Well it clearly stated there is a problem with language. Just not a massive one.
But you keep suggesting that it doesnt
No wonder this forum is turning to s##t with inane bickering on every thread.
said nothing was getting lost in translation on the training ground.
"Surprisingly no," he said. "To be fair to the overseas lads, their English is quite good, I have to say
"So it's not so much a problem the language barrier."
This is a positive article.
Redders is confirming that the foreign lads understand what is being said on the training ground.
The title is "Leeds NOT lost in translation"
I cant see anywhere in that link that says there is a problem with the language barrier.
"So it's not so much a problem the language barrier."
LIW, thought you were a Yorkshireman? NR's sentence
is basically him, dismissing the notion that language is a barrier. Only he does it with a Yorkshire flavour.
The whole language barrier argument was one of the dumbest brought up on here and elsewhere. Really a
head-scratcher. People wanting to pile on for some odd reason? And as Jud said, this is a positive article.
5 stars from me.
Batty
I wasn't one of them who said it was a big problem.
But and I don't care what anyone says.
it doesn't make it easy and probably affects performance slightly at times.
It is a postive I agree and I was slightly petty I admit
LIW, as I said when this daft argument was created,
have a look around the Prem, European leagues, heck, world football, teams are a mixed bag of languages. Thanks to the Euro right to work policies, teams have fielded teams of differing languages for years. Never seems to hinder their game.
More hair-on-fire crap, dispelled by Neil himself.
Batty
I think if all players could communicate perfectly it would improve any sides performance.
Not saying a lot but it must do
The whole language barrier subject came up, because people were using it as an excuse to why we were doing so bad.
It was just the poor running of the team, tactics and not enough quality.
Chels ki are top of the league with extremely mixed bag.
Footy is like Beer, a language unto itself the world over.
And everyone's fluent in both
Players train and study opponents all week so that come match day, their instincts, skill, and team chemistry take over in the heat of the moment, regardless of language. I'll never buy language as a hindrance to a team's success. As H says though, it can be an excuse for
a poor team.
It was Croxleys finest who championed the language barrier, and fair enough. However now we know its not a massive issue.
Also gate u have to factor in, that at the highest level u have a huge backroom staff, budgets set aside for language training and the fact that quality players dnt rely on speech to play, its all visual etc.
comment by LUFC H'GATE (U6810)
Chels ki are top of the league with extremely mixed bag.
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The thing is H, Mourinho is fluent in Portuguese/Brazilian Portuguese, English, Spanish and Italian and probably can get by in a few other languages.
NR is fluent in Yarksheer only.
Tha knows wat I mean me duck.
The whole language barrier subject came up, because people were using it as an excuse to why we were doing so bad.
................................................
Not quite true in all honesty, one or two were using it to beat up Massimo Cellino. They were happy to use it to have a dig at the clubs owner because he was buying a number of foreign players.
One even started before the ink was dry on the purchase of the club and carried on until very recently (when we won a game) bleating on about it.
Most, sensible, posters have never seen it as such a big problem.
Just an opinion of course, but I'm probably not alone in holding it...?
When you're on the pitch, there's not that many words that need to be said and learnt.
Names are universal, square, mark him, stay with him, come on, one-two, to feet
It would be pretty easy to instil in all of them an understanding of each others' language for those few words
The rest is visual and experiential - hand pointing, peripheral vision, getting used to how a certain player plays
But it is on the training ground in trying to explain the reasons for doing certain things where a language barrier needs to be overcome. And if Redders says it's not an issue, then great. I expect performances and results to really improve.
"Give me the feckin ball,"....nope, not to hard!..
"Break his feckin leg,"....nope, as easy as it comes!..
"Get the feck on side,"....natural, to a natural spieler!..
"Where's the feckin ball?"....yep, that's not to hard to learn!..
"Clear it,"....they can learn that one!..
"Get up for that feckin corner,"....school boys know that one!..
"What's for feckin dinner?".........that's the one!..
Yorkshire pud?....Pizza?....Frogs legs?....or Toad in the old hole?....that'll be the one that mixes it!..
Boy, I hope nobody throws in when's kick off!.
Redder's has a lot on his plate if you ask me!.
Imagine them asking the way to ER?.
If the taxi drivers are anything like the ones around here they'll take them the longest from long way they can, can cost a feckin fortune!.
It was more of a problem with Darko in charge. I'm sure there isn't much of a problem now.
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Wait does that mean berardi inept performances weren't a result of anything to do with his lanaguage skills getting in the way of his game.
Christ he's worse than I thought, at least before he had an excuse
If they do worksop it's probably a fetish....
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posted on 19/11/14
Can you read ???
posted on 19/11/14
yes I can, can you LIW?
posted on 19/11/14
Well it clearly stated there is a problem with language. Just not a massive one.
But you keep suggesting that it doesnt
posted on 19/11/14
No wonder this forum is turning to s##t with inane bickering on every thread.
posted on 19/11/14
said nothing was getting lost in translation on the training ground.
