Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
Afridi14 (U2805)
U2 (U20610)
------------------------------------------
Guys, are you Muslims?
How do you justify the attack on Kenyan University then by Al Shabab? Is it because of Western policy?
How about the more than 200 school girls kidnapped by Boko Haram in Nigeria and forced to convert to Islam? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
Was 9/11 a result of Western policy on Iraq?
Why is the USA referred to as the Great Satan? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
You can defend all you want. But if any man can go this length to practice a religion, then that said religion is an occult. By their fruit you shall know them.
If a religion is peaceful, it will bring forth peaceful fruits. and vice versa.
posted 59 seconds ago
And this is where I will leave you. Ignorant, racist bigots can be so entrenched with their views.
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Good riddance. Call others are racists when you are mocking certain groups.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
Afridi14 (U2805)
U2 (U20610)
------------------------------------------
Guys, are you Muslims?
How do you justify the attack on Kenyan University then by Al Shabab? Is it because of Western policy?
How about the more than 200 school girls kidnapped by Boko Haram in Nigeria and forced to convert to Islam? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
Was 9/11 a result of Western policy on Iraq?
Why is the USA referred to as the Great Satan? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
You can defend all you want. But if any man can go this length to practice a religion, then that said religion is an occult. By their fruit you shall know them.
If a religion is peaceful, it will bring forth peaceful fruits. and vice versa.
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Exactly
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by U2 (U20610)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 3 minutes ago
My forefathers are from Pakistan. I am British as anyone on here and proud to be so.next?
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You don't have any allegiance to Queen and Country.
You may be born here, you could be classed as a traitor because you defend the acts of those bent on merciless destruction of everything we stand for.
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Maybe you should be sent somewhere for holding your medieval views? It's only fair.
Intolerance isn't something to be championed.
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the freedom you enjoy today living in the country was fought for by those loyal to KING & COUNTRY. But this concept of loyalty is strange to you hence you think it is a medieval view.
I am British and am loyal to Queen and Country.
Maybe you can go live elsewhere if you can't be ar sed about this country.
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I cant believe you really believe this. Its frightening.
Here goes manchini again. What a moron... Completely and utterly irrelevant if I'm Muslim or not. These issues are political and not religious that's the point. These lunatics need eradicating by all- regardless of faith colour and creed. You just don't get it do you? Do you realise that these atrocities happen every other day across the world??? Or have you just woken up?
It should not matter whether or not I am a Muslim for this discussion, so I won't answer.
Nobody is pretending that radical Islam isn't a problem. We're just trying to introduce nuance to xenophobic views and preaching peace over war.
'ridiculous tribalism'?... oh the fecking irony.
Would you be 'loyal' to an 'elected' head of state? Or should we all just hope that we all just 'get on' with each other?
comment by Old Castle Swifts (U8613)
posted 1 minute ago
So western intervention because of mass murder in syria means we deserve to have bloodbaths on the streets of Europe
---
Shut the fack up idiot. Blaming the entire west for their own miserable failures and infighting between the different cults is not going to get any sympathy.
What Brazil and Japan have done? Why did their citizens got blown up and beheaded? You don't have any reasonable answers, do you?
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fack u
the bloodbath in europe was one example u cant
these animals don't care who they kill to make their point.
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 18 minutes ago
The OP should of said Radical Islam in the title. Then the answer would be that there is a small risk. Even if they attack the small scale of the attacks kills a handfull of people in cities of millions.
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Your point about it being a few is irrelevant, Hitler was one man, look at the atrocities he did, things always start of with a handful of people but the effects can be huge on society.
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
____________
Here comes another professor educated by the daily Star... Goodness gracious me
And those saying that it's Bush and Blair that caused all this radicalisation, crap, what's that got to do with the stuff happening in Africa right now?
These guys all stick together and are being sponsored by those in Saudi and other muslim countries, so if you want to stay ignorant and say it's just because of foreign policy, go ahead!
________________
pp, what do you know about foreign policies in Africa and the unending riches to be plundered there as long as its countries are kept down?
