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posted on 2/9/15

Best response possible, hard to disagree with any of it

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posted on 2/9/15

No doubt Peace will send another tweet update blaming everyone but himself and annoying the player at the same time.

Anyone else get the feeling Berahino might get one of those niggly injuries that are hard to diagnose? No need to go on strike when you get one of those

posted on 2/9/15

I love mopo saying he does not agree with one striker and prefers a fluid system.

Since when!?always had a rigid narrow 4-2-3-1 with the aim to keep possession and the space on the pitch centrally lol. Never played anything else in his managerial career!

Unless he has had an epiphany we are in deep because other than Kane there is no one in this squad gonna bail out his tactical naivety.

The attacking transfers in Njie and son are shambolic for the system we play.

By November we will have a new head coach by January we will be spending massive on overpriced premier league quality by a new sporting director because we will be vastly behind the Europa places.

I will happily stop blasting poch if he starts to use some youngsters and you know actually develops them. twitters going mad for dier at dcm after one good game yet if anyone cared to check..... In Portugal he had a failed period at dcm and then spent the rest of the time as sub centre back before then joining us.

with such a small squad I want to see poch develop the players he can have no excuse not to.

posted on 2/9/15

Has Poch slept with your sister or something LLM?

Just wondering as you only ever seem to come on and slag him off these days

posted on 2/9/15

I barely post on ja606 these days, but occasionally read posters' views. One common theme is LLM's constant criticism of Poch, sometimes justified. But this latest post has frustrated me to the point of contributing, because it is biased and untrue.

'I will happily stop blasting poch if he starts to use some youngsters'.
A) Ryan Mason.
B) Eric Dier.
C) Dele Alli.
D) Alex Pritchard.

Pochettino is giving our talented youngsters a chance which managers such as AVB and Redknapp never would. There are certainly criticisms to be made of Poch but giving youth a chance is not one of them.

Looklikemodric: I have often respected your opinion more than most of the emotional/fickle posters on here, but please try to think logically before critiquing our manager on entirely personal grounds. COYS.

posted on 2/9/15

Look like Modric

I totally disagree

No way will we have a new coach in Jan. Bookmark this.

I don't know why you have such a hatred towards Poch, we finished 5th last season and got to a cup final. Do you honestly expect us to finish higher when the clubs above us are spending hundreds of millions each season?? We aint going to be finishing top four until we have moved into our new stadium with a sixty odd thousand capacity that will increase match day revenue thus allowing us to eventually pay higher wages to attract the big name players.

Please don't say it was Just Kane that got us 5th last season. Kane didn't just magically develop into a top striker that scored 31 goals just through his own talent and hard work. Surely Poch and the coaching staff had a huge hand in his development.

You also say that Poch should be using the youngsters and actually develops them - Kane was used and developed, Mason was given a chance and Bentaleb who was given his chance by Sherwood was a regular starter under Poch.
Dier is playing dm (rather well despite your criticism) another player that Poch has stated that he believes in and wants in his team. you mention that he failed at cdm in Portugal i think he was only 19 or 20 then and he has certainly improved and developed since then. By the way when we first signed Dier you said that he was bought for the development squad, only to become a near regular throughout the season in the 1st team.

Maybe he will be the outstanding cb that you thought Livermore was going to be.

Allí has been involved in every game so far. Pritchard made the bench after recovering from injury and made his debut last Sat.

Finally regarding the purchases of Son and Clinton, how do you know that they are shambolic for the system we play?? You have never seen them play for us so how can you make such assumptions at this early stage??

Please gladly come back in a few months time if Poch has been sacked, we have a new sporting director, Poch ditches Dier, Mason, Bentaleb, Alli, and Pritchard all youngsters he seemingly isn't giving a chance to and Son and N'jie are a huge flop.

If thats the case i will offer you a full apology.

Ps if we Sack Poch by November who would you want in?? Wont the new coach want his own players so we have to start over again???

posted on 2/9/15

posted on 2/9/15

It would appear LLM has his own little vendetta going on re Poch?

Certainly his comments are vitriolic and are not backed up by credible facts. He claims to have inside knowledge, is this first hand or third hand pass me down information from a friend's sister's cousin?

posted on 2/9/15

I never rated Poch, was fuming when we hired him, and still don't like him.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 2/9/15

Where in that response did it say why we left it until after the season started to make a move on forward signings?

