For once I'd have to agree with you there
But it is still always worth a laugh though!
You can beat a good jakey fight.
add to that the fact that there is no auto champ league group stages place next year its a dead rubber
winner has 1 qualifier
2nd has 2 qualifiers
in other words were out already
i thought the winner of the SPL this year got auto CL qualification? Could be wong but sure i heard this to be the case?
Coach I take it your comin from a fans viewpoint,I think we might need to worry about some of our players. Big Jela looked pretty demoralised last night,if a Prem team comes sniffin who's to say he wont get tae? The big attraction of comin here is already oot the windae
Why do you think most clubs play to half empty stadia? Why do you think teams like Dundee United have seen season tickets drop by 18% this season?
The lack of competition is killing our league. Yet nothing will ever get done about it because it would mean the Old Firm losing out which isn't an option for them.
At least we get to see FC Metalist Kaharkiv in the Europa League still. Roll on Thursday evenings.
Yeah, winners of SPL this year straight into CL groups, so SPL worth title worth min £10m this year.
Runners up get 3 quals for CL.
End of next season will be 3 quals for winner, and no place for runners up.
So, now we have a straight 8 1/2 month, drag race for the title, with few other distractions.
DC76 Kinda got that impression from Bocanegras face aswell, but at the end of the day these guys were playing and it is all their faults!
add to that the fact that there is no auto champ league group stages
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Yes there is, although it won't last long after last night's results.
The lack of competition is killing our league. Yet nothing will ever get done about it because it would mean the Old Firm losing out which isn't an option for them.
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Hardly the OFs fault your teams are uncompetitive. Ok we get a bit more TV money but that's it and it's nowhere near an amount that would make you competitive.
DC, why would any prem. team be interested in Jelly after his misses over the two legs.
Fair do's bluebird,but some of these guys were probably tempted here partly by Champions League or European football of some kind,not three weeks a season though. This is jela's second season and he's barely kicked a baw there in two years. He was by no means the only guy missin chances,and I dont think they are indictive of his top form
you get slided up the chute.
Hardly the OFs fault your teams are uncompetitive. Ok we get a bit more TV money but that's it and it's nowhere near an amount that would make you competitive.
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Now in no way am I saying that all the country's woes are due to the Old Firm, and I'm very much aware that we've all made decisions based on self interest, but to say that the money isn't significant is bizarre, particularly when you consider the budgets team like United and St Johnstone and the like are working on.
The difference between finishing 1st and 2nd is minimal. The difference between finishing 2nd and 3rd is staggering. We all know why that is.
We all know why that is.
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You're talking like there's some kind of conspiracy. Again it's not the old firms fault hey have more money to spend. They draw bigger crowds and have wealthier owners. It's hardly a conspiracy.
In terms of TV money according to the SPL website 48% of it is distributed evenly and 52% is staggered according to league positions. So yes the OF get more than the rest because they WIN not because of who they are.
Perhaps if people from Dundee didn't get on buses to Glasgow every weekend your team would have a bigger fanbase and have a bigger spending power and would not be forced to sell your best players.
You're talking like there's some kind of conspiracy. Again it's not the old firms fault hey have more money to spend. They draw bigger crowds and have wealthier owners. It's hardly a conspiracy.
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Agreed, they should always have more to spend because of their far superior fan base. I'm not claiming anything different. However, to have the prize money so blatantly weighted towards the Old Firm is not conducive to a competitive league. Surely you can accept that point?
In terms of TV money according to the SPL website 48% of it is distributed evenly and 52% is staggered according to league positions. So yes the OF get more than the rest because they WIN not because of who they are.
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I don't know the exact figure, but 1st and 2nd are pretty close together financially whereas 3rd gets around half of what second gets, and the rest have minor drops down to 12th. Hardly fair, is it?
Perhaps if people from Dundee didn't get on buses to Glasgow every weekend your team would have a bigger fanbase and have a bigger spending power and would not be forced to sell your best players.
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I have no problem with people getting on the buses. They pay their money into Scottish football and can choose to support who they want. The ones that I have no time for are the ones who buy the replica shirts and sit in pubs across the city telling everyone who will listen how great Celtic/Rangers are when they've never been near Ibrox or Parkhead in their life and never intend to. If even half of those people occassionally went to see their local teams then we'd be far more competitive.
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posted on 26/8/11
For once I'd have to agree with you there
posted on 26/8/11
But it is still always worth a laugh though!