To a greater or lesser degree, nearly all of the conflicts there are at least in part fuelled by the fight to control vast oil reserves, super-conductors essential to all modern weaponry and most of our current technologies, as well as a long list of other blood minerals, arms sales, geostrategic interests, Western military presence in many African countries, the ethnic segregation fuelled by colonial powers and the appalling mess they left behind, ongoing corporate bribery of corrupt regimes supported by Western powers and their ongoing exploitation of entire nations...
The people subjected to all of this and those descended from them who have to listen every day on the bus to the ignorant utterings of utter morons like weare and mancini are far more peaceful than you care to realise.
comment by heisenberg... (U4832)
posted 1 minute ago
'ridiculous tribalism'?... oh the fecking irony.
Would you be 'loyal' to an 'elected' head of state? Or should we all just hope that we all just 'get on' with each other?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not sure I would be loyal to much that didn't deserve it. I am not a dog. Nonetheless, an elected head of state at least has a democratic mandate to rule and thus deserves more deference than someone who fell out of a fortuitous vä gina.
Peace is a complex process that is achieved best when people understand each other. That requires using our brains before using our trigger fingers.
the excuses for mass murder on here explain why incidents in Paris happen
All i'm hearing on this thread they did this and they did that and this is why this is happening, pathetic excuses for the mass murder of innocent civilians
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
____________
Here comes another professor educated by the daily Star... Goodness gracious me
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Goodness gracious? What a 🔔🔚 😂
comment by The fackin Gaffer-Pranksteroflove-angry-dragon (U6283)
posted 1 minute ago
the excuses for mass murder on here explain why incidents in Paris happen
All i'm hearing on this thread they did this and they did that and this is why this is happening, pathetic excuses for the mass murder of innocent civilians
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 seconds ago
And those saying that it's Bush and Blair that caused all this radicalisation, crap, what's that got to do with the stuff happening in Africa right now?
These guys all stick together and are being sponsored by those in Saudi and other muslim countries, so if you want to stay ignorant and say it's just because of foreign policy, go ahead!
________________
pp, what do you know about foreign policies in Africa and the unending riches to be plundered there as long as its countries are kept down?
To a greater or lesser degree, nearly all of the conflicts there are at least in part fuelled by the fight to control vast oil reserves, super-conductors essential to all modern weaponry and most of our current technologies, as well as a long list of other blood minerals, arms sales, geostrategic interests, Western military presence in many African countries, the ethnic segregation fuelled by colonial powers and the appalling mess they left behind, ongoing corporate bribery of corrupt regimes supported by Western powers and their ongoing exploitation of entire nations...
The people subjected to all of this and those descended from them who have to listen every day on the bus to the ignorant utterings of utter morons like weare and mancini are far more peaceful than you care to realise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know quiet a bit actually and much more than you. and yes there are issues caused by colonial/slavery history , but these issues in Nigeria don't have to do with the West.
This is my issue on this subject, people always try and put the blame on something or someone else. Some people are just plain evil, but go ahead and continue justifying these atrocities
comment by Passion Power -I'm a .....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 seconds ago
And those saying that it's Bush and Blair that caused all this radicalisation, crap, what's that got to do with the stuff happening in Africa right now?
These guys all stick together and are being sponsored by those in Saudi and other muslim countries, so if you want to stay ignorant and say it's just because of foreign policy, go ahead!
________________
pp, what do you know about foreign policies in Africa and the unending riches to be plundered there as long as its countries are kept down?
To a greater or lesser degree, nearly all of the conflicts there are at least in part fuelled by the fight to control vast oil reserves, super-conductors essential to all modern weaponry and most of our current technologies, as well as a long list of other blood minerals, arms sales, geostrategic interests, Western military presence in many African countries, the ethnic segregation fuelled by colonial powers and the appalling mess they left behind, ongoing corporate bribery of corrupt regimes supported by Western powers and their ongoing exploitation of entire nations...
The people subjected to all of this and those descended from them who have to listen every day on the bus to the ignorant utterings of utter morons like weare and mancini are far more peaceful than you care to realise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know quiet a bit actually and much more than you. and yes there are issues caused by colonial/slavery history , but these issues in Nigeria don't have to do with the West.
This is my issue on this subject, people always try and put the blame on something or someone else. Some people are just plain evil, but go ahead and continue justifying these atrocities
----------------------------------------------------------------------
correct, playing the blame game doesn't get you anywhere
this is just plain mass murder committed by religious nutters.
