comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 34 minutes ago
A lone guy walking into a police station with a knife doesn't really sound like it was in anyway organised
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absolutely, and if ISIS/da'esh organised themselves in this way it wouldn't take long for us to defeat them.
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Right......you two do realize this is exactly what ISIS / El Qaeda etc have planned and hoped would happen?....no probably not....
On a very regular basis ISIS etc call up for what they call devote muslims who are living in the West, to attack people there, using any weapons, including knives, or even use their cars as weapons by driving into crowds
Their goal is to destabilize western society that way, cause panic, unrest etc etc.
You also should realize that this is exactly what makes ISIS so difficult to defeat. We can defeat an army. We cannot defeat nutters who suddenly decide to pick up a knife and attack an officer, or behead a soldier, without any planning or training from ISIS.
Yeah the only people saying it was an organised threat or anything like that are people on forums like this or on social media. It's self perpetuating.
MUd - when did I say everything concerned IS?
Ruined - newspapers do print football BS. This was a widely reported terrorist attack. Hardly the same as the Sun printing they think united might get Bale because he once had a Giggs poster.
Ontheblob - your suggestion this terrorist attack isn't significant gives away where your sympathies lie.
And who mentioned this was organised? Intelligence services have long warned about lone wolf attacks. No less a terrorist attack.
But keep dismissing it or blaming it on the media or referring to it as fishy, it is clear to most what is happening and your dismissal of it is frankly quite concerning.
Ontheblob - your suggestion this terrorist attack isn't significant gives away where your sympathies lie.
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RDD, if you want to say something, say it. Don't make snide comments.
So what sympathies do I have that are so readily given away?
Don't be a you're a big boy talking the world.
Floor is yours.
Snide comments? I said exactly what I wanted to say. Your sympathies seeme to lie with the naive liberal lefties that will go to extreme lengths to give the Impression all is well and there isn't a terrorist problem in Europe (other than the far right of course)
And I'm loving the way you now respond to ontheblob haha
When has there not been a terrorist problem in Europe?
The Irish Republican Army
ETA
'Red' Factions around Europe
Cold War
Secret Police
Stalin
Hitler
World War 1
So no, I'm not naive to think there are no terrorist issues in Europe or the World.
I think you have a pretty myopic view, and are media driven.
Are those guys that took over the building in the US with an agenda to overthrow the government, terrorists in your book?
comment by Reddevilsdouble- il just say it was a joke (U12215)
posted 2 minutes ago
And I'm loving the way you now respond to ontheblob haha
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Considering it's your comeback to being called a muppet, it's amazing how far (badly) you took it that you continue.
Keep laughing, as its you you're laughing at, in the end.
If by media driven you mean I comment on terrorists acts like today's then yes I am.
And yes, of course this in the states are terrorists.
And no, it's you I'm laughing at.
Redin
If the gys ar using terror tactics in Oregon, then yes it is terrorism, and what is this effort to underplay terrorism done int he name of islam...........by thugs killing muslims?
Mudd loves Breivik, as the counter argument to hundreds of islamist terror attacks in Europe, and that loon was a pira supporter