It's obvious Feeo is leaving and Wengie doesn't want to play him in case he snaps again
As a neutral in peace...
I think you should sell the OP to Spurs.
Obviously going to be deemed a wum but these are my actual opinions.
I don't carr why people say. I love this club and I know it can be so much better than it is now. So yeah insult me, ban me etc I'm still a really loyal gooner who loves the club
Welbeck had a positive impact and showed why he should have started.
Wrong. He shouldnt have started the game. He showed against Reading why. And maybe you noticed he could have won this game when he came on.
Yes but you can't blame a player who was on for 15 mins for not winning the game when the other players who were on for 70-75 mins before him didn't create anything to trouble them.
Those are the players I criticise
When on the attack it felt to me like they could score while in contrast arsenal I felt Chelsea had it covered.
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The whole article is a load of rubbish but I thought I should respond to this bit as a way to help the OP understand football.
Chelsea had 2 banks of 4 defenders 5 meters apart when we attacked them. When chelsea attacked us they were mostly confronted by 4 defenders & Coquelin.
Go figure.
Chelsea fans seem to miss the point why they are labelled a boring team. It's not about how many goals they have scored or how many chances they had in the game. It's about their philosophy.
It's not just domestic fans who think they play "shít on a stick" football. The whole of Europe does.
I respect wenger for what he has done for our club and trust me I know he has done a lot. But our seasons could just be out on repeat under him now. There is no sign of proactive change.
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Not really true, we used to sell our players and buy cheap replacements and win nothing and now it's the opposite... so we have progressed a lot and will again next season
comment by internal solutions (U19964)
posted 2 minutes ago
I respect wenger for what he has done for our club and trust me I know he has done a lot. But our seasons could just be out on repeat under him now. There is no sign of proactive change.
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Not really true, we used to sell our players and buy cheap replacements and win nothing and now it's the opposite... so we have progressed a lot and will again next season
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So wenger played Coquelin because he saw his potential or rather cause arteta and flaming were out... I think almost every arsenal fan knows the answer to that.
Wenger reacts to a problem after the problem occurs, a top class manager can foresee a problem occurring and will do something to prevent it happening.
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 4 minutes ago
When on the attack it felt to me like they could score while in contrast arsenal I felt Chelsea had it covered.
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The whole article is a load of rubbish but I thought I should respond to this bit as a way to help the OP understand football.
Chelsea had 2 banks of 4 defenders 5 meters apart when we attacked them. When chelsea attacked us they were mostly confronted by 4 defenders & Coquelin.
Go figure.
Chelsea fans seem to miss the point why they are labelled a boring team. It's not about how many goals they have scored or how many chances they had in the game. It's about their philosophy.
It's not just domestic fans who think they play "shít on a stick" football. The whole of Europe does.
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it seems I understand football a lot more than you. Just our back four and Coquelin you say. From what I saw and many other fans there were rather a lot of times when all our team were in our around our box defending, that is what you say Chelsea did.
A team who when attacking us had more players in our half than when we attacked them.
They were actually more positive than us from what a lot of people saw.
You go on and carry on thinking Chelsea parked the bus but they were just very good defensively and didn't have much problem against a team they found increasingly predictable
There is some positive change but that is more to do with the poor quality of Mutd and City and Liverpool this year. We have discovered a strong CDM but that is ONLY because Arteta has been injured. Arteta is our captain and will probably be back in for next year. We have such short memories - every year for the past 5 - 9 we have been knocked out of the Champions league, FA cup and title race. When there is no pressure we then go on a great run like now. What has changed is that we have won the FA cup and could do again but the mentality hasn't and I blame Wenger for that. I was at the Emirates and although we matched them in the first half we were woeful in the second half and could hardly get the ball off them. Wenger should have changed it 15 mins in- we all could see a change was needed but he is hopeless in changing tactics. I can see us scrambling for the top 4 for the next 2 years until Wenger goes. I felt sick when I knew Giroud was playing because I knew our whole build up play will be slow and predictable. We only win big games if we move the ball with 1 and 2 touch passing
There are some not blinkered on this board after all.
