There are so many black players that racist accusations are insane,and most fans are not racist either.
White British players are a dying breed at the EPL level,and I do not know why Asian players are not playing in numbers?
If Asian guys were kept out for racist reasons,then the racists are failing,due to the number of black footballers.
How many ethnic minority people are applying for managerial jobs,or ref's.
We are havin a pop at white guys in management and at board level for so called racist views,but are they really racist.Each racial group has their pet names for each other,and it is not just whitey's hobby.
very quite indeed its like I have scratched the wrong piranha infested pond🍦
The lack of minority referees in the game with 28% non white is puzzling and the lack of black managers just embarasses the whole Premier League.
There not racist, and the nba situation was totally different - that was actual racism - this old idiot just said something abouts 'chinkys' and 'jews like money', hardly comparable.
There's no point forcing it - you just have to give it time, there will be more black managers in the future, but there doesn't have to be just for the sake of it
I have always admired Dave Whellan for turning Wigan into giants but because he acted like a bum am afraid he has to step down and let someone else run Wigan or we will continue to ignore racism in all forms because we are scared to speak.
Wolf...I think you don't understand, only when managers are also from ethnic minorities then we could definitely send a positive signal to all that we don't stop anyone from reaching any heights even the PM of UK if that fellow has merits.
UK is one hundred years behind US in race relation, #sad.
Lord
Why should colour matter with management,and are black guys actually been put off or turned down,because of colour?
What would make a black manager so better that a foreign or white bloke,btw?
If there are too many black players,should we positively favour white one's now,and with black and Asian ref's,managers and players.
Just to get colour coded quota's.
Lord
In the USA,90 per cent of racial incidents are black on white,so is that what you mean with regard to race relations?
Bit like so called white trash,on drugs and unemployed,looking down on Obama.
I would also say white racism is stronger in the states,than in the UK.
Are black players keeping Asian players out of footie?
Why are Asian players not in the top flight in similar numbers to of black players?Could it possibly be due to cultural or family reasons,just as white males are now bottom of the educational ladder.Is white ignorance at school,down to racism?
It is complex,and labelling the FA as racist is lazy,and I am sure some are,as in black,asian,chinese,Polish,Spanish,French circles.
It's just ignorance not racism. If he was forced to sell his club on the basis of these comments then the world will have gone PC mad like never before.
We need to be careful we don't start getting into Sol Campbell levels of reaction.
i wouldnt say the fa are racist
i just think its too much of an old boys club culture at the fa
a more general point about racism, although we have come on leaps and bounds in tolerating other races in this country, i do honestly think people have gotten better in hiding their views/feelings nowadays than before.
I lived in London in the 80's and after a week I was mugged by black guys,near the frontline,in Brixton.
My Scottish mate was attacked in the street at random,by a large black guy,who had never seen him before.
At a civil service Christams party,white English people were barred from a black's only party,athough my black colleagues allowed me in,as I was from Belfast,and not white English.
When I worked at Heathrow,asian guys called guys whitey,and put up posters of Saddam...........
Racism goes both ways,and is often not whitey's fault.
We cannot be held responsible for the sins of our fathers,any more than all muslim's be blamed for islamist global terror.
Mr Chelsea
How are you bud?
Chelsea did have a racist problem when I started going,and I was disgusted at the open racism expressed towards a black bloke in the Chelsea Potter pub,when we were having a Rangers n Chelsea sing song.
Also in Liverpool,after a Chelsea game,locals wereopenly racist and snide to minority folk in the pub,so perhaps some cannot hide their racism,when drink opens their sad mouths.
All racism is wrong,in case folk think I am being one sided,from prior posts.
bluebells im good mate
yep i agree with you. racism can happen between any races, its not just whites on asians or blacks, its vice versa.. id like to think we,as a country have moved on from this though.
agree on the point about alcohol... maybe the drink reveals their true feelings like you said.
Hope you're well too bluebells
comparing Whelan's comments to Donald Sterling's Have you listened to both of them?
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Lord
In the USA,90 per cent of racial incidents are black on white,so is that what you mean with regard to race relations?
Bit like so called white trash,on drugs and unemployed,looking down on Obama.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's a 'racial incident?' And where did you get this 90% stat?
racism is bad
it should be banned
This bullshït make my blood boil. If the OP had to work with lazy arséd immigrants (coloured and white) who produced the race card every time you gave them a böllocking for not pulling their weight he wouldn't leave such a thread.
UK is more racist than many western nation and I think Canada is by far more tolerant followed by France, US, Scandinavian countries particularly Sweden and Norway and then the worst countries in the west are;
Holland, Germany, Austria and the balkan states of Serbia, Croatia and the Eastern Europeans ie, Poland, Hungary. By far the most racist place in Europe goes to ........ Russsia, ignorant people.
AlasnomoreSmith and jones.........you are just racist go fack yourself mate, igorance written all over your comment.
Alasnomore......tell me why there ain't minority refs and why women get discriminated in our league, in the US, many women are included in officiating matches, same as blacks and asians.
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posted on 21/11/14
There are so many black players that racist accusations are insane,and most fans are not racist either.
White British players are a dying breed at the EPL level,and I do not know why Asian players are not playing in numbers?
If Asian guys were kept out for racist reasons,then the racists are failing,due to the number of black footballers.
How many ethnic minority people are applying for managerial jobs,or ref's.
