You played for a 0-0 in the first half, if you scored by chance...well brilliant but that was pretty obviously not the objective, frustrating us and keeping a clean sheet was the objective.
We'll never know what his plan for the second half was - but considering a draw would be no better than a loss, I'm guessing he would have started trying to actually score.
The goal was a freak occurance, Ba wasn't pressuring Gerrard at all, he just reacted quickly when he saw the mistake.
Make it in to an article if you want Mr.C, all came off the top of my head, but I'm actually quite proud of it. Came across really well. Woo!
Regarding the Liverpool match, considering the way we set up and played in the majority of the first half, do you think Mourinho was fully playing for a draw?
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No, and I totally disagree that Mourinho went for a draw. Everyone on the planet knows that Liverpool go for a fast start.
Mourinho went for a win but with patience. He knows that patience is a virtue, okay the goal came with a bow and gift tag but I firmly believe Mourinho was going for the win. And would have pushed for one if it stayed 0-0..
It's everybody else's job to stop him, not Jose's to change because people don't like it.
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Nail on the head.
Number 4 you should put that into an article yourself mate. Very good post
The Number 4...
I've accepted (in a way) our style of football now. At the start of the season I was hoping that Jose would try and get us playing a bit more expansive but I've realised that's just not him. He's a pragmatic manager who plays the percentages. Possibly the best out there at doing that hence why he's won so much.
The grit and determination he's instilled in our team has lasted nearly a decade and I can't be more grateful for that.
Agree red in the head. Been saying for a while now to beat Liverpool you need to stop them coming out of the blocks and putting two past you in ten mins before you can ask questions of them.
Jose did this perfectly. End of the day you stand a much better chance of winning you don't concede a goal, I still think he would have been playing for a win
Honestly Mr.C, Chelsea aren't my club. It's just a passing opinion of mine. You or any other Chelsea supporter are more than welcome to use parts of what I've posted in your own article though if you want to.
comment by The Number 4 Shirt. (U19487)
posted 22 minutes ago
Jose has never thought you were out of the race. Not for a second. He knew what he was doing when he said you were the little horse ect. earlier in the season. It's all set up to make his job easier and create the "us vs the world" mentality that all the great managers have used.
Under Jose, you will be successful, and you will win things. He may at some point even turn you into the best football team in the world for a period. He is a truly great football manager, and he has a very clear "Jose Mourinho" type of football. But also under Jose you will never play the way that you would expect the best team in the world to play. He is defensive, cautious and prefers 1-0 to 5-4.
There is NOTHING wrong with that, in so far as the glory is in the victory, and history remembers the victors. But you won't ever see Chelsea fly out, dominate and demolish a top side with fantastic football and flair players like Bayern did last season, Manchester United did under Ferguson at times, like the Real Madrid and Liverpool teams of the past did or the Dutch pass masters and at times Guardiola's Barcelona. You will beat top sides with resilience, strength, discipline capitalization, because that is Mourinho's way, and what makes him a great. Everyone has their own path to glory and Jose's is through defense and impenetrability > attack and style. Many will call him cowardly and such for his methods, but that is born from their own frustrations of not having an answer to it.
To sum up, Jose is a winner. He will always set out to win, whatever the situation, whatever the game, whatever the competition. He will never give up until the last breath, but he will never be openly brave or committal, on or off the field. A cracking manager, with a style and method that you should embrace as your own, because by the end of his time with Chelsea, he will have given you a footballing identity, that he, who will go down as a footballing great, has defined himself with. In many ways, he is already your Alex Ferguson, because his way is the Chelsea way, just like Sir Alex with United. All he has to add is sustained success over a long period with the foundations he has laid. It's everybody else's job to stop him, not Jose's to change because people don't like it.
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If he turns us into one of the fastest counter attacking teams I have ever seen in the game, like he did to Madrid when they broke the league goals record, that will be more than good enough.
This is exactly what I think he is gearing us up to be like.
Look at todays game, this is how Madrid were playing under Mourinho for the majority of their games. Ferocious counter attacking football. How people do not find this entertaining is beyond me.
I think everyone on earth find Real Madrid's football enormously entertaining. Except Barca fans. And a fair few Bayern munich fans today.
Jose lost the dressing room when he benched Casillas.
The snakes gathered together and went upstairs to the Board.
Dressing room was lost the minute he needed Essien FFS !
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posted on 29/4/14
You played for a 0-0 in the first half, if you scored by chance...well brilliant but that was pretty obviously not the objective, frustrating us and keeping a clean sheet was the objective.
