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In reference to your replies to my posts earlier, you have clearly demonstrated that you have undertaken no research into the matter whatsoever, and have little understanding of the topic you wish to debate.
Whether all of the Football Supporters’ Federation's (FSF) objectives are realised remains to be seen but without the assistance from fans (assuming that includes you) nothing is ever going to change.
If it makes you feel better to ignore the problem then so be it.
"Well, my understanding of your original point was that the marchers were being selfish, and that now they “expect people to back” them"
That was more about the poster on this thread in particular who was making it personal, calling people who don't back him and his march as not 'real fans' - it's a term guaranteed to get people's backs up, so I'm surprised he was, erm, surprised.
" ......not so much that it was futile."
Both. I do feel it's futile, but that's speaking as someone who's been on marches in the past to no real effect - I'm old and cynical.
"Well no, because if it got to that point the prices would drop again."
Exactly why I said "it would never happen". Basic market forces mean the prices would never rise to a point where the stadium is empty, obviously. But they have been rising way ahead of inflation for a couple of decade now, and it irks me that the particularly vocal , and aggressive, poster on this thread is so enthusiastic now it effect him/his family, but maybe not so much when it effected others before him. TBH, This isn't just about him/this campaign, its a general gripe about people not giving a shít about other people that may have got out of hand.
"I’m not sure marching is high on my list of priorities , but football in this country has been a good product, and I think it would be a shame if it devoured itself, so I’m in favour of fans making a stand on it if they feel that way."
Sounds to me that we largely agree on the whole thing.
"I think this is a very passive country, by and large, and they have a stake in the product. If they don't try, they won't get, and fans in Germany and Spain will continue to get a better deal."
Couldn't agree more.
"For myself, I’m thinking of maybe moving abroad again anyway"
Ditto.
Fans protest over ticket prices
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posted on 13/8/14
Taggs
In reference to your replies to my posts earlier, you have clearly demonstrated that you have undertaken no research into the matter whatsoever, and have little understanding of the topic you wish to debate.
Whether all of the Football Supporters’ Federation's (FSF) objectives are realised remains to be seen but without the assistance from fans (assuming that includes you) nothing is ever going to change.
If it makes you feel better to ignore the problem then so be it.
posted on 14/8/14
"Well, my understanding of your original point was that the marchers were being selfish, and that now they “expect people to back” them"
That was more about the poster on this thread in particular who was making it personal, calling people who don't back him and his march as not 'real fans' - it's a term guaranteed to get people's backs up, so I'm surprised he was, erm, surprised.
" ......not so much that it was futile."
Both. I do feel it's futile, but that's speaking as someone who's been on marches in the past to no real effect - I'm old and cynical.
"Well no, because if it got to that point the prices would drop again."
Exactly why I said "it would never happen". Basic market forces mean the prices would never rise to a point where the stadium is empty, obviously. But they have been rising way ahead of inflation for a couple of decade now, and it irks me that the particularly vocal , and aggressive, poster on this thread is so enthusiastic now it effect him/his family, but maybe not so much when it effected others before him. TBH, This isn't just about him/this campaign, its a general gripe about people not giving a shít about other people that may have got out of hand.
"I’m not sure marching is high on my list of priorities , but football in this country has been a good product, and I think it would be a shame if it devoured itself, so I’m in favour of fans making a stand on it if they feel that way."
Sounds to me that we largely agree on the whole thing.
"I think this is a very passive country, by and large, and they have a stake in the product. If they don't try, they won't get, and fans in Germany and Spain will continue to get a better deal."
Couldn't agree more.
"For myself, I’m thinking of maybe moving abroad again anyway"
Ditto.
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