We are havin a pop at white guys in management and at board level for so called racist views,but are they really racist.Each racial group has their pet names for each other,and it is not just whitey's hobby.
posted on 21/11/14
very quite indeed its like I have scratched the wrong piranha infested pond🍦
posted on 21/11/14
The lack of minority referees in the game with 28% non white is puzzling and the lack of black managers just embarasses the whole Premier League.
posted on 21/11/14
There not racist, and the nba situation was totally different - that was actual racism - this old idiot just said something abouts 'chinkys' and 'jews like money', hardly comparable.
posted on 21/11/14
There's no point forcing it - you just have to give it time, there will be more black managers in the future, but there doesn't have to be just for the sake of it
posted on 21/11/14
I have always admired Dave Whellan for turning Wigan into giants but because he acted like a bum am afraid he has to step down and let someone else run Wigan or we will continue to ignore racism in all forms because we are scared to speak.
posted on 21/11/14
Wolf...I think you don't understand, only when managers are also from ethnic minorities then we could definitely send a positive signal to all that we don't stop anyone from reaching any heights even the PM of UK if that fellow has merits.
posted on 21/11/14
UK is one hundred years behind US in race relation, #sad.
posted on 21/11/14
Lord
Why should colour matter with management,and are black guys actually been put off or turned down,because of colour?
What would make a black manager so better that a foreign or white bloke,btw?
If there are too many black players,should we positively favour white one's now,and with black and Asian ref's,managers and players.
Just to get colour coded quota's.
posted on 21/11/14
Lord
In the USA,90 per cent of racial incidents are black on white,so is that what you mean with regard to race relations?
Bit like so called white trash,on drugs and unemployed,looking down on Obama.
posted on 21/11/14
I would also say white racism is stronger in the states,than in the UK.
posted on 21/11/14
Are black players keeping Asian players out of footie?
Why are Asian players not in the top flight in similar numbers to of black players?Could it possibly be due to cultural or family reasons,just as white males are now bottom of the educational ladder.Is white ignorance at school,down to racism?
It is complex,and labelling the FA as racist is lazy,and I am sure some are,as in black,asian,chinese,Polish,Spanish,French circles.
posted on 21/11/14
It's just ignorance not racism. If he was forced to sell his club on the basis of these comments then the world will have gone PC mad like never before.
We need to be careful we don't start getting into Sol Campbell levels of reaction.
posted on 21/11/14
i wouldnt say the fa are racist
i just think its too much of an old boys club culture at the fa
a more general point about racism, although we have come on leaps and bounds in tolerating other races in this country, i do honestly think people have gotten better in hiding their views/feelings nowadays than before.
posted on 21/11/14
I lived in London in the 80's and after a week I was mugged by black guys,near the frontline,in Brixton.
My Scottish mate was attacked in the street at random,by a large black guy,who had never seen him before.
At a civil service Christams party,white English people were barred from a black's only party,athough my black colleagues allowed me in,as I was from Belfast,and not white English.
When I worked at Heathrow,asian guys called guys whitey,and put up posters of Saddam...........
Racism goes both ways,and is often not whitey's fault.
We cannot be held responsible for the sins of our fathers,any more than all muslim's be blamed for islamist global terror.
posted on 21/11/14
Mr Chelsea
How are you bud?
Chelsea did have a racist problem when I started going,and I was disgusted at the open racism expressed towards a black bloke in the Chelsea Potter pub,when we were having a Rangers n Chelsea sing song.
Also in Liverpool,after a Chelsea game,locals wereopenly racist and snide to minority folk in the pub,so perhaps some cannot hide their racism,when drink opens their sad mouths.
All racism is wrong,in case folk think I am being one sided,from prior posts.
posted on 21/11/14
bluebells im good mate
yep i agree with you. racism can happen between any races, its not just whites on asians or blacks, its vice versa.. id like to think we,as a country have moved on from this though.
agree on the point about alcohol... maybe the drink reveals their true feelings like you said.
posted on 21/11/14
Hope you're well too bluebells
posted on 21/11/14
comparing Whelan's comments to Donald Sterling's Have you listened to both of them?
posted on 21/11/14
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Lord
In the USA,90 per cent of racial incidents are black on white,so is that what you mean with regard to race relations?
Bit like so called white trash,on drugs and unemployed,looking down on Obama.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's a 'racial incident?' And where did you get this 90% stat?
posted on 21/11/14
racism is bad
it should be banned
posted on 21/11/14
This bullshït make my blood boil. If the OP had to work with lazy arséd immigrants (coloured and white) who produced the race card every time you gave them a böllocking for not pulling their weight he wouldn't leave such a thread.
posted on 21/11/14
UK is more racist than many western nation and I think Canada is by far more tolerant followed by France, US, Scandinavian countries particularly Sweden and Norway and then the worst countries in the west are;
Holland, Germany, Austria and the balkan states of Serbia, Croatia and the Eastern Europeans ie, Poland, Hungary. By far the most racist place in Europe goes to ........ Russsia, ignorant people.
posted on 21/11/14
AlasnomoreSmith and jones.........you are just racist go fack yourself mate, igorance written all over your comment.
posted on 21/11/14
Alasnomore......tell me why there ain't minority refs and why women get discriminated in our league, in the US, many women are included in officiating matches, same as blacks and asians.
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