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 6 minutes ago
Here goes manchini again. What a moron... Completely and utterly irrelevant if I'm Muslim or not. These issues are political and not religious that's the point. These lunatics need eradicating by all- regardless of faith colour and creed. You just don't get it do you? Do you realise that these atrocities happen every other day across the world??? Or have you just woken up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I think we are on the same page.
Blaming all these atrocities on Western policies is what really gets to me. Not defending the policies, But also i don't want anyone to justify these atrocities.
The fallout of these types of atrocities will be felt more by normal Muslims going about their business.
It's not about blame, it's about understanding enough to untangle the knots and actually effect long term change to try and stop future attacks.
The best way to defeat your enemy is to make them your friend.
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 14 minutes ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
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Sometimes you're a massive idiot.
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 6 minutes ago
Here goes manchini again. What a moron... Completely and utterly irrelevant if I'm Muslim or not. These issues are political and not religious that's the point. These lunatics need eradicating by all- regardless of faith colour and creed. You just don't get it do you? Do you realise that these atrocities happen every other day across the world??? Or have you just woken up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I think we are on the same page.
Blaming all these atrocities on Western policies is what really gets to me. Not defending the policies, But also i don't want anyone to justify these atrocities.
The fallout of these types of atrocities will be felt more by normal Muslims going about their business.
______________________
Agree.
It's about blame. Blaming the Muslims who committed this atrocity
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 14 minutes ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
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Sometimes you're a massive idiot.
________________
Massive idiot. That's a bit kind tbh
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
It's not about blame, it's about understanding enough to untangle the knots and actually effect long term change to try and stop future attacks.
The best way to defeat your enemy is to make them your friend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really
these people want to destroy our way of life, they don't want us to be alive let alone their friends
they want their religion to be the only religion in the land and all non believers to be outcasts.
friends, I don't think so.
Is Islam a huge threat to our lives?.
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posted on 14/11/15
Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
Afridi14 (U2805)
U2 (U20610)
------------------------------------------
Guys, are you Muslims?
How do you justify the attack on Kenyan University then by Al Shabab? Is it because of Western policy?
How about the more than 200 school girls kidnapped by Boko Haram in Nigeria and forced to convert to Islam? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
Was 9/11 a result of Western policy on Iraq?
Why is the USA referred to as the Great Satan? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
You can defend all you want. But if any man can go this length to practice a religion, then that said religion is an occult. By their fruit you shall know them.
If a religion is peaceful, it will bring forth peaceful fruits. and vice versa.
posted on 14/11/15
posted 59 seconds ago
And this is where I will leave you. Ignorant, racist bigots can be so entrenched with their views.
---
Good riddance. Call others are racists when you are mocking certain groups.
posted on 14/11/15
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
Afridi14 (U2805)
U2 (U20610)
------------------------------------------
Guys, are you Muslims?
How do you justify the attack on Kenyan University then by Al Shabab? Is it because of Western policy?
How about the more than 200 school girls kidnapped by Boko Haram in Nigeria and forced to convert to Islam? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
Was 9/11 a result of Western policy on Iraq?
Why is the USA referred to as the Great Satan? Is this the result of Western policy on Iraq?
You can defend all you want. But if any man can go this length to practice a religion, then that said religion is an occult. By their fruit you shall know them.
If a religion is peaceful, it will bring forth peaceful fruits. and vice versa.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly
posted on 14/11/15
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by U2 (U20610)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 3 minutes ago
My forefathers are from Pakistan. I am British as anyone on here and proud to be so.next?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You don't have any allegiance to Queen and Country.
You may be born here, you could be classed as a traitor because you defend the acts of those bent on merciless destruction of everything we stand for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you should be sent somewhere for holding your medieval views? It's only fair.
Intolerance isn't something to be championed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the freedom you enjoy today living in the country was fought for by those loyal to KING & COUNTRY. But this concept of loyalty is strange to you hence you think it is a medieval view.
I am British and am loyal to Queen and Country.