We'll never know what his plan for the second half was - but considering a draw would be no better than a loss, I'm guessing he would have started trying to actually score.
The goal was a freak occurance, Ba wasn't pressuring Gerrard at all, he just reacted quickly when he saw the mistake.
posted on 29/4/14
Make it in to an article if you want Mr.C, all came off the top of my head, but I'm actually quite proud of it. Came across really well. Woo!
posted on 29/4/14
Regarding the Liverpool match, considering the way we set up and played in the majority of the first half, do you think Mourinho was fully playing for a draw?
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No, and I totally disagree that Mourinho went for a draw. Everyone on the planet knows that Liverpool go for a fast start.
Mourinho went for a win but with patience. He knows that patience is a virtue, okay the goal came with a bow and gift tag but I firmly believe Mourinho was going for the win. And would have pushed for one if it stayed 0-0..
posted on 29/4/14
It's everybody else's job to stop him, not Jose's to change because people don't like it.
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Nail on the head.
posted on 29/4/14
Number 4 you should put that into an article yourself mate. Very good post
posted on 29/4/14
The Number 4...
I've accepted (in a way) our style of football now. At the start of the season I was hoping that Jose would try and get us playing a bit more expansive but I've realised that's just not him. He's a pragmatic manager who plays the percentages. Possibly the best out there at doing that hence why he's won so much.
The grit and determination he's instilled in our team has lasted nearly a decade and I can't be more grateful for that.
posted on 29/4/14
Agree red in the head. Been saying for a while now to beat Liverpool you need to stop them coming out of the blocks and putting two past you in ten mins before you can ask questions of them.
Jose did this perfectly. End of the day you stand a much better chance of winning you don't concede a goal, I still think he would have been playing for a win
posted on 29/4/14
STAND UP FOR NUMBER 4
posted on 29/4/14
Honestly Mr.C, Chelsea aren't my club. It's just a passing opinion of mine. You or any other Chelsea supporter are more than welcome to use parts of what I've posted in your own article though if you want to.
posted on 29/4/14
comment by The Number 4 Shirt. (U19487)
posted 22 minutes ago
Jose has never thought you were out of the race. Not for a second. He knew what he was doing when he said you were the little horse ect. earlier in the season. It's all set up to make his job easier and create the "us vs the world" mentality that all the great managers have used.
Under Jose, you will be successful, and you will win things. He may at some point even turn you into the best football team in the world for a period. He is a truly great football manager, and he has a very clear "Jose Mourinho" type of football. But also under Jose you will never play the way that you would expect the best team in the world to play. He is defensive, cautious and prefers 1-0 to 5-4.
There is NOTHING wrong with that, in so far as the glory is in the victory, and history remembers the victors. But you won't ever see Chelsea fly out, dominate and demolish a top side with fantastic football and flair players like Bayern did last season, Manchester United did under Ferguson at times, like the Real Madrid and Liverpool teams of the past did or the Dutch pass masters and at times Guardiola's Barcelona. You will beat top sides with resilience, strength, discipline capitalization, because that is Mourinho's way, and what makes him a great. Everyone has their own path to glory and Jose's is through defense and impenetrability > attack and style. Many will call him cowardly and such for his methods, but that is born from their own frustrations of not having an answer to it.
To sum up, Jose is a winner. He will always set out to win, whatever the situation, whatever the game, whatever the competition. He will never give up until the last breath, but he will never be openly brave or committal, on or off the field. A cracking manager, with a style and method that you should embrace as your own, because by the end of his time with Chelsea, he will have given you a footballing identity, that he, who will go down as a footballing great, has defined himself with. In many ways, he is already your Alex Ferguson, because his way is the Chelsea way, just like Sir Alex with United. All he has to add is sustained success over a long period with the foundations he has laid. It's everybody else's job to stop him, not Jose's to change because people don't like it.
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If he turns us into one of the fastest counter attacking teams I have ever seen in the game, like he did to Madrid when they broke the league goals record, that will be more than good enough.
This is exactly what I think he is gearing us up to be like.
posted on 29/4/14
Look at todays game, this is how Madrid were playing under Mourinho for the majority of their games. Ferocious counter attacking football. How people do not find this entertaining is beyond me.
posted on 29/4/14
I think everyone on earth find Real Madrid's football enormously entertaining. Except Barca fans. And a fair few Bayern munich fans today.
posted on 29/4/14
Jose lost the dressing room when he benched Casillas.
The snakes gathered together and went upstairs to the Board.
Dressing room was lost the minute he needed Essien FFS !
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