You can beat a good jakey fight.
posted on 26/8/11
add to that the fact that there is no auto champ league group stages place next year its a dead rubber
winner has 1 qualifier
2nd has 2 qualifiers
in other words were out already
posted on 26/8/11
i thought the winner of the SPL this year got auto CL qualification? Could be wong but sure i heard this to be the case?
posted on 26/8/11
Coach I take it your comin from a fans viewpoint,I think we might need to worry about some of our players. Big Jela looked pretty demoralised last night,if a Prem team comes sniffin who's to say he wont get tae? The big attraction of comin here is already oot the windae
posted on 26/8/11
Why do you think most clubs play to half empty stadia? Why do you think teams like Dundee United have seen season tickets drop by 18% this season?
The lack of competition is killing our league. Yet nothing will ever get done about it because it would mean the Old Firm losing out which isn't an option for them.
posted on 26/8/11
At least we get to see FC Metalist Kaharkiv in the Europa League still. Roll on Thursday evenings.
posted on 26/8/11
Yeah, winners of SPL this year straight into CL groups, so SPL worth title worth min £10m this year.
Runners up get 3 quals for CL.
End of next season will be 3 quals for winner, and no place for runners up.
So, now we have a straight 8 1/2 month, drag race for the title, with few other distractions.
posted on 26/8/11
DC76 Kinda got that impression from Bocanegras face aswell, but at the end of the day these guys were playing and it is all their faults!
posted on 26/8/11
add to that the fact that there is no auto champ league group stages
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Yes there is, although it won't last long after last night's results.
posted on 26/8/11
The lack of competition is killing our league. Yet nothing will ever get done about it because it would mean the Old Firm losing out which isn't an option for them.
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Hardly the OFs fault your teams are uncompetitive. Ok we get a bit more TV money but that's it and it's nowhere near an amount that would make you competitive.
posted on 26/8/11
DC, why would any prem. team be interested in Jelly after his misses over the two legs.
posted on 26/8/11
Fair do's bluebird,but some of these guys were probably tempted here partly by Champions League or European football of some kind,not three weeks a season though. This is jela's second season and he's barely kicked a baw there in two years. He was by no means the only guy missin chances,and I dont think they are indictive of his top form
posted on 27/8/11
you get slided up the chute.
posted on 27/8/11
Hardly the OFs fault your teams are uncompetitive. Ok we get a bit more TV money but that's it and it's nowhere near an amount that would make you competitive.
__________________________________________
Now in no way am I saying that all the country's woes are due to the Old Firm, and I'm very much aware that we've all made decisions based on self interest, but to say that the money isn't significant is bizarre, particularly when you consider the budgets team like United and St Johnstone and the like are working on.
The difference between finishing 1st and 2nd is minimal. The difference between finishing 2nd and 3rd is staggering. We all know why that is.
posted on 28/8/11
We all know why that is.
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You're talking like there's some kind of conspiracy. Again it's not the old firms fault hey have more money to spend. They draw bigger crowds and have wealthier owners. It's hardly a conspiracy.
In terms of TV money according to the SPL website 48% of it is distributed evenly and 52% is staggered according to league positions. So yes the OF get more than the rest because they WIN not because of who they are.
Perhaps if people from Dundee didn't get on buses to Glasgow every weekend your team would have a bigger fanbase and have a bigger spending power and would not be forced to sell your best players.
posted on 28/8/11
You're talking like there's some kind of conspiracy. Again it's not the old firms fault hey have more money to spend. They draw bigger crowds and have wealthier owners. It's hardly a conspiracy.
_______________________________________
Agreed, they should always have more to spend because of their far superior fan base. I'm not claiming anything different. However, to have the prize money so blatantly weighted towards the Old Firm is not conducive to a competitive league. Surely you can accept that point?
In terms of TV money according to the SPL website 48% of it is distributed evenly and 52% is staggered according to league positions. So yes the OF get more than the rest because they WIN not because of who they are.
_______________________________________
I don't know the exact figure, but 1st and 2nd are pretty close together financially whereas 3rd gets around half of what second gets, and the rest have minor drops down to 12th. Hardly fair, is it?
Perhaps if people from Dundee didn't get on buses to Glasgow every weekend your team would have a bigger fanbase and have a bigger spending power and would not be forced to sell your best players.
__________________________________________
I have no problem with people getting on the buses. They pay their money into Scottish football and can choose to support who they want. The ones that I have no time for are the ones who buy the replica shirts and sit in pubs across the city telling everyone who will listen how great Celtic/Rangers are when they've never been near Ibrox or Parkhead in their life and never intend to. If even half of those people occassionally went to see their local teams then we'd be far more competitive.
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