"Surprisingly no," he said. "To be fair to the overseas lads, their English is quite good, I have to say
"So it's not so much a problem the language barrier."
posted on 19/11/14
This is a positive article.
Redders is confirming that the foreign lads understand what is being said on the training ground.
The title is "Leeds NOT lost in translation"
I cant see anywhere in that link that says there is a problem with the language barrier.
posted on 19/11/14
"So it's not so much a problem the language barrier."
LIW, thought you were a Yorkshireman? NR's sentence
is basically him, dismissing the notion that language is a barrier. Only he does it with a Yorkshire flavour.
The whole language barrier argument was one of the dumbest brought up on here and elsewhere. Really a
head-scratcher. People wanting to pile on for some odd reason? And as Jud said, this is a positive article.
5 stars from me.
posted on 19/11/14
Batty
I wasn't one of them who said it was a big problem.
But and I don't care what anyone says.
it doesn't make it easy and probably affects performance slightly at times.
It is a postive I agree and I was slightly petty I admit
posted on 19/11/14
LIW, as I said when this daft argument was created,
have a look around the Prem, European leagues, heck, world football, teams are a mixed bag of languages. Thanks to the Euro right to work policies, teams have fielded teams of differing languages for years. Never seems to hinder their game.
More hair-on-fire crap, dispelled by Neil himself.
posted on 19/11/14
Batty
I think if all players could communicate perfectly it would improve any sides performance.
Not saying a lot but it must do
posted on 19/11/14
The whole language barrier subject came up, because people were using it as an excuse to why we were doing so bad.
It was just the poor running of the team, tactics and not enough quality.
Chels ki are top of the league with extremely mixed bag.
posted on 19/11/14
Footy is like Beer, a language unto itself the world over.
And everyone's fluent in both
Players train and study opponents all week so that come match day, their instincts, skill, and team chemistry take over in the heat of the moment, regardless of language. I'll never buy language as a hindrance to a team's success. As H says though, it can be an excuse for
a poor team.
posted on 19/11/14
It was Croxleys finest who championed the language barrier, and fair enough. However now we know its not a massive issue.
Also gate u have to factor in, that at the highest level u have a huge backroom staff, budgets set aside for language training and the fact that quality players dnt rely on speech to play, its all visual etc.
posted on 19/11/14
comment by LUFC H'GATE (U6810)
Chels ki are top of the league with extremely mixed bag.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The thing is H, Mourinho is fluent in Portuguese/Brazilian Portuguese, English, Spanish and Italian and probably can get by in a few other languages.
NR is fluent in Yarksheer only.
Tha knows wat I mean me duck.
posted on 19/11/14
The whole language barrier subject came up, because people were using it as an excuse to why we were doing so bad.
................................................
Not quite true in all honesty, one or two were using it to beat up Massimo Cellino. They were happy to use it to have a dig at the clubs owner because he was buying a number of foreign players.
One even started before the ink was dry on the purchase of the club and carried on until very recently (when we won a game) bleating on about it.
Most, sensible, posters have never seen it as such a big problem.
Just an opinion of course, but I'm probably not alone in holding it...?
posted on 19/11/14
When you're on the pitch, there's not that many words that need to be said and learnt.
Names are universal, square, mark him, stay with him, come on, one-two, to feet
It would be pretty easy to instil in all of them an understanding of each others' language for those few words
The rest is visual and experiential - hand pointing, peripheral vision, getting used to how a certain player plays
But it is on the training ground in trying to explain the reasons for doing certain things where a language barrier needs to be overcome. And if Redders says it's not an issue, then great. I expect performances and results to really improve.
posted on 19/11/14
"Give me the feckin ball,"....nope, not to hard!..
"Break his feckin leg,"....nope, as easy as it comes!..
"Get the feck on side,"....natural, to a natural spieler!..
"Where's the feckin ball?"....yep, that's not to hard to learn!..
"Clear it,"....they can learn that one!..
"Get up for that feckin corner,"....school boys know that one!..
"What's for feckin dinner?".........that's the one!..
Yorkshire pud?....Pizza?....Frogs legs?....or Toad in the old hole?....that'll be the one that mixes it!..
Boy, I hope nobody throws in when's kick off!.
Redder's has a lot on his plate if you ask me!.
Imagine them asking the way to ER?.
If the taxi drivers are anything like the ones around here they'll take them the longest from long way they can, can cost a feckin fortune!.
posted on 19/11/14
It was more of a problem with Darko in charge. I'm sure there isn't much of a problem now.
posted on 19/11/14
Evidence?
posted on 19/11/14
Que?
posted on 19/11/14
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posted on 19/11/14
Wait does that mean berardi inept performances weren't a result of anything to do with his lanaguage skills getting in the way of his game.
Christ he's worse than I thought, at least before he had an excuse
posted on 20/11/14
If they do worksop it's probably a fetish....
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