Red
And could Jewish people live in Gaza?
I oppose hate towards Muslims,Jews chri s titans,gays and athiests....
Hamas urge kids to stab Jewish people and they want Israel to 'react with force,just as the Hamas fire useless rockets,knowing the idf will kill ,and so,propaganda win f or hamas.
Hamas and the I d f ave guilt in this.
Isis hate Hamas and Hezbollah,so not all good on the Israel hater front
England fans are to unite with French fans and sing their anthem next week.
White people in Charleston stood beside the black church folk after a racist shooting.
I stood with a girl from a Catholic nationalist background at peace rallies in Belfast.
I do not say Muslims should say sorry for daesh,and at first glance cbb was talking about a Muslim in Paris saying not in my name,as daesh say they fight for islam
Good posters reveal that daesh r not Islamic,so it is only common sense to highlight this,through not in my name,as we did with Iraq wars.
Just a thought
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comment by Poolmyfinger - American Eagle #SupportWesternCulture #SupportIsrael (U12438)
posted 3 minutes ago
So, are users going to get banned for having politically motivated user names?
I was starting to get attached to my new one
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No but you will get banned if you even verge close to some of your recent comments.
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Can't we all just condemn the attacks, in Paris, Beirut and Baghdad, all which occured within 24 hours of each other, for what they are - Atrocities. Heinous acts which only monsters would even contemplate. We give our condolences to everyone affected. Im not religious but say a prayer for everyone if you are. We hope that anyone affected is able to find some kind of peace and the ones responsible are brought to justice.
And then we get back to chatting shlt about Football instead of looking to aportion blame or trying to find reasons as to why its not all there fault.
It wasn't because of Bush, Blair, Brown, Obama, refugees, Muslims or anything else like that.
It was because theres some sick fvcks in this world who just want to spread hate and pain.
This is the time when we as a world should be coming together and proving that we are better than them, that we can be set against each other, rather than giving in and making it an "us vs them".
Lets move on and give it a rest on all these articles - they aren't helping anything.
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Can see both sides of the argument
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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Sometimes you get a smart alec OP who makes an utter moron of himself by demonstrating they know nothing of what Gaza is or in fact where it is.
For your info OP, there are no people of Jewish persuasion in Gaza. There's not much of anything else either, but back to your point, it's incorrect, thereby your article is a load of crso.
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So Red, exactly who are these people then who carry out these knife attacks on innocent civilians in the name of justice for Gaza? Not Palestines? Tell me who?
Further, you claim two things. One, I don't know anything about Gaza, two, there is not much of anything else in Gaza.
Well, I do know enough that the USA, UN, EU etc etc, have paid, and are still paying, billions in aid to the Palestine Authority. In fact, the Palestines are receiving more in foreign aid money wise then anyone ever before them. So why is it that the people in Palestine are so poor? Has it got anything to do with the fact the Palestine Authority keep claiming they have lost billions in foreign aid? And that people like Arafat, when he died, had an estimated worth of between 1 to 3 billion dollars in Swiss bank accounts? How / where did he get that money from hm?
So why is it that the people in Palestine are so poor?
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Probably because the most fertile land is taken by the Israelis, their home and properties are constantly destroyed by the Israelis.
Basically any economy just gets destroyed by the Israelis, why not look at some other countries were lots of aid money is poured in, they tend to be poor as well, because they have no or very little economy of their own.
It would be much cheaper if the Israelis would stop destroying any economy they can create, but then that isn't in Israels interests because poor people are desperate and extreme.
Which makes them much easier to paint as unreasonable enemies that the Israelis couldn't possibly work with.
There was a lot of corruption under Arafat, it's one of the reasons Hamas won the election, they are probably quite corrupt as well but they do provide things like hospitals and schools as well as obviously fighting the Israelis, all of which costs a fair bit.
I would invite you to go and see for yourself.
Ever heard of Tom Hurndall?
No wonder you're talking a load of guff when for one you don't even know where Gaza is.
Red, getting bored with this OP don't know where Gaza is. Last comment of mine, cos we are totally getting of the original toppic.
Gaza is bordered in the south by Egypt, not Israel. Care to explain why the Egyptians, certainly no friends of Israel, are having closed borders with Gaza, just as restrictive as Israel?
Surely Gaza could have free trade through its border with Egypt, even whilst Israel is blocking its border with Gaza.
