If a person says that a certain player is overrated it doesn't mean that the discussed player is not good.He is just not as good as some people are making him out to be!Hazard is a bit overrated but still comes into top 15 midfielders playing football right now!

comment by CR7isbetterthanMessi (U18917)
posted 1 minute ago
If a person says that a certain player is overrated it doesn't mean that the discussed player is not good.He is just not as good as some people are making him out to be!Hazard is a bit overrated but still comes into top 15 midfielders playing football right now!
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So many people have been claiming hes overrated recently, hes changed from being overrated to underrated.

Very much like Neymar.

Speaking of overrated, I have never rated Bale. Watched quite a lot of Real last year, and I thought he underperformed compared to his final year with Spurs. I would probably put him in the same bracket as Reus and Hazard. The best wingers out there for me are Di Maria, Sanchez and Robben.

Robben is the best winger I have ever seen in my life and Hazard is miles away from Robben's level but still quite good player.His finishing ability prevents him from being up there with Ronaldo and Messi but his ball retention is amazing and almost second to none!

No, Eden's off the ball is quite frankly absent.
Very much stop-start, conservative.
Needs to start being more relentless and less stop-start.

Using Robben as an example again...finds a way to break defences because he moves at and beyond the opposition like a train(full steam ahead) with or without the ball, utilises explosive abilities to the limit.

Eden, I feel can be just as destructive If he really wanted to be. Has demostrated clinical and ruthless side at times(just not as often as I would like).

Winning goal in CL final against Dortmund, just typified Robben's determination and resilience to the max.

He is a top top player, i don't think he's underrated or overrated, it's just that certain players/manager will always have the limelight, and i think for CFC, it always goes back to Mouriniho.

Nothing to do with Jose, more about the player applying himself to "go the extra mile" on the pitch.
Definitely hasn't reached his ceiling yet.
In fact I'm sure Jose repeatedly encourages him to play to the best of his abilities with freedom offensively but when we have to defend, must do so correctly(whenever necessary).
However, having said that...Matic covers fullback area, which negates the need for Eden to defend often.

When I mentioned Zidane I said I think he will make that level and I think he will. He continues to improve, has the tools and the attitude to match from what I can see. Robben was no real world beater at 23 in terms of end product. Neither was Zidane really and he only hit double figures in the league once in his entire career. People who bang on about stats with midfielders don't really know the game too well in my opinion. Xavi, a man with no huge amount of goals and assists to his name, said of the 95% of people who love football only 2% understand it. Quite.

Hazard can see things others can't and he will make their level in my opinion.

In fact I'm sure Jose repeatedly encourages him to play to the best of his abilities with freedom offensively but when we have to defend, must do so correctly(whenever necessary).
However, having said that...Matic covers fullback area, which negates the need for Eden to defend often.
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Comments which kind of typify why a discussion of whether Hazard is overrated or underrated have arisen. Because of all the potential he possesses, I think we almost expect a time to come when he'll reach the C. Ronaldo level of being good enough to be a luxury player in a Jose Mourinho team (Ronaldo being the only one to date to my knowledge).

I do agree with the Neymar comparisons in terms of how he's perceived in relation to his teenage hype, and how it's coursing him to almost go from overrated to underrated. Both are suffering from inflated expectations as youths

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
I was implying he's closer in ability to a Giggs than to Messi or Ronaldo. He's not close to the ability of those 2. Except you think dribbling is the only "ability" in football.
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I'd say you're wrong. Apart from finishing, he is closer in ability to the three I mentioned. I don't know where the giggs comparison came up.

I will burn his shirt if and when he leaves

soccer?lol.

Neymar has not done too bad, 12 goals in 11 starts this season. His first year in European football was always going to be tough. I'd be happy if Hazard can get a 1 in 2 rate in terms of goal and games played.

The media certainly don't rave about Hazard as much as they could and should.

With the ball at feet there are very few better players in world football.

Even at 20,21,22, 23 Robben had more vigour and conviction to his play, used to tear the width of the pitch to shreads non-stop frequently(when he wasn't on the treatment table).
Dominating and stretching teams to oblivion, even If his stats were unconvincing.
Never casual/nonchalant in approach.
Took it up a few more mighty notches when he left Chelsea.

