As you say, he would need to be replaced by a younger, and better version, or there is no point.
Lucas quietly gets on with breaking up play, and moving the ball on, and has allowed our captain to influence play further up the pitch.
We could all see it, and when it happened, our results improved dramatically.
Lucas in for me.
he joined Liverpool in 2007. It seems like he has been here for years.
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Lucas in. If he does go it should prob be in the summer.
He has helped bring some solidity back intot the Team. To get rid in the middle of a season, where so far, we have struggled to get anywhere near top form, would be a mistake IMHO.
he joined Liverpool in 2007. It seems like he has been here for years.
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Suppose it depends on how old you are.
iCraft I am an old man. 8 years is a flash in the pan for me
We definitely look much more solid with him in the team. Lucas in.
If we have a better option lined up then sell him. We should only keep him because he's the only current option as a DM in the squad.
The formation change means he's a must for me and I feel it would be sheer madness to even consider letting him go at this point of the season. He's also been around the club for years and knows the ins and outs and that type of character would be a massive loss in the dressing room too in my opinion. He does a fairly decent job and always gets on it - would be foolish to let him go.
Having Gerrard in that deep position cost us. He does not have the discipline or legs to play that position. This is a natural position for Lucas and no surprise the results have improved as well Gerrards effectiveness in the final 3rd having the shackles of playing deep taken off him.
I'd probably still be tempted to go for Song in summer because as well the Lucas qualities he also has that extra pace and power to go with the ability to make things happen in final 3rd.
That does not mean we should sell Lucas as he and Song can still make a good partnership in certain games.
Kash
I like Song as well. I watched the Utd v Saints game yesterday and Saints had Sniederlin & Wanyama sat in front of their defence making life really easy for the central defenders.
With Song and Lucas in front of our creaking defence would give them a lot more cover and also free up the likes of Gerrard and the wing backs to play further up the field.
T Bone, I think Rodgers hoped Lucas and Allen could play that role but Allen is simply terrible.
Selling him now would be a big risk if we don't sign a replacement, as you are relying on Can adapting quickly to playing in midfield which he has barely done so far, and on Allen finding some form from somewhere.
Long term though we need better than him.
He is a decent player, but I don't believe he would get in the first team of most top sides.
Italy will suit him because it's a bit slower paced and more tactical.
I feel he is starting to be overrated again like he was a few years ago.
comment by Leiva la vida Lucas {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 44 minutes ago
If we have a better option lined up then sell him. We should only keep him because he's the only current option as a DM in the squad.
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Np point losing him now, needs to be improved upon but now is not the time
Good to see most people want him to stay until at least the end of the season.
I do feel we need better but adding another player in that role in January would upset the apple cart again.
I think we need a real powerhouse like Matic so we can start playing Can in the middle and give him freedom to go on those powerful runs.
Always supported Lucas. It's not just about Saturday afternoons either. He's a top pro, popular and has helped many of the new lads settle in over the years apparently.
I wouldn't sell him now personally. It's a young squad and we'll be losing Gerrard come summer as well. I like to keep the good pro's who can influence games and he is both of those things.
He's every bit as good as Mikel, Flamini or Fletcher.
Not saying much is it ^ combined with his 80k a week wages..
You wanted rid ages ago
Wanted a "proper DM" whatever that is. Anyway it is saying much isn't it cos we win more games with him. May not fit into a stats sheet but football is played on grass.
I said on an Arsenal board a couple of months ago that he's be perfect for Wenger and sort Arsenal out. He is strong, keeps position and importantly, keeps a team ticking over and he'd probably be available for less than 10 million. I have no idea why Rodgers doesn't like him. When all the hype about Gerrard dies down, I think he's Liverpool's best midfielder.
Keep him of course
We like Lucas
comment by Robbing_Hoody -Escape goating pre-madonnas so that profits put me in folk law pacifically to show what an shambles Christmas is as it's not rocket sconce cos I'm a massive pendant. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
You wanted rid ages ago
Wanted a "proper DM" whatever that is. Anyway it is saying much isn't it cos we win more games with him. May not fit into a stats sheet but football is played on grass.
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I know and I still do, hes never been able to get into the team when we have been good, hes the only dm weve got so no point selling him unless theres a replacement. Hes not hard to improve upon.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody -Escape goating pre-madonnas so that profits put me in folk law pacifically to show what an shambles Christmas is as it's not rocket sconce cos I'm a massive pendant. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
You wanted rid ages ago
Wanted a "proper DM" whatever that is. Anyway it is saying much isn't it cos we win more games with him. May not fit into a stats sheet but football is played on grass.
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I know and I still do, hes never been able to get into the team when we have been good, hes the only dm weve got so no point selling him unless theres a replacement. Hes not hard to improve upon.
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I know and I still do, hes never been able to get into the team when we have been good, hes the only dm weve got so no point selling him unless theres a replacement. Hes not hard to improve upon.
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Absolutely - it's not like he played 25 games in a season when we put together a league challenge is it.
Fletcher and Mikel have not got any medals and these highly professional squad players should be got rid of.
You've said he's not hard to improve on. Go on then. Who, at what cost and when are they signing? What "proper DM" do you have in mind.
If you name a good looking young hispanic type I'll let out a bit of wee.
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posted on 12/1/15
As you say, he would need to be replaced by a younger, and better version, or there is no point.
Lucas quietly gets on with breaking up play, and moving the ball on, and has allowed our captain to influence play further up the pitch.
We could all see it, and when it happened, our results improved dramatically.