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 2/9/15

I love how Levy apologises for being "ambitious".

How is leaving your squad with 1 striker being ambitious? FFS if he was so ambitious he'd have stumped up the money for a player the manager clearly wanted.

posted on 2/9/15

If what they are saying is true then fair enough. Don't want to full the squad with more fazio and stamboulI types that will need to be cleared out again. Leaves no excuse for streamlining and clearing the deadwood next summer though. Will have to go straight for the no.1 targets, early doors. This time next year Rodders

comment by aries22 (U1203)

posted on 3/9/15

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 5 hours ago
I love how Levy apologises for being "ambitious".
How is leaving your squad with 1 striker being ambitious? FFS if he was so ambitious he'd have stumped up the money for a player the manager clearly wanted.
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And, just as importantly, in good time for Albion to buy a replacement, not with 60 minutes of a three-month transfer window remaining, and after Levy first spoke to Peace in May.

posted on 3/9/15

@LLM

- Poch has identified the defence as a problem and it's been sorted with the signings of Alderweireld, Trippier and Wimmer.

- Why doesn't N'jie and Son fit the system? Are they not footballers with qualities we've been lacking? Or have we bought a couple cheerleaders? Have you seen them play 30 seconds in a Spurs shirt?

- Poch has used many youths. Alli most notably has been brought in and done well when involved. Pritchard got game time too and would have had more if it wasn't for the injury he suffered. Dier has been given a position to develop instead of sitting on the bench behind Walker/ Tripper at RB or Alderweireld/ Vertonghen at CB.

- Yes, we never managed to bring in a striker but since when did Poch or any manager in fact get involved with negotiations. Have you not said many times that there's some sort of committee for these decisions. At least Poch has been sensible and told Levy "Get me these players and if you can't then don't bother buying the unwanted alternative". Do we want a turnover of players every season or two because we bought them to please fans temporarily?

- We have played some good football this season. The finishing has let us down in games especially Everton. What more can Poch do when Kane misses a one-on-one? He isn't playing real life FIFA with a controller on the bench.

- We finished 5th last season and lost to the league champions in the cup final. That's what the majority of fans would have considered as a good/ relatively successful season for a club which doesn't have the same financial freedom as the teams above.

- Getting sacked in January is more wishful thinking on your part rather than a justified opinion. He has done nothing to merit losing his job. Every manager has some tactical flaws some more than others including the likes of Mourinho and Guardiola but ultimately those managers have much better players that win matches. You can't say guys like AVB and Poch were saved by Bale or Kane because every good team has that. Madrid and their likes instead have 2, 3 or 4 Bales and Kane's in any one line-up.


Don't take this post too personal, I just clearly think what you wrote earlier was nonsense.

posted on 3/9/15

Well now, is that alot of hot air blowing out of Levy's arse?
A few weeks we'll know for sure. The club is lower half table ATM.

comment by aries22 (U1203)

posted on 3/9/15

Watch out for the follow-through.

comment by GOODBYE (U1029)

posted on 3/9/15

LLM got a hangover today?

posted on 3/9/15

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
I love how Levy apologises for being "ambitious".

How is leaving your squad with 1 striker being ambitious? FFS if he was so ambitious he'd have stumped up the money for a player the manager clearly wanted.
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He is showing long term ambition by producing a state of the art 61,000 seater stadium and training facility. This is real ambition and was how I read Daniel Levy's statement.


posted on 3/9/15

Anyone else get the feeling Berahino might get one of those niggly injuries that are hard to diagnose? No need to go on strike when you get one of those
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Classy...

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 3/9/15

comment by Islington Spur (U18857)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
I love how Levy apologises for being "ambitious".

How is leaving your squad with 1 striker being ambitious? FFS if he was so ambitious he'd have stumped up the money for a player the manager clearly wanted.
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He is showing long term ambition by producing a state of the art 61,000 seater stadium and training facility. This is real ambition and was how I read Daniel Levy's statement.



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We all know about the building of the stadium, and that's all well and good, but it's moot regarding getting a striker in, or getting Berahino in. If he was indeed a "key target" as suggested in the second paragraph of the response, why would you try to acquire him through what looks like a half hearted approach, by offering bids below the desired price, and leaving it so late in the transfer window?