Heck of a lot more direct than Eden, I would say.

comment by Chelseamf™®© (U1677)
posted 10 minutes ago
Even at 20,21,22, 23 Robben had more vigour and conviction to his play, used to tear the width of the pitch to shreads non-stop frequently(when he wasn't on the treatment table).
Dominating and stretching teams to oblivion, even If his stats were unconvincing.
Never casual/nonchalant in approach.
Took it up a few more mighty notches when he left Chelsea.
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Again I would say both Hazard and Robben have different approaches to the same as each other. When Robben was playing at Chelsea he needed to be direct, because we were a counter attacking team at the time. I would argue his statistics were impressive if you consider that he was in and out of the team.

But currently this Chelsea is a different side to Jose Mourinho's old Chelsea. Direct wingers don't suit us, because the pace we generally play at now is a lot slower. We need our attacking players to be patient as its the best way to break teams down.

If I could chose Hazard or Robben (in his early days) to play for this side now, then I would definitely chose Hazard.

comment by Joaquin (U16342)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Chelseamf™®© (U1677)
posted 10 minutes ago
Even at 20,21,22, 23 Robben had more vigour and conviction to his play, used to tear the width of the pitch to shreads non-stop frequently(when he wasn't on the treatment table).
Dominating and stretching teams to oblivion, even If his stats were unconvincing.
Never casual/nonchalant in approach.
Took it up a few more mighty notches when he left Chelsea.
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Again I would say both Hazard and Robben have different approaches to the same as each other. When Robben was playing at Chelsea he needed to be direct, because we were a counter attacking team at the time. I would argue his statistics were impressive if you consider that he was in and out of the team.

But currently this Chelsea is a different side to Jose Mourinho's old Chelsea. Direct wingers don't suit us, because the pace we generally play at now is a lot slower. We need our attacking players to be patient as its the best way to break teams down.

If I could chose Hazard or Robben (in his early days) to play for this side now, then I would definitely chose Hazard.
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Bayern play patient but that doesn't stop Robben's urgency and direct ways, finds a way through with movement coupled with intricate passing.
Eden can definitely be that player If he applies himself...

As I said previously has already shown for us that he can be more direct and increase intensity, If he wanted to.

Hazard is is quite clearly world class. And I do agree that Mourinho's defensive-cautious style hinders him. He needs to take more responsibility and test keepers more though.

"I'd say you're wrong. Apart from finishing, he is closer in ability to the three I mentioned. I don't
know where the giggs
comparison came up."

You're very wrong to say only finishing is the significant difference. Messi's vision and intelligence, composure, execution of the final ball, movement
and technical improvisation are much better. Ronaldo's physical qualities are in a completely different league and his movement behind and around a defence are miles above. What those 2 can do, no player comes close to them. Hazard has it hard enoui proving he's as good as a Robben or Suarez or Aguero or Neymar. To say he's got the ability or close to the ability of Messi or Ronaldo is way off. The only quality that is comparable is his dribbling and ball retention.

Agree with Cmf. Eden has a lot to improve on. Final ball and shooting not good enough. But he has time on his side.

His stats are low and I think whilst he's at Chelsea they will remain low. We ain't that team that looks to score at every opportunity. We score 1 or 2 and shut up shop.

Sheriff Comparing Hazard to Giggs is a huge complement. If he reaches the level Giggs has reached during his best years at United I'd be more then chuffed.

Yeah I definitely wouldnt put Hazard alongside Messi and Ronaldo. There's many flaws to his game that stil need ironing out. He's still young though.

Hazard has it hard enoui proving he's as good as a Robben or Suarez or Aguero or Neymar.
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They play in different positions but Hazard's better than Aguero. He's the best player in the PL. He's probably on par with Neymar as well, but admittedly behind Suarez and Robben.

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Nothing half-hearted about the way Robben imposes his game from his time at Chelsea to Bayern, sense with Eden holds back rather than producing that 100%.

To come to a conclusion...guess what I am saying is Eden needs to take games by the scruff regularly.