Surely Gaza could have free trade through its border with Egypt
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That just shows the sheer gap in knowledge that you have.
What do Gaza citizens and populous have that is available to trade? How much GDP do they have available to spend on products from Egypt?
Dude, seriously, you have no idea.
Maybe something to enlighten you.
http://youtu.be/3emLCYB9j8c
Maybe raw in places so apologies if it offends your view of the world.
Btw average age of people in Gaza is around 28yrs old
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely Gaza could have free trade through its border with Egypt
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That just shows the sheer gap in knowledge that you have.
What do Gaza citizens and populous have that is available to trade? How much GDP do they have available to spend on products from Egypt?
Dude, seriously, you have no idea.
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So why does Egypt bother blocking the border, if Gaza has nothing to trade with anyway? Why spent money on closing a border, when it is of no use?
Clue: Hamas. Second richest terrorist organisation (as declared by most western countries like EU, USA, Canada) after ISIS, despite holding only a few percent of territory compared to ISIS. Taken over control of Gaza after all Israeli's left in 2005. Getting funds by stealing from the billions of aid to Gaza, as Arafat and co did before them. Using this money to buy weapons instead of food, supplies etc, hence Egypt and Israel blockade.
Maybe the people of Gaza should first rise up against Hamas before taking on Israel?
Using this money to buy weapons instead of food, supplies etc, hence Egypt and Israel blockade.
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There's a blockade but Hamas can buy weapons? From where?
You can throw around all the accusations that you want, but the only heavy weaponry in gaza is what Israel fires.
Will never ever forget some kids being blown up on the gaza beach while they were playing football. One of the very few times of fun they will ever have.
Blown.. up.
"The Israeli military announced on Thursday evening that the “extensive” criminal inquiry into the case had been closed because it was deemed to be a “tragic accident”.
No one was found culpable.
Gaza had an airport once. Until the Israelis closed it 24 hours after it opened.
Penned in and shot at - shooting fish in a barrel (gaza one of the most densely populated areas on earth)
Like I said, you have no idea, but I wish you would. See the youtube link, it's worth watching for your sake. Really.
Red,
Do some research on internet, it's all there. The only heavy weaponry in Gaza is what Israel fires? Since the withdrawal of Israel out of Gaza, 11.000 rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israel. Hamas use densely populated areas in Gaza to fire them, so the civilians can act as a shield.
Hamas have always used tunnels to smuggle in the weapons, and still do. That's why the borders are closed, so Egypt and Israel can check for tunnels being dug.
No, Israel is NOT innocent, far from it. But it also is not as black and white as you make it out to be. Both sides have a lot to answer for, but also some valid points.
11.000 rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israel
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Would not class those as heavy weapons if at all. I think fireworks used annually cause as many injuries as any "rockets"
Have you seen the YouTube link?
Also keen to hear where Hamas are buying weapons from - with land, sea and air completely closed to them by Israel.
"Research on the Internet - it's all there" is a shoddy argument if any! Did Tom Hurndall deserve to die? What did those kids do to deserve being killed playing football?
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
Did Tom Hurndall deserve to die? What did those kids do to deserve being killed playing football?
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What did 2,977 civilians do to deserve being murdered on 9/11?
What did 224 passengers do to deserve being murdered in the Russian plane crash?
Whad did the 270 passengers do to deserve being murdered due to the bomb on Pan-Am 103 over Lockerbie?
It's all well and good spouting propaganda about what's happening in one small part of the world but what about all of the other atrocities carried out in the name of religion or against some government or other elsewhere in the world?
Or is it that these atrocities don't suit your agenda so you ignore them?
Were Blair and Bush to blame for what happened to Pan-Am 103?
Glenghis, why would you wade in and try and link the Palestinian people for 9-11, Lockerbie or the sharm air disaster?
I don't think you have a clue, so why dont you go ahead and lump in the Malaysian airliner shot down over Ukraine, the air France flight in the Atlantic and the slavery perpetuated by ancient Egyptians
CurlyBlackBonce.......
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posted on 15/11/15
Red
And could Jewish people live in Gaza?
I oppose hate towards Muslims,Jews chri s titans,gays and athiests....
Hamas urge kids to stab Jewish people and they want Israel to 'react with force,just as the Hamas fire useless rockets,knowing the idf will kill ,and so,propaganda win f or hamas.