It's the same with the other 2 forward signings to an extent. Why would you sign them after the season starts, when we could have done with them before the season started?

posted on 3/9/15

comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Islington Spur (U18857)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
I love how Levy apologises for being "ambitious".

How is leaving your squad with 1 striker being ambitious? FFS if he was so ambitious he'd have stumped up the money for a player the manager clearly wanted.
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He is showing long term ambition by producing a state of the art 61,000 seater stadium and training facility. This is real ambition and was how I read Daniel Levy's statement.



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We all know about the building of the stadium, and that's all well and good, but it's moot regarding getting a striker in, or getting Berahino in. If he was indeed a "key target" as suggested in the second paragraph of the response, why would you try to acquire him through what looks like a half hearted approach, by offering bids below the desired price, and leaving it so late in the transfer window?

It's the same with the other 2 forward signings to an extent. Why would you sign them after the season starts, when we could have done with them before the season started?
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Soldado was transferred to Villarreal on the 18th August. My guess is that we were never going to buy N'jie and Son before a striker was sold. We concluded our business once Soldado deal had been confirmed. The truth is we don't now how long negotiations take place but these are peoples careers and huge amounts of money are being pushed around. You really can't rush these things hence why we are left short at the beginning of the season.
Considering these complications I think we are a well run institution. Although I understand your frustrations things could be a lot worse. Irving Scholar nearly bankrupt us don't you know!

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 3/9/15

comment by Islington Spur (U18857)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Islington Spur (U18857)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
I love how Levy apologises for being "ambitious".

How is leaving your squad with 1 striker being ambitious? FFS if he was so ambitious he'd have stumped up the money for a player the manager clearly wanted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He is showing long term ambition by producing a state of the art 61,000 seater stadium and training facility. This is real ambition and was how I read Daniel Levy's statement.



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We all know about the building of the stadium, and that's all well and good, but it's moot regarding getting a striker in, or getting Berahino in. If he was indeed a "key target" as suggested in the second paragraph of the response, why would you try to acquire him through what looks like a half hearted approach, by offering bids below the desired price, and leaving it so late in the transfer window?

It's the same with the other 2 forward signings to an extent. Why would you sign them after the season starts, when we could have done with them before the season started?
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Soldado was transferred to Villarreal on the 18th August. My guess is that we were never going to buy N'jie and Son before a striker was sold. We concluded our business once Soldado deal had been confirmed. The truth is we don't now how long negotiations take place but these are peoples careers and huge amounts of money are being pushed around. You really can't rush these things hence why we are left short at the beginning of the season.
Considering these complications I think we are a well run institution. Although I understand your frustrations things could be a lot worse. Irving Scholar nearly bankrupt us don't you know!
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If we are going to wait to sell players before we make a move for others, and I don't think it's that believable an excuse (didn't we bring in most of our defensive targets before moving others on?), then we need to consider being better at it, because in my opinion it's contributed to the points dropped or not gained from this season's start.

There was an awfully long gap between when we brought in the defenders, to when we sold Soldado and brought in the forwards. Too long a gap.

posted on 3/9/15

Listen boys I've stated it time and time again I have seen this before at Spurs we buy the best scout or the best youth coach then mess it all about. Repeat and rinse.

I have no vendetta against poch none I actually like him he is really friendly. He does more charity work for the club than I have ever seen anyone do. (Not that the media would show you that)

My problem is professionally I get wound up cos all I ever see is defending him yet the points I make are never really debated. Therefore it makes me want to criticise more because everyone defends him.

I do genuinely believe he will not last the season because I can see the way we are playing. In the last game at Everton the players stopped being so disciplined in the tactics that's a tell-tell sign the discipline is slipping. I also had a good chat with a few of the youth teams family (there's people that hold. Lot of footballing weight there they know there stuff and even they are critiquing bad when they should tow the club line)

I'm not pretending to be Alex Ferguson but I do hold footballing badges what I see on the pitch is not right. I can see the shape, the same mistakes the lack of changes etc.

It ain't personal I haven't said I don't like pochs face it is professional on that pitch.

Sorry if I irritated anyone.

Just apologise when I'm proved right hahahaha

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