Rio has to go. I'm on the fence with Evra. He could mentor Shaw if we sign him...

Rio
Giggs (playing wise)
Young
Valencia
Ando
Evra

These are the players I can see leaving indefinitely once a new manager comes in.

So you use an example that lead to barely any success?

Would rather not follow this blueprint thanks.

Absolute rubbish. The way people talk about ferdinand here is embarrassing. One of the finest defender to play for this club. Loyalty is something this world needs.

OP... I agree. Thats why if we cant get Klopp I think LVG is best for the job. He prefers team effort and isnt afraid to drop big players. Hope that most senior players go to be honest! They have been great servants but it is also preventing the club from getting class replacements. In other words we are being limited by them currently.

MARLO - If winning the champions league is hardly any success..? I'm not praising all of Rafa's decisions, hardly, but in this regard he was sppot on.

scholayScholes - Where was Rio's loyalty to his manager when he started using his twitter account to undermine Moyes?! x

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Absolute rubbish. The way people talk about ferdinand here is embarrassing. One of the finest defender to play for this club. Loyalty is something this world needs.
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Ferdinand and loyalty

Ferdinand is out of contract soon and there is only 3 games left.

Get rid of him he will be gone in a month so why the tough talk of getting rid of him.

I wouldn't want Shaw to learn from Evra.

If it was the Evra of 4 years ago then yes but not now.

Rio was a revolutionist like chez Guevara. Without him we would probably still have moyes.

comment by Faranjiniho - eat, sleep, cross, repeat (U5318)
posted 30 seconds ago
Rio was a revolutionist like chez Guevara. Without him we would probably still have moyes.
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Spot on..

Viva la Rio.

OP is totally correct.
BBC reporting that senior players are unhappy with LVG's strict approach.

They need a strict manager, Moyes was slated for not being a strong enough character, those (let's call a spade a spade) children that wear the shirt, need keeping in line.

What players did rafa boot out exactly?
Owen left because he outgrew you as a club. Who else?

nonsense, why is everyone blaming rio for the departure of moyes? how often was he played to contribute to the crap that was being displayed on the pitch, the manager was incompetent period, how is posting about a song undermining the technical know how of another human being if that person is competent at all, and as for the bbc story nothing could be more stupid, LVG has not been appointed yet and senior players are talking about him? to who?
rio has done more for this club than the damn moyes fella and he gets stick and moyes gets sympathy from the same people who were asking us to be loyal to moyes, just silly

You really think the squad of players are note reading/watching the rumours about Moyes' replacement?
They're football fans, they'll discuss the merits of managers as much as anybody else nevermind when it will be their new boss.