Hamas and the I d f ave guilt in this.
Isis hate Hamas and Hezbollah,so not all good on the Israel hater front
posted on 15/11/15
England fans are to unite with French fans and sing their anthem next week.
White people in Charleston stood beside the black church folk after a racist shooting.
I stood with a girl from a Catholic nationalist background at peace rallies in Belfast.
I do not say Muslims should say sorry for daesh,and at first glance cbb was talking about a Muslim in Paris saying not in my name,as daesh say they fight for islam
posted on 15/11/15
Good posters reveal that daesh r not Islamic,so it is only common sense to highlight this,through not in my name,as we did with Iraq wars.
Just a thought
posted on 15/11/15
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posted on 15/11/15
comment by Poolmyfinger - American Eagle #SupportWesternCulture #SupportIsrael (U12438)
posted 3 minutes ago
So, are users going to get banned for having politically motivated user names?
I was starting to get attached to my new one
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No but you will get banned if you even verge close to some of your recent comments.
posted on 15/11/15
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posted on 15/11/15
Can't we all just condemn the attacks, in Paris, Beirut and Baghdad, all which occured within 24 hours of each other, for what they are - Atrocities. Heinous acts which only monsters would even contemplate. We give our condolences to everyone affected. Im not religious but say a prayer for everyone if you are. We hope that anyone affected is able to find some kind of peace and the ones responsible are brought to justice.
And then we get back to chatting shlt about Football instead of looking to aportion blame or trying to find reasons as to why its not all there fault.
It wasn't because of Bush, Blair, Brown, Obama, refugees, Muslims or anything else like that.
It was because theres some sick fvcks in this world who just want to spread hate and pain.
This is the time when we as a world should be coming together and proving that we are better than them, that we can be set against each other, rather than giving in and making it an "us vs them".
Lets move on and give it a rest on all these articles - they aren't helping anything.
posted on 15/11/15
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posted on 15/11/15
Hypo
posted on 15/11/15
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posted on 15/11/15
Can see both sides of the argument
posted on 15/11/15
Hear hear tiddles.
posted on 16/11/15
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
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Sometimes you get a smart alec OP who makes an utter moron of himself by demonstrating they know nothing of what Gaza is or in fact where it is.
For your info OP, there are no people of Jewish persuasion in Gaza. There's not much of anything else either, but back to your point, it's incorrect, thereby your article is a load of crso.
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So Red, exactly who are these people then who carry out these knife attacks on innocent civilians in the name of justice for Gaza? Not Palestines? Tell me who?
Further, you claim two things. One, I don't know anything about Gaza, two, there is not much of anything else in Gaza.
Well, I do know enough that the USA, UN, EU etc etc, have paid, and are still paying, billions in aid to the Palestine Authority. In fact, the Palestines are receiving more in foreign aid money wise then anyone ever before them. So why is it that the people in Palestine are so poor? Has it got anything to do with the fact the Palestine Authority keep claiming they have lost billions in foreign aid? And that people like Arafat, when he died, had an estimated worth of between 1 to 3 billion dollars in Swiss bank accounts? How / where did he get that money from hm?
posted on 16/11/15
So why is it that the people in Palestine are so poor?
........................................
Probably because the most fertile land is taken by the Israelis, their home and properties are constantly destroyed by the Israelis.
Basically any economy just gets destroyed by the Israelis, why not look at some other countries were lots of aid money is poured in, they tend to be poor as well, because they have no or very little economy of their own.
It would be much cheaper if the Israelis would stop destroying any economy they can create, but then that isn't in Israels interests because poor people are desperate and extreme.
Which makes them much easier to paint as unreasonable enemies that the Israelis couldn't possibly work with.
There was a lot of corruption under Arafat, it's one of the reasons Hamas won the election, they are probably quite corrupt as well but they do provide things like hospitals and schools as well as obviously fighting the Israelis, all of which costs a fair bit.
posted on 16/11/15
I would invite you to go and see for yourself.
Ever heard of Tom Hurndall?
No wonder you're talking a load of guff when for one you don't even know where Gaza is.
posted on 16/11/15
Red, getting bored with this OP don't know where Gaza is. Last comment of mine, cos we are totally getting of the original toppic.
Gaza is bordered in the south by Egypt, not Israel. Care to explain why the Egyptians, certainly no friends of Israel, are having closed borders with Gaza, just as restrictive as Israel?