Chelsea fans hurting
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
I can't believe people singing boring Chelsea!? We need to learn how to control games - so far this year I can only think of about 4 games in which I was sure we were going to win - as Arsenal fans we know we. Can crumble at any moment take that game against Anderlecht and then Monaco??! Both those games were at home - I think we need to build a winning and attritional mentality - which I see in Coq and Sanchez but not enough of the others? That is why I despair because you can see the class and skill but we don't have the discipline to confidently grind out wins.
Obviously going to be deemed a wum but these are my actual opinions.
nope you have some sound points. I was disappointed in Sanchez for you as he gave the ball away in good positions way to often with bad decision making, but hes earnt you plenty so cant mug him off. Wenger is a weak spot for you as he cant change it up. Arsenal huffed and puffed for the first 25 mins but it was like breaking in a horse sooner or later they tire and give in Arsenal did that today. Another surprise was Giroud i mean come on hes a big guy but even Azpi was bossing him today he has no presence at all for his size, he needs to look at a Young Drogba and take notes.
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 26 minutes ago
Chelsea fans hurting
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
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Hurting? Only my ribs from laughing at some of you dipstick gooners
Azi was brilliant today, on several occasions I was just hoping he could show the attacker away from being an immediate threat and he just took the ball clean away to turn defense in to attack.
Chelsea had 2 banks of 4 defenders 5 meters apart when we attacked them. When chelsea attacked us they were mostly confronted by 4 defenders & Coquelin.
That just shows how badly organised your defence are and had we had a striker under 40 available would have finished you off today. Watching that game i found it as stressfull as watching coronation street every time Arsenal got the ball they just buzzed around in circles for a while then tried to slide it through the backs and gave it away. if as you say your Experts in this tactic youll also be aware that it certainly cannot Work against a team that defends Deep and narrow as Chelsea(i mean you all say it as if Chelsea are predictable, but you cant beat us so you must change it up and thats where Wenger flops because he has no plan b. Subbing one sprinter for another isnt a tactic, it suggests cluelessness. When arsenal where dangerous about 10 years ago you had some quick players but you also had intelligent players like Pires and Bergkamp not quick but knew how to change attacking intent. Now your just a bunch of sprinters with no football know how.
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
We knew we would get a point and hoped for 3 cant understand why we didnt bring izzy along for a half as then i think wed certainly have won.
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 35 minutes ago
Chelsea fans hurting
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
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Hurting?
Awful article from an awful 'fan'. Our first dropped points in almost two months and low and behold the 'Wenger out' morons come out in force.
Talking about our last 9 years as if we had a squad capable of beating Chelsea who spend a billion pounds. Embarrassingly clueless.
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 26 minutes ago
Awful article from an awful 'fan'. Our first dropped points in almost two months and low and behold the 'Wenger out' morons come out in force.
Talking about our last 9 years as if we had a squad capable of beating Chelsea who spend a billion pounds. Embarrassingly clueless.
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Didn't read the entire op as it went on a bit, but I get the feeling Arsenal fans actually feel they are a team back in contention for titles.
Well, you are not, you have various holes on your side and are no nearer challenging now than anytime the last ten years, sorry for the bad news.
Not a wum either so don't bang that drum, just the hard truth, get rid of Wenger and you will get there, keep him and you won't, it really is that simple.
I've wanted wenger gone for ages. We could have won today and I still wanted him gone.
I've even said this to people during the past 8 wins so no I've not waited for a negative result.
I don't mind not beating Chelsea. I want to at least trouble them though. We were incredibly average.
If you are happy with the way we played and happy to get the occasional rare win then that's your prerogative. I however would like to think we are an ambitious club who after 10 years of not winning the title and finish fourth every year would start to show some actual progress.
If it makes me an awful fan not wanting to live in mediocrity and actually start showing some ambition and progressive football then so be it
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posted on 26/4/15
posted on 26/4/15
It's obvious Feeo is leaving and Wengie doesn't want to play him in case he snaps again
posted on 26/4/15
As a neutral in peace...
I think you should sell the OP to Spurs.
posted on 26/4/15
Obviously going to be deemed a wum but these are my actual opinions.
