he could do the 'battering ram' role but that is not what we can have him doing at Utd.
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Good point. His type is not needed in our squad. Even the steel we have lack, he does not bring. We were so fluid without him when he went off.
posted on 6/4/14
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin's scared pet d... (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't some of you get tired of moaning?
We won 4-0 in a great display.
Yet the most active topic of the day is, of course, full of people slagging off the manager and some of our players.
Amazing.
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JI. Roberto Di Matteo, won the CL for Chelsea, a trophy which Roman craved and even Mourinho couldn't deliver. They did so playing a brand of football you would rather not watch. Next season, they fired Di Matteo because they could see that he could only take them so far.
This is what we are arguing with Moyes here. He might well get us into top four next season and even have results like yesterday but he may not be good enough to make us title contenders.
posted on 6/4/14
I don't think Di Matteo lost his job due to the style of football, I think it was more he was out of his depth but abramovichs hands were tied due to him winning the CL.
Sounds like a contradiction I know, but I thought Chelsea made the right decision with that one.
posted on 6/4/14
comment by #Robb (U19350)
posted 6 minutes ago
Utopian
Fellaini alone isn't what we need but i'd far rather him than Cleverley and if we get a top CM or two this summer our squad of CM's will look pretty good.
What would look better....?
2013/2014 - Carrick, Fellaini, Cleverley, Fletcher
or 2014/2015 - Top CM1, Top CM2, Fellaini, Carrick
?
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Yes but don't you think we could have spent that 27m we shelled out on Fellaini on a player who could immediately improve us? One of David's strong points is that he gets good value for his signings. Is that what happened here?
Some of the fans think that we are suddenly minted and the debt crisis of 3-4 years never happened. We need to spend big but do so prudently as our finances are not as sound (Yet) as some might like to believe.
posted on 6/4/14
What is strange is that people who say Moyes wont win owt/much because of his track record also hold Martinez and Rodgers in very high regard.
Is an Carling/FA cup win really the difference between a manager that can change and improve and one that has zero chance of changing or evolving?
Really?
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