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Arsene's New Model

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posted on 11/7/14

we do what we want, biaaaatch

comment by Ocelots (U3893)

posted on 11/7/14

Since all the money we're spending currently has been generated within the club, and lots of it from the savings we made by investing in young players, that criticism still stands. It's our own money we're spending rather than that of some oligarch or oil tycoon.

posted on 11/7/14

It was a business model forced on the club due to financial constraints.

Remaining self-sufficient, acquiring players when finances dictate, to lavishing nearly a billion pounds of a third party’s wealth is not really comparable.

posted on 11/7/14

Remaining self-sufficient, acquiring players when finances dictate, to lavishing nearly a billion pounds of a third party’s wealth is not really comparable.

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This.

posted on 11/7/14

Does this mean that Arsenal fans can no longer accuse City or Chelsea of buying the league?
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We havent won the league.

comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted on 11/7/14

Disrespectful to Arsenal to compare their spending to City's

posted on 11/7/14

i don't think its so much "new model", Wenger always claimed that he would add "super quality" to the team, but the core of the team would b young players developed by the club, very similar to how Barca run there club.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 11/7/14

So spending £42m on Ozil and £35m on Sanchez does not amount to buying the league just because you "earn" the money.
This is a wonderful ideology and I kind of like it.

posted on 11/7/14

Yup that ^

posted on 11/7/14

The ironic thing is that it’s because clubs like City and Chelsea are spending crazy money ‘buying success’ that Arsenal have had to spend big to keep up with them. If Chelsea and City had the same resource as say Liverpool or Spurs have had the last few years, Arsenal would have been serious challengers for the title

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 11/7/14

comment by Ruiney - We go again (U1005)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespectful to Arsenal to compare their spending to City's
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Where do we draw the line in terms of spending?
There have always been and will continue to be rich and poor clubs. You can't expect all clubs to spend the same amount of money every season unless you want to introduce Socialism into football.
However, regardless of the source of funding, Arsenal are now trying to buy the league.
How many academy players are in their starting eleven?

posted on 11/7/14

However, regardless of the source of funding, Arsenal are now trying to buy the league.
How many academy players are in their starting eleven?
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its not so much academy players, its young players bought at (16,17,18), developed in playing the arsenal way. Theo, Ox, Gnabry, Ramsey etc

but to answer the question right now, we have 2 Gibbs and Wilshire

posted on 11/7/14

mancini

While it is easy to pinpoint the biggest two transfers in the club’s history, it does not represent an accurate reflection of the club’s recent spending.

All clubs’ purchase players – that is not in question, nor a problem. It is part and parcel of football.

However to refer to your “buying the league” expression, is there a club in history who have not spent money on strengthening their squad?

However to win the league spending a minute fraction of the resource that Chelsea and City have outlayed IMO would be a fantastic achievement – for any club.

posted on 11/7/14

This is a wonderful ideology and I kind of like it.

Yeah we are proud of our philosophy. It's the Arsenal way.

posted on 11/7/14

I would argue that the old model of buying players young and developing them WAS successful, insofar as it achieved the aim of keeping Arsenal competitive and qualifying for the champions league at a time when there wasn't much money available to spend on transfers.

However, we have now reached a stage when additional money is available and are spending it in order to push on to the next level, where success is measured by winning trophies rather than just competing for them.

posted on 11/7/14

I welcome people, who stand up for their clubs, but if someone cannot tell the difference between where Arsenal's money for players comes from and City's then leave them to it.

comment by JSwheat (U5864)

posted on 11/7/14

I would have agreed with your statement if you had said Arsenal were buying their way into the top four.

I think as Chelsea, Liverpool and Man United will show the stakes are being raised again this year for the title and I fully expect all three to spend over £100 million

posted on 11/7/14

Im sure mancini knows there's a huge difference btw spending money you earned compared to being funded by a sugar daddy.

posted on 11/7/14

Guessed he did. No disrespect to him, but with some, you are never sure.

comment by mancini (U7179)

posted on 11/7/14

comment by GUNNERBEGOOD (U10646)
posted 20 minutes ago
Guessed he did. No disrespect to him, but with some, you are never sure.
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Money is money regardless of where it came from.
But you still need to spend big though to push you guys through the finish line.
United are already blowing everyone out with their spending power too.
Meanwhile, we have been shackled with ffp penalty.
The stakes are really being pushed higher this year.

posted on 11/7/14

mancini

Irrespective of FFP all PL clubs now have to comply with the PL’s spending restraints.

One of the restraints all clubs are now subject to is their year on year wage increase. Currently set at £4m a season.

So assuming a club’s revenue remains fixed, they will be unable to increase player wages by more than £4m a season.

In regard to United they have offloaded a number of big earners (Vidic, Ferdinand etc) and understand will soon announce a new £750m Adidas deal which will undoubtedly assist their ability to add to the squad.

posted on 11/7/14

Does this mean that Arsenal fans can no longer accuse City or Chelsea of buying the league?
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There is no such thing as buying the league. The best performances has still got to be extracted from the players consistently and the squad has still to gel and be managed effectively. People who talk about "buying the league" are either jealous or severely misguided !

posted on 11/7/14

Does this mean that Arsenal fans can no longer accuse City or Chelsea of buying the league?
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Like everyone else, we have been known to spend a bit on a marquee signing. Wiltord and Reyes were club record signings, but the cheaper recruits were still there. Nothing has changed imo. We've managed to pull off Sanchez and we'll still sign 2-3 kids from Lithuania.

posted on 11/7/14

Its much to do with our improving financial situation and safety net we have on our debt. Which is great! ..with Sanchez and Ozil..other top class player in squad we will be more attractive to any player now..much stronger also...Also this should only increase our massive fan base world wide. Things should only get better.
Lets hope we win some silverware this season.

posted on 11/7/14

mancini (U7179) posted 4 hours, 43 minutes ago
So spending £42m on Ozil and £35m on Sanchez does not amount to buying the league just because you "earn" the money.
This is a wonderful ideology and I kind of like it
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How can it amount to buying the leaue if we don't win the league?

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