I don't carr why people say. I love this club and I know it can be so much better than it is now. So yeah insult me, ban me etc I'm still a really loyal gooner who loves the club
posted on 26/4/15
Welbeck had a positive impact and showed why he should have started.
Wrong. He shouldnt have started the game. He showed against Reading why. And maybe you noticed he could have won this game when he came on.
posted on 26/4/15
Yes but you can't blame a player who was on for 15 mins for not winning the game when the other players who were on for 70-75 mins before him didn't create anything to trouble them.
Those are the players I criticise
posted on 26/4/15
When on the attack it felt to me like they could score while in contrast arsenal I felt Chelsea had it covered.
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The whole article is a load of rubbish but I thought I should respond to this bit as a way to help the OP understand football.
Chelsea had 2 banks of 4 defenders 5 meters apart when we attacked them. When chelsea attacked us they were mostly confronted by 4 defenders & Coquelin.
Go figure.
Chelsea fans seem to miss the point why they are labelled a boring team. It's not about how many goals they have scored or how many chances they had in the game. It's about their philosophy.
It's not just domestic fans who think they play "shít on a stick" football. The whole of Europe does.
posted on 26/4/15
I respect wenger for what he has done for our club and trust me I know he has done a lot. But our seasons could just be out on repeat under him now. There is no sign of proactive change.
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Not really true, we used to sell our players and buy cheap replacements and win nothing and now it's the opposite... so we have progressed a lot and will again next season
posted on 26/4/15
comment by internal solutions (U19964)
posted 2 minutes ago
I respect wenger for what he has done for our club and trust me I know he has done a lot. But our seasons could just be out on repeat under him now. There is no sign of proactive change.
------
Not really true, we used to sell our players and buy cheap replacements and win nothing and now it's the opposite... so we have progressed a lot and will again next season
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So wenger played Coquelin because he saw his potential or rather cause arteta and flaming were out... I think almost every arsenal fan knows the answer to that.
Wenger reacts to a problem after the problem occurs, a top class manager can foresee a problem occurring and will do something to prevent it happening.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 4 minutes ago
When on the attack it felt to me like they could score while in contrast arsenal I felt Chelsea had it covered.
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The whole article is a load of rubbish but I thought I should respond to this bit as a way to help the OP understand football.
Chelsea had 2 banks of 4 defenders 5 meters apart when we attacked them. When chelsea attacked us they were mostly confronted by 4 defenders & Coquelin.
Go figure.
Chelsea fans seem to miss the point why they are labelled a boring team. It's not about how many goals they have scored or how many chances they had in the game. It's about their philosophy.
It's not just domestic fans who think they play "shít on a stick" football. The whole of Europe does.
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it seems I understand football a lot more than you. Just our back four and Coquelin you say. From what I saw and many other fans there were rather a lot of times when all our team were in our around our box defending, that is what you say Chelsea did.
A team who when attacking us had more players in our half than when we attacked them.
They were actually more positive than us from what a lot of people saw.
You go on and carry on thinking Chelsea parked the bus but they were just very good defensively and didn't have much problem against a team they found increasingly predictable
posted on 26/4/15
There is some positive change but that is more to do with the poor quality of Mutd and City and Liverpool this year. We have discovered a strong CDM but that is ONLY because Arteta has been injured. Arteta is our captain and will probably be back in for next year. We have such short memories - every year for the past 5 - 9 we have been knocked out of the Champions league, FA cup and title race. When there is no pressure we then go on a great run like now. What has changed is that we have won the FA cup and could do again but the mentality hasn't and I blame Wenger for that. I was at the Emirates and although we matched them in the first half we were woeful in the second half and could hardly get the ball off them. Wenger should have changed it 15 mins in- we all could see a change was needed but he is hopeless in changing tactics. I can see us scrambling for the top 4 for the next 2 years until Wenger goes. I felt sick when I knew Giroud was playing because I knew our whole build up play will be slow and predictable. We only win big games if we move the ball with 1 and 2 touch passing
posted on 26/4/15
There are some not blinkered on this board after all.