Maybe you can go live elsewhere if you can't be ar sed about this country.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I cant believe you really believe this. Its frightening.
posted on 14/11/15
Here goes manchini again. What a moron... Completely and utterly irrelevant if I'm Muslim or not. These issues are political and not religious that's the point. These lunatics need eradicating by all- regardless of faith colour and creed. You just don't get it do you? Do you realise that these atrocities happen every other day across the world??? Or have you just woken up?
posted on 14/11/15
It should not matter whether or not I am a Muslim for this discussion, so I won't answer.
Nobody is pretending that radical Islam isn't a problem. We're just trying to introduce nuance to xenophobic views and preaching peace over war.
posted on 14/11/15
'ridiculous tribalism'?... oh the fecking irony.
Would you be 'loyal' to an 'elected' head of state? Or should we all just hope that we all just 'get on' with each other?
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Old Castle Swifts (U8613)
posted 1 minute ago
So western intervention because of mass murder in syria means we deserve to have bloodbaths on the streets of Europe
---
Shut the fack up idiot. Blaming the entire west for their own miserable failures and infighting between the different cults is not going to get any sympathy.
What Brazil and Japan have done? Why did their citizens got blown up and beheaded? You don't have any reasonable answers, do you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
fack u
the bloodbath in europe was one example u cant
these animals don't care who they kill to make their point.
posted on 14/11/15
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
posted on 14/11/15
comment by I am gooner now (U16927)
posted 18 minutes ago
The OP should of said Radical Islam in the title. Then the answer would be that there is a small risk. Even if they attack the small scale of the attacks kills a handfull of people in cities of millions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your point about it being a few is irrelevant, Hitler was one man, look at the atrocities he did, things always start of with a handful of people but the effects can be huge on society.
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
____________
Here comes another professor educated by the daily Star... Goodness gracious me
posted on 14/11/15
And those saying that it's Bush and Blair that caused all this radicalisation, crap, what's that got to do with the stuff happening in Africa right now?
These guys all stick together and are being sponsored by those in Saudi and other muslim countries, so if you want to stay ignorant and say it's just because of foreign policy, go ahead!
________________
pp, what do you know about foreign policies in Africa and the unending riches to be plundered there as long as its countries are kept down?
To a greater or lesser degree, nearly all of the conflicts there are at least in part fuelled by the fight to control vast oil reserves, super-conductors essential to all modern weaponry and most of our current technologies, as well as a long list of other blood minerals, arms sales, geostrategic interests, Western military presence in many African countries, the ethnic segregation fuelled by colonial powers and the appalling mess they left behind, ongoing corporate bribery of corrupt regimes supported by Western powers and their ongoing exploitation of entire nations...
The people subjected to all of this and those descended from them who have to listen every day on the bus to the ignorant utterings of utter morons like weare and mancini are far more peaceful than you care to realise.
posted on 14/11/15
comment by heisenberg... (U4832)
posted 1 minute ago
'ridiculous tribalism'?... oh the fecking irony.
Would you be 'loyal' to an 'elected' head of state? Or should we all just hope that we all just 'get on' with each other?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not sure I would be loyal to much that didn't deserve it. I am not a dog. Nonetheless, an elected head of state at least has a democratic mandate to rule and thus deserves more deference than someone who fell out of a fortuitous vä gina.
Peace is a complex process that is achieved best when people understand each other. That requires using our brains before using our trigger fingers.
posted on 14/11/15
the excuses for mass murder on here explain why incidents in Paris happen
All i'm hearing on this thread they did this and they did that and this is why this is happening, pathetic excuses for the mass murder of innocent civilians
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
____________
Here comes another professor educated by the daily Star... Goodness gracious me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Goodness gracious? What a 🔔🔚 😂
posted on 14/11/15
comment by The fackin Gaffer-Pranksteroflove-angry-dragon (U6283)
posted 1 minute ago
the excuses for mass murder on here explain why incidents in Paris happen
All i'm hearing on this thread they did this and they did that and this is why this is happening, pathetic excuses for the mass murder of innocent civilians
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 14/11/15
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 seconds ago
And those saying that it's Bush and Blair that caused all this radicalisation, crap, what's that got to do with the stuff happening in Africa right now?
These guys all stick together and are being sponsored by those in Saudi and other muslim countries, so if you want to stay ignorant and say it's just because of foreign policy, go ahead!
________________
pp, what do you know about foreign policies in Africa and the unending riches to be plundered there as long as its countries are kept down?
