comment by WHL Lifer #2 (U9994)
posted 45 seconds ago
True you don't have to sell but do you want a cancer around your squad ? Liverpool will sell him no question.
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Bet you said the same about Suarez 2 years ago.

Sterling is not like Suarez. With the latter even when his future was majorly in question and he wanted out he would still run around like a madman working his bolllocks off. Sterling will just sulk and cry he is tired.

comment by Neo Liverpool (U9135)
posted 7 seconds ago
Sterling is not like Suarez. With the latter even when his future was majorly in question and he wanted out he would still run around like a madman working his bolllocks off. Sterling will just sulk and cry he is tired.
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He won't because he wants to play at the Euros. Which, given a fully fit Sturridge, Rooney, Walcott and Kane, he needs to be playing, and playing well, to do.

But this also neglects Rodgers' influence on the team in these big games.

Sterling has played well against big teams, as have Liverpool, but overall Liverpool have kept falling short.

Now, consider Sterling playing for Mourinho who is arguably the biggest game manager around. I think you would likely see better performances.

Its a good point about the Euros Igor, even if he is really annoyed he would want to get into the squad and would need to perform at least decently to do so.

Igor Sterling providing 7/10 performances will not lead Liverpool to CL qualification or trophies, Sterling playing at a 9 or a 10 doesn't guarantee it but playing at a 7 certainly wouldn't (unless you had a very talented bunch of teammates, which I think is the whole point of him moving)

If forced to stay Sterling might do the same as Suarez, knuckle down and turn in some performances worthy of his undoubted talent. It's a definite possibility.

However the the only real evidence we have to go on is his form since the contract issues started. It's been woeful.

So yes, he could look at the Euros and perform for Liverpool but would anyone bet on it? From what we've seen to date, I wouldn't.

Sterling will have to hand in a transfer request to move.

Even then the buying club will have to pay what we want.

The way we dealt with the Suarez sale has stood us in good stead. Clubs know we won't sell on the cheap.

Most on here were saying we'd get £25m for him tops. We're over that level with the initial bid.

Keep going

comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 2 minutes ago
Its a good point about the Euros Igor, even if he is really annoyed he would want to get into the squad and would need to perform at least decently to do so.

Igor Sterling providing 7/10 performances will not lead Liverpool to CL qualification or trophies, Sterling playing at a 9 or a 10 doesn't guarantee it but playing at a 7 certainly wouldn't (unless you had a very talented bunch of teammates, which I think is the whole point of him moving)
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So you don't think that Sterling and his team mates giving 7/10 performances against Basle, Ludogorets and Villa would result in wins? I'm not saying we'd have won the Champions League or FA Cup, but beating those teams should be bread and butter for us.

And I'm certainly not saying that Sterling is the sole reason of our issues. We have far bigger problems. However, if he views himself so far above everyone else at the club, then he should have been able to at least perform respectably in spite of what's going on around him. You know, like Gerrard, for the best part of 2 decades, Suarez and Torres did.

I don't think Sterling alone putting in 7/10 performances would have qualified you from the group stages, not even sure it would have beaten Villa.

If everyone in the team played better than yeah its a possibility for sure, but it isn't your whole team leaving for CL and to win trophies, just Sterling. Mainly because he's going to struggle for trophies and CL at Liverpool (or at least that's what he thinks) whereas at one of the top 4 even if he does put average performances in then those things are much more likely.

Igor, just because a player wants to leave doesn't mean he views himself as far and above everyone at the club. Maybe he views himself as being good enough to play for clubs above Liverpool, which many believe he is, and those clubs apparently do as well, so a move is a step forward in his career.

"So you don't think that Sterling and his team mates giving 7/10..."

Come on SAF you're deliberately twisting what I'm saying now. I'm saying that if you don't perform yourself, you can hardly complain about those around you not performing.

And Darren, for his Agent to say he wouldn't sign for 900k a week shows that he thinks he is above the club. The general attitude of Sterling and his awful agent has been one of arrogance throughout this whole thing.

Sorry Igor didn't think I was twisting your words tbh.