posted on 26/4/15
Chelsea fans hurting
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
posted on 26/4/15
I can't believe people singing boring Chelsea!? We need to learn how to control games - so far this year I can only think of about 4 games in which I was sure we were going to win - as Arsenal fans we know we. Can crumble at any moment take that game against Anderlecht and then Monaco??! Both those games were at home - I think we need to build a winning and attritional mentality - which I see in Coq and Sanchez but not enough of the others? That is why I despair because you can see the class and skill but we don't have the discipline to confidently grind out wins.
posted on 26/4/15
b10 clutching at straws
posted on 26/4/15
Obviously going to be deemed a wum but these are my actual opinions.
nope you have some sound points. I was disappointed in Sanchez for you as he gave the ball away in good positions way to often with bad decision making, but hes earnt you plenty so cant mug him off. Wenger is a weak spot for you as he cant change it up. Arsenal huffed and puffed for the first 25 mins but it was like breaking in a horse sooner or later they tire and give in Arsenal did that today. Another surprise was Giroud i mean come on hes a big guy but even Azpi was bossing him today he has no presence at all for his size, he needs to look at a Young Drogba and take notes.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 26 minutes ago
Chelsea fans hurting
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
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Hurting? Only my ribs from laughing at some of you dipstick gooners
posted on 26/4/15
Azi was brilliant today, on several occasions I was just hoping he could show the attacker away from being an immediate threat and he just took the ball clean away to turn defense in to attack.
posted on 26/4/15
Chelsea had 2 banks of 4 defenders 5 meters apart when we attacked them. When chelsea attacked us they were mostly confronted by 4 defenders & Coquelin.
That just shows how badly organised your defence are and had we had a striker under 40 available would have finished you off today. Watching that game i found it as stressfull as watching coronation street every time Arsenal got the ball they just buzzed around in circles for a while then tried to slide it through the backs and gave it away. if as you say your Experts in this tactic youll also be aware that it certainly cannot Work against a team that defends Deep and narrow as Chelsea(i mean you all say it as if Chelsea are predictable, but you cant beat us so you must change it up and thats where Wenger flops because he has no plan b. Subbing one sprinter for another isnt a tactic, it suggests cluelessness. When arsenal where dangerous about 10 years ago you had some quick players but you also had intelligent players like Pires and Bergkamp not quick but knew how to change attacking intent. Now your just a bunch of sprinters with no football know how.
posted on 26/4/15
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
We knew we would get a point and hoped for 3 cant understand why we didnt bring izzy along for a half as then i think wed certainly have won.
posted on 26/4/15
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 35 minutes ago
Chelsea fans hurting
Even Terry was humble in his delight at getting a point but "boring boring chelsea" has hit a nerve
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Hurting?
posted on 26/4/15
Awful article from an awful 'fan'. Our first dropped points in almost two months and low and behold the 'Wenger out' morons come out in force.
Talking about our last 9 years as if we had a squad capable of beating Chelsea who spend a billion pounds. Embarrassingly clueless.
posted on 27/4/15
comment by The Godfather (U10154)
posted 26 minutes ago
Awful article from an awful 'fan'. Our first dropped points in almost two months and low and behold the 'Wenger out' morons come out in force.
Talking about our last 9 years as if we had a squad capable of beating Chelsea who spend a billion pounds. Embarrassingly clueless.
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posted on 27/4/15
Didn't read the entire op as it went on a bit, but I get the feeling Arsenal fans actually feel they are a team back in contention for titles.
Well, you are not, you have various holes on your side and are no nearer challenging now than anytime the last ten years, sorry for the bad news.
Not a wum either so don't bang that drum, just the hard truth, get rid of Wenger and you will get there, keep him and you won't, it really is that simple.
posted on 27/4/15
I've wanted wenger gone for ages. We could have won today and I still wanted him gone.
I've even said this to people during the past 8 wins so no I've not waited for a negative result.
I don't mind not beating Chelsea. I want to at least trouble them though. We were incredibly average.
If you are happy with the way we played and happy to get the occasional rare win then that's your prerogative. I however would like to think we are an ambitious club who after 10 years of not winning the title and finish fourth every year would start to show some actual progress.
If it makes me an awful fan not wanting to live in mediocrity and actually start showing some ambition and progressive football then so be it
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