this clown hamas rejecting a ceasefire as well, wtf is he watching?
Gaza is in trouble, I read an article last night about the IDF sending in more ground troops.
"baby killed by tank"
but yeah, go idf
Keny
See post above. I said the level is different, but annoying neighbours need to be sorted out. You would do the same - unless of course you're happy for you neighbour to fire pea shooters at your windows on a constant basis.
Yes, Israel's reaction is way stronger than the Palastinian's could muster, but they have to do something
And remember that there is a pan-Arab (not just Palastinian) objective to "drive Israel into the sea". They have always had to live with that one.
this clown hamas rejecting a ceasefire as well, wtf is he watching?
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Keny
Eeeerrrrmmmmm. Hamas is an organisation mate. The regime that governs Gaza in fact.
Im no supporter of Israel or the Zionist nutters that keep this thing going but Biton is more than welcome to his opinion no matter how wrong it is.
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yeah its just Israel that keep it going
FFS
Biton's opinion is neither right or wrong either.
keny, you got a link to this footage?
Yes, Israel's reaction is way stronger than the Palastinian's could muster, but they have to do something
===============
I agree, they do have to do something but is the murder of children what they do?
u know western societies generally look at a mission and judge it by how few civilians get hurt, in this case these people look at how many.
as I say, hamas has a lot of blood on his hands.
Dennis,
"the poor innocents in Palestine are the real victims in this as they are being used as a shield by Hamas who kicked off this latest event by kidnapping and executing 3 Israeli teenagers"
When the people of Gaza voted Fatah out and Hamas in they knew EXACTLY what they were getting.
should be these* show, , by hamas I mean khaled meshaal
how many generations of tolerant schooling do you think it would take for peace in the middle east?
And remember that there is a pan-Arab (not just Palastinian) objective to "drive Israel into the sea". They have always had to live with that one.
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Aye AFTER the Zionist nutters tried to force the Arab Palestinians into the desert?
Listen Isreal (Zionists) are the colonial oppressors the Palestinians are the ones being oppressed they have no option other than to resist or give up. What would you do?
Palestinian civilians have a terrific set of options right now, sit and be killed to swim for it.
anyone that brings peace to this region deserves a nobel prize
"the poor innocents in Palestine are the real victims in this as they are being used as a shield by Hamas who kicked off this latest event by kidnapping and executing 3 Israeli teenagers"
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Again with the human sheilds. Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. There is no where for these women and children to hide ffs. Watch some footage on youtube of Israeli airstrikes then ask yourself where you would hide.
The IDF are ruthless, which is understandable given Israel has been invaded by EVERY country that borders it. This dog wont bark if you kick it, it will bite.
Hamas know this (as do Hezbollah in Lebanon). I have sympathy for ordinary Palestinians in Gaza but by voting in Hamas they were voting for a hard line group.
Dennis,
"the poor innocents in Palestine are the real victims in this as they are being used as a shield by Hamas who kicked off this latest event by kidnapping and executing 3 Israeli teenagers"
When the people of Gaza voted Fatah out and Hamas in they knew EXACTLY what they were getting.
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good point, however I don't think everyone of them supports what hamas do
I meant to add aswel, Barry likes his wee digs here and there on certain topics and was doing the same on another thread
what he has to remember is my wife is American, a native of New York, my kids are American aswel and I clearly remember the people of Gaza, not hamas , celebrating, dancing in the streets etc when the footage of 9/11 was emerging
so you can forgive me for having a cynical view that its not all "Israel bad, Palestine good"
I made a point there being a celeb led agenda to promote this theory too, you get plenty of them being very vocal on their pro Palestine/ anti Israel stance yet when Gene Simmons, an Israeli spoke out in support of his own people he got fakin slaughtered for it
same as what Biton is getting now
dal
wouldn't put too much faith in diplomacy in this regions
the one I saw which sickened me a bit was israelies taking chairs watch.
what he has to remember is my wife is American, a native of New York, my kids are American aswel and I clearly remember the people of Gaza, not hamas , celebrating, dancing in the streets etc when the footage of 9/11 was emerging
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prob should have been more clearl
it was normal citizens celebrating 9/11 not just hamas supporters
so you can forgive me for having a cynical view that its not all "Israel bad, Palestine good"
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this is where I may differ, I believe in individuals, in this care the actions of Israel against woman and children and imo diabolical, and also toward innocent men.
if it was the other way around I would say the same.
what he has to remember is my wife is American, a native of New York, my kids are American aswel and I clearly remember the people of Gaza, not hamas , celebrating, dancing in the streets etc when the footage of 9/11 was emerging
==========
aye but that never really happened, America bombed their own towers sure...
according to some nutters at least.