To a greater or lesser degree, nearly all of the conflicts there are at least in part fuelled by the fight to control vast oil reserves, super-conductors essential to all modern weaponry and most of our current technologies, as well as a long list of other blood minerals, arms sales, geostrategic interests, Western military presence in many African countries, the ethnic segregation fuelled by colonial powers and the appalling mess they left behind, ongoing corporate bribery of corrupt regimes supported by Western powers and their ongoing exploitation of entire nations...
The people subjected to all of this and those descended from them who have to listen every day on the bus to the ignorant utterings of utter morons like weare and mancini are far more peaceful than you care to realise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know quiet a bit actually and much more than you. and yes there are issues caused by colonial/slavery history , but these issues in Nigeria don't have to do with the West.
This is my issue on this subject, people always try and put the blame on something or someone else. Some people are just plain evil, but go ahead and continue justifying these atrocities
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Passion Power -I'm a .....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 seconds ago
And those saying that it's Bush and Blair that caused all this radicalisation, crap, what's that got to do with the stuff happening in Africa right now?
These guys all stick together and are being sponsored by those in Saudi and other muslim countries, so if you want to stay ignorant and say it's just because of foreign policy, go ahead!
________________
pp, what do you know about foreign policies in Africa and the unending riches to be plundered there as long as its countries are kept down?
To a greater or lesser degree, nearly all of the conflicts there are at least in part fuelled by the fight to control vast oil reserves, super-conductors essential to all modern weaponry and most of our current technologies, as well as a long list of other blood minerals, arms sales, geostrategic interests, Western military presence in many African countries, the ethnic segregation fuelled by colonial powers and the appalling mess they left behind, ongoing corporate bribery of corrupt regimes supported by Western powers and their ongoing exploitation of entire nations...
The people subjected to all of this and those descended from them who have to listen every day on the bus to the ignorant utterings of utter morons like weare and mancini are far more peaceful than you care to realise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know quiet a bit actually and much more than you. and yes there are issues caused by colonial/slavery history , but these issues in Nigeria don't have to do with the West.
This is my issue on this subject, people always try and put the blame on something or someone else. Some people are just plain evil, but go ahead and continue justifying these atrocities
----------------------------------------------------------------------
correct, playing the blame game doesn't get you anywhere
this is just plain mass murder committed by religious nutters.
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 6 minutes ago
Here goes manchini again. What a moron... Completely and utterly irrelevant if I'm Muslim or not. These issues are political and not religious that's the point. These lunatics need eradicating by all- regardless of faith colour and creed. You just don't get it do you? Do you realise that these atrocities happen every other day across the world??? Or have you just woken up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I think we are on the same page.
Blaming all these atrocities on Western policies is what really gets to me. Not defending the policies, But also i don't want anyone to justify these atrocities.
The fallout of these types of atrocities will be felt more by normal Muslims going about their business.
posted on 14/11/15
It's not about blame, it's about understanding enough to untangle the knots and actually effect long term change to try and stop future attacks.
The best way to defeat your enemy is to make them your friend.
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 14 minutes ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sometimes you're a massive idiot.
posted on 14/11/15
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 6 minutes ago
Here goes manchini again. What a moron... Completely and utterly irrelevant if I'm Muslim or not. These issues are political and not religious that's the point. These lunatics need eradicating by all- regardless of faith colour and creed. You just don't get it do you? Do you realise that these atrocities happen every other day across the world??? Or have you just woken up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I think we are on the same page.
Blaming all these atrocities on Western policies is what really gets to me. Not defending the policies, But also i don't want anyone to justify these atrocities.
The fallout of these types of atrocities will be felt more by normal Muslims going about their business.
______________________
Agree.
posted on 14/11/15
It's about blame. Blaming the Muslims who committed this atrocity
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 14 minutes ago
Muslims are evil and a massive threat
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Sometimes you're a massive idiot.
________________
Massive idiot. That's a bit kind tbh
posted on 14/11/15
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
It's not about blame, it's about understanding enough to untangle the knots and actually effect long term change to try and stop future attacks.
The best way to defeat your enemy is to make them your friend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Really
these people want to destroy our way of life, they don't want us to be alive let alone their friends
they want their religion to be the only religion in the land and all non believers to be outcasts.
friends, I don't think so.
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