Lucas in for me.
posted on 12/1/15
he joined Liverpool in 2007. It seems like he has been here for years.
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posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
Lucas in. If he does go it should prob be in the summer.
He has helped bring some solidity back intot the Team. To get rid in the middle of a season, where so far, we have struggled to get anywhere near top form, would be a mistake IMHO.
posted on 12/1/15
he joined Liverpool in 2007. It seems like he has been here for years.
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Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.
Suppose it depends on how old you are.
posted on 12/1/15
iCraft I am an old man. 8 years is a flash in the pan for me
posted on 12/1/15
We definitely look much more solid with him in the team. Lucas in.
posted on 12/1/15
If we have a better option lined up then sell him. We should only keep him because he's the only current option as a DM in the squad.
posted on 12/1/15
The formation change means he's a must for me and I feel it would be sheer madness to even consider letting him go at this point of the season. He's also been around the club for years and knows the ins and outs and that type of character would be a massive loss in the dressing room too in my opinion. He does a fairly decent job and always gets on it - would be foolish to let him go.
posted on 12/1/15
Having Gerrard in that deep position cost us. He does not have the discipline or legs to play that position. This is a natural position for Lucas and no surprise the results have improved as well Gerrards effectiveness in the final 3rd having the shackles of playing deep taken off him.
I'd probably still be tempted to go for Song in summer because as well the Lucas qualities he also has that extra pace and power to go with the ability to make things happen in final 3rd.
That does not mean we should sell Lucas as he and Song can still make a good partnership in certain games.
posted on 12/1/15
Kash
I like Song as well. I watched the Utd v Saints game yesterday and Saints had Sniederlin & Wanyama sat in front of their defence making life really easy for the central defenders.
With Song and Lucas in front of our creaking defence would give them a lot more cover and also free up the likes of Gerrard and the wing backs to play further up the field.
posted on 12/1/15
T Bone, I think Rodgers hoped Lucas and Allen could play that role but Allen is simply terrible.
posted on 12/1/15
Selling him now would be a big risk if we don't sign a replacement, as you are relying on Can adapting quickly to playing in midfield which he has barely done so far, and on Allen finding some form from somewhere.
Long term though we need better than him.
He is a decent player, but I don't believe he would get in the first team of most top sides.
Italy will suit him because it's a bit slower paced and more tactical.
I feel he is starting to be overrated again like he was a few years ago.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Leiva la vida Lucas {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 44 minutes ago
If we have a better option lined up then sell him. We should only keep him because he's the only current option as a DM in the squad.
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posted on 12/1/15
Np point losing him now, needs to be improved upon but now is not the time
posted on 12/1/15
Good to see most people want him to stay until at least the end of the season.
I do feel we need better but adding another player in that role in January would upset the apple cart again.
I think we need a real powerhouse like Matic so we can start playing Can in the middle and give him freedom to go on those powerful runs.
posted on 12/1/15
Always supported Lucas. It's not just about Saturday afternoons either. He's a top pro, popular and has helped many of the new lads settle in over the years apparently.
I wouldn't sell him now personally. It's a young squad and we'll be losing Gerrard come summer as well. I like to keep the good pro's who can influence games and he is both of those things.
He's every bit as good as Mikel, Flamini or Fletcher.
posted on 12/1/15
Not saying much is it ^ combined with his 80k a week wages..
posted on 12/1/15
You wanted rid ages ago
Wanted a "proper DM" whatever that is. Anyway it is saying much isn't it cos we win more games with him. May not fit into a stats sheet but football is played on grass.
posted on 12/1/15
I said on an Arsenal board a couple of months ago that he's be perfect for Wenger and sort Arsenal out. He is strong, keeps position and importantly, keeps a team ticking over and he'd probably be available for less than 10 million. I have no idea why Rodgers doesn't like him. When all the hype about Gerrard dies down, I think he's Liverpool's best midfielder.
posted on 12/1/15
Keep him of course
We like Lucas
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Robbing_Hoody -Escape goating pre-madonnas so that profits put me in folk law pacifically to show what an shambles Christmas is as it's not rocket sconce cos I'm a massive pendant. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
You wanted rid ages ago
Wanted a "proper DM" whatever that is. Anyway it is saying much isn't it cos we win more games with him. May not fit into a stats sheet but football is played on grass.
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I know and I still do, hes never been able to get into the team when we have been good, hes the only dm weve got so no point selling him unless theres a replacement. Hes not hard to improve upon.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Stupendous Sakho (U20224)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody -Escape goating pre-madonnas so that profits put me in folk law pacifically to show what an shambles Christmas is as it's not rocket sconce cos I'm a massive pendant. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
You wanted rid ages ago
Wanted a "proper DM" whatever that is. Anyway it is saying much isn't it cos we win more games with him. May not fit into a stats sheet but football is played on grass.
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I know and I still do, hes never been able to get into the team when we have been good, hes the only dm weve got so no point selling him unless theres a replacement. Hes not hard to improve upon.
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Totally
posted on 12/1/15
I know and I still do, hes never been able to get into the team when we have been good, hes the only dm weve got so no point selling him unless theres a replacement. Hes not hard to improve upon.
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Absolutely - it's not like he played 25 games in a season when we put together a league challenge is it.
Fletcher and Mikel have not got any medals and these highly professional squad players should be got rid of.
You've said he's not hard to improve on. Go on then. Who, at what cost and when are they signing? What "proper DM" do you have in mind.
If you name a good looking young hispanic type I'll let out a bit of wee.
posted on 12/1/15
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