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this is where I may differ, I believe in individuals, in this care the actions of Israel against woman and children and imo diabolical, and also toward innocent men.
if it was the other way around I would say the same.
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my point is that no one uttered a peep when 3 Israeli boys were executed a few weeks ago, which has led to this current conflict
its only when Israel takes action that everyone gets outraged
Chu
ive seen the 9/11 truth movement doing a protest in florida, fakin nutters
they were screaming about mossad intelligence gave plenty warnings of a major attack.
curly a fair point
think the death tolls are a bit one sided though are they not, its a bit of a slaughter.
sdf
wasn't chu it was me
you have to question the actions of hamas, Israel and quite clearly going to react, the reaction is getting extreme.
comment by Curly ~ micks a legend (U1103)
posted 1 minute ago
I find it fantastic that everyone is now an expert in the Middle East crisis and can give firm opinions on who is wrong and who is right
Google and Wikipedia have a lot to answer for
I personally don't know enough about it so will just spare my thoughts for the innocents on both sides without blindly supporting one over the other
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Pick up a book then curly chomsky is a good starting point.
I'm actually embarrassed sometimes to be a Celtic fan. These kants who think we are somehow some sort of moral high ground group. We are like flooking see no evil hear no evil at times
We have NO PLACE, NO PLACE whatsoever to comment on a young boy who is Israeli, who served in the IDF and who posted a message of support for his own country.
I can 100% guarantee if I hear any Celtic fan booing Biton I will smack them right in the front tooth
Dal has made some very good points on this aswel might I add
Nir Biton- calls for him to be sacked
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posted on 18/7/14
this clown hamas rejecting a ceasefire as well, wtf is he watching?
Gaza is in trouble, I read an article last night about the IDF sending in more ground troops.
"baby killed by tank"
but yeah, go idf
posted on 18/7/14
Keny
See post above. I said the level is different, but annoying neighbours need to be sorted out. You would do the same - unless of course you're happy for you neighbour to fire pea shooters at your windows on a constant basis.
Yes, Israel's reaction is way stronger than the Palastinian's could muster, but they have to do something
And remember that there is a pan-Arab (not just Palastinian) objective to "drive Israel into the sea". They have always had to live with that one.
posted on 18/7/14
this clown hamas rejecting a ceasefire as well, wtf is he watching?
_______________________________________________
Keny
Eeeerrrrmmmmm. Hamas is an organisation mate. The regime that governs Gaza in fact.
posted on 18/7/14
Im no supporter of Israel or the Zionist nutters that keep this thing going but Biton is more than welcome to his opinion no matter how wrong it is.
--------------------------
yeah its just Israel that keep it going
FFS
Biton's opinion is neither right or wrong either.
posted on 18/7/14
keny, you got a link to this footage?
posted on 18/7/14
Yes, Israel's reaction is way stronger than the Palastinian's could muster, but they have to do something
===============
I agree, they do have to do something but is the murder of children what they do?
u know western societies generally look at a mission and judge it by how few civilians get hurt, in this case these people look at how many.
as I say, hamas has a lot of blood on his hands.
posted on 18/7/14
Dennis,
"the poor innocents in Palestine are the real victims in this as they are being used as a shield by Hamas who kicked off this latest event by kidnapping and executing 3 Israeli teenagers"
When the people of Gaza voted Fatah out and Hamas in they knew EXACTLY what they were getting.
posted on 18/7/14
should be these* show, , by hamas I mean khaled meshaal
posted on 18/7/14
how many generations of tolerant schooling do you think it would take for peace in the middle east?
posted on 18/7/14
And remember that there is a pan-Arab (not just Palastinian) objective to "drive Israel into the sea". They have always had to live with that one.
-------
Aye AFTER the Zionist nutters tried to force the Arab Palestinians into the desert?