Surely Gaza could have free trade through its border with Egypt, even whilst Israel is blocking its border with Gaza.
posted on 16/11/15
Surely Gaza could have free trade through its border with Egypt
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That just shows the sheer gap in knowledge that you have.
What do Gaza citizens and populous have that is available to trade? How much GDP do they have available to spend on products from Egypt?
Dude, seriously, you have no idea.
posted on 16/11/15
Maybe something to enlighten you.
http://youtu.be/3emLCYB9j8c
Maybe raw in places so apologies if it offends your view of the world.
Btw average age of people in Gaza is around 28yrs old
posted on 16/11/15
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely Gaza could have free trade through its border with Egypt
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That just shows the sheer gap in knowledge that you have.
What do Gaza citizens and populous have that is available to trade? How much GDP do they have available to spend on products from Egypt?
Dude, seriously, you have no idea.
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So why does Egypt bother blocking the border, if Gaza has nothing to trade with anyway? Why spent money on closing a border, when it is of no use?
Clue: Hamas. Second richest terrorist organisation (as declared by most western countries like EU, USA, Canada) after ISIS, despite holding only a few percent of territory compared to ISIS. Taken over control of Gaza after all Israeli's left in 2005. Getting funds by stealing from the billions of aid to Gaza, as Arafat and co did before them. Using this money to buy weapons instead of food, supplies etc, hence Egypt and Israel blockade.
Maybe the people of Gaza should first rise up against Hamas before taking on Israel?
posted on 16/11/15
Using this money to buy weapons instead of food, supplies etc, hence Egypt and Israel blockade.
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There's a blockade but Hamas can buy weapons? From where?
You can throw around all the accusations that you want, but the only heavy weaponry in gaza is what Israel fires.
Will never ever forget some kids being blown up on the gaza beach while they were playing football. One of the very few times of fun they will ever have.
Blown.. up.
"The Israeli military announced on Thursday evening that the “extensive” criminal inquiry into the case had been closed because it was deemed to be a “tragic accident”.
No one was found culpable.
Gaza had an airport once. Until the Israelis closed it 24 hours after it opened.
Penned in and shot at - shooting fish in a barrel (gaza one of the most densely populated areas on earth)
Like I said, you have no idea, but I wish you would. See the youtube link, it's worth watching for your sake. Really.
posted on 16/11/15
Red,
Do some research on internet, it's all there. The only heavy weaponry in Gaza is what Israel fires? Since the withdrawal of Israel out of Gaza, 11.000 rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israel. Hamas use densely populated areas in Gaza to fire them, so the civilians can act as a shield.
Hamas have always used tunnels to smuggle in the weapons, and still do. That's why the borders are closed, so Egypt and Israel can check for tunnels being dug.
No, Israel is NOT innocent, far from it. But it also is not as black and white as you make it out to be. Both sides have a lot to answer for, but also some valid points.
posted on 16/11/15
11.000 rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israel
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Would not class those as heavy weapons if at all. I think fireworks used annually cause as many injuries as any "rockets"
Have you seen the YouTube link?
posted on 16/11/15
Also keen to hear where Hamas are buying weapons from - with land, sea and air completely closed to them by Israel.
"Research on the Internet - it's all there" is a shoddy argument if any! Did Tom Hurndall deserve to die? What did those kids do to deserve being killed playing football?
posted on 16/11/15
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
Did Tom Hurndall deserve to die? What did those kids do to deserve being killed playing football?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What did 2,977 civilians do to deserve being murdered on 9/11?
What did 224 passengers do to deserve being murdered in the Russian plane crash?
Whad did the 270 passengers do to deserve being murdered due to the bomb on Pan-Am 103 over Lockerbie?
It's all well and good spouting propaganda about what's happening in one small part of the world but what about all of the other atrocities carried out in the name of religion or against some government or other elsewhere in the world?
Or is it that these atrocities don't suit your agenda so you ignore them?
Were Blair and Bush to blame for what happened to Pan-Am 103?
posted on 16/11/15
Glenghis, why would you wade in and try and link the Palestinian people for 9-11, Lockerbie or the sharm air disaster?
I don't think you have a clue, so why dont you go ahead and lump in the Malaysian airliner shot down over Ukraine, the air France flight in the Atlantic and the slavery perpetuated by ancient Egyptians
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