I don't think its the performances of his teammates he was criticising, I don't think it was his intention to criticise anybody he just pointed out rather than money he wanted to win stuff (with the implication being he had more chance at a different club)

He didn't set the world alight last year, but many players at his level of ability will enjoy trophies and CL even if they aren't necessarily performing fantastically well that season. TBH he shouldn't need to be the one who drives Liverpool to those trophies by performing fantastically well and realistically there isn't all that much chance of it happening without him performing fantastically well...

Because even if you had beaten Villa then you would have played an on form Arsenal side who managed to thrash Villa.

Average performances from Sterling also wouldn't have made up the gap to top 4.

It's hard to gauge a player's actual thoughts based on the words of their agents, most agents are caaants.

We'll just have to wait and see how this all pans out. Anyway, I'm off, night.

Night fella

comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 9 hours, 9 minutes ago
Internal....I dont think anyone minds if a player wants to win trophies at another club. What they might mind is a player who's had the opportunity to get to cup finals, to get out of the cl group stage and whos bottled it every time then moans he wants to leave to win trophies.

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I guess it is easier to blame sterling than look at the other member of the squa that flopp d in the CL, EL and league?

If his performances were so critical, maybe it's time to be less reliant on a 20 year old lad

Pellegrini never said sterling was worth a £10 Ffs

Liverpool fans make up a lot of nonsense

Red in the head glad you saw this thread, lpool fans saying sterling was garbage last season 👀. Which he was.

comment by Stretty - Mata is the Juan (U3123)
posted 7 minutes ago
Pellegrini never said sterling was worth a £10 Ffs

Liverpool fans make up a lot of nonsense

Red in the head glad you saw this thread, lpool fans saying sterling was garbage last season 👀. Which he was.
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He was our best player until January. Some Liverpool fans have erased that from memory after he made it clear he wanted to leave. Seven goals and seven assists. Not many older players bettered that, never mind ones his age.

Hes a £15m pound player, in this climate £30m is reasonable.

Only question that needs asking is in his position will he improve City?
For me he will,we lack pace out wide ( navas is atrocious so ignoring him) and I think the move will be a good one for both parties

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He was our best player until January. Some Liverpool fans have erased that from memory after he made it clear he wanted to leave. Seven goals and seven assists. Not many older players bettered that, never mind ones his age.

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I don't blame people for erasing that little matter. He's been progressing really well until the moment Brendan went public with the contract offer.

OK it was an honest answer to an honest question but I feel Brendan could have simply said that negotiations were on going.

One thing that really concerns me about Rodgers is his naivety and his apparent inability to learn from what worked at Liverpool in the past and from his own experiences. This season is the last chance saloon for his career IMO.

As for Raheem I fail to see how he has any love for the club at all. Because at this stage he should have put pen to paper and shown some loyalty to the club that has brought him to the fore.

That's a bridge that's been burnt obviously so it's time for him to go and take his wretched agent with him.

comment by Paulpowersleftfoot #votedave (U1037)
posted 29 minutes ago
Only question that needs asking is in his position will he improve City?
For me he will,we lack pace out wide ( navas is atrocious so ignoring him) and I think the move will be a good one for both parties
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You do realise you haven't signed him, don't you?

ARE.

The bottom line is: none of us know for sure why there was such a catastrophic breakdown in communications between Sterling/Rodgers/Ward/FSG. Clearly, the club's PR department are trying to place the blame squarely on Ward's shoulders but I don't think he would of reacted so vociferously unless he was provoked in some way.
It's certainly not just a case of money, as the media and the sheep want us to believe.
Sterling himself said that if he'd've been offered the contract a year ago, he would've signed it. IMO therefore, it boils down to the club's lack of ambition. It's a same reason Torres and Suarez left previously. And it's the same reason Coutinho will leave next year.

comment by Samir - #WengerOutSince2011 (U2630)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot #votedave (U1037)
posted 29 minutes ago
Only question that needs asking is in his position will he improve City?
For me he will,we lack pace out wide ( navas is atrocious so ignoring him) and I think the move will be a good one for both parties
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You do realise you haven't signed him, don't you?
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where have i suggested we had?

Navas was the second coming when you signed him, hes always been chit tbf, he needs to go back to sevilla.

One thing that really concerns me about Rodgers is his naivety and his apparent inability to learn from what worked at Liverpool in the past and from his own experiences

in fairness to br it hasnt worked well at livepool for the last 25 years so he probs wanted to try something different.