Listen Isreal (Zionists) are the colonial oppressors the Palestinians are the ones being oppressed they have no option other than to resist or give up. What would you do?
posted on 18/7/14
Palestinian civilians have a terrific set of options right now, sit and be killed to swim for it.
anyone that brings peace to this region deserves a nobel prize
posted on 18/7/14
"the poor innocents in Palestine are the real victims in this as they are being used as a shield by Hamas who kicked off this latest event by kidnapping and executing 3 Israeli teenagers"
------
Again with the human sheilds. Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. There is no where for these women and children to hide ffs. Watch some footage on youtube of Israeli airstrikes then ask yourself where you would hide.
posted on 18/7/14
The IDF are ruthless, which is understandable given Israel has been invaded by EVERY country that borders it. This dog wont bark if you kick it, it will bite.
Hamas know this (as do Hezbollah in Lebanon). I have sympathy for ordinary Palestinians in Gaza but by voting in Hamas they were voting for a hard line group.
posted on 18/7/14
Dennis,
"the poor innocents in Palestine are the real victims in this as they are being used as a shield by Hamas who kicked off this latest event by kidnapping and executing 3 Israeli teenagers"
When the people of Gaza voted Fatah out and Hamas in they knew EXACTLY what they were getting.
-----------
good point, however I don't think everyone of them supports what hamas do
I meant to add aswel, Barry likes his wee digs here and there on certain topics and was doing the same on another thread
what he has to remember is my wife is American, a native of New York, my kids are American aswel and I clearly remember the people of Gaza, not hamas , celebrating, dancing in the streets etc when the footage of 9/11 was emerging
so you can forgive me for having a cynical view that its not all "Israel bad, Palestine good"
I made a point there being a celeb led agenda to promote this theory too, you get plenty of them being very vocal on their pro Palestine/ anti Israel stance yet when Gene Simmons, an Israeli spoke out in support of his own people he got fakin slaughtered for it
same as what Biton is getting now
posted on 18/7/14
dal
wouldn't put too much faith in diplomacy in this regions
the one I saw which sickened me a bit was israelies taking chairs watch.
posted on 18/7/14
what he has to remember is my wife is American, a native of New York, my kids are American aswel and I clearly remember the people of Gaza, not hamas , celebrating, dancing in the streets etc when the footage of 9/11 was emerging
-------------
prob should have been more clearl
it was normal citizens celebrating 9/11 not just hamas supporters
posted on 18/7/14
so you can forgive me for having a cynical view that its not all "Israel bad, Palestine good"
========
this is where I may differ, I believe in individuals, in this care the actions of Israel against woman and children and imo diabolical, and also toward innocent men.
if it was the other way around I would say the same.
posted on 18/7/14
what he has to remember is my wife is American, a native of New York, my kids are American aswel and I clearly remember the people of Gaza, not hamas , celebrating, dancing in the streets etc when the footage of 9/11 was emerging
==========
aye but that never really happened, America bombed their own towers sure...
according to some nutters at least.
posted on 18/7/14
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posted on 18/7/14
this is where I may differ, I believe in individuals, in this care the actions of Israel against woman and children and imo diabolical, and also toward innocent men.
if it was the other way around I would say the same.
-------------------------
my point is that no one uttered a peep when 3 Israeli boys were executed a few weeks ago, which has led to this current conflict
its only when Israel takes action that everyone gets outraged
Chu
ive seen the 9/11 truth movement doing a protest in florida, fakin nutters
they were screaming about mossad intelligence gave plenty warnings of a major attack.
posted on 18/7/14
curly a fair point
think the death tolls are a bit one sided though are they not, its a bit of a slaughter.
posted on 18/7/14
sdf
wasn't chu it was me
you have to question the actions of hamas, Israel and quite clearly going to react, the reaction is getting extreme.
posted on 18/7/14
comment by Curly ~ micks a legend (U1103)
posted 1 minute ago
I find it fantastic that everyone is now an expert in the Middle East crisis and can give firm opinions on who is wrong and who is right
Google and Wikipedia have a lot to answer for
I personally don't know enough about it so will just spare my thoughts for the innocents on both sides without blindly supporting one over the other
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pick up a book then curly chomsky is a good starting point.
posted on 18/7/14
I'm actually embarrassed sometimes to be a Celtic fan. These kants who think we are somehow some sort of moral high ground group. We are like flooking see no evil hear no evil at times
We have NO PLACE, NO PLACE whatsoever to comment on a young boy who is Israeli, who served in the IDF and who posted a message of support for his own country.
I can 100% guarantee if I hear any Celtic fan booing Biton I will smack them right in the front tooth
posted on 18/7/14
Dal has made some very good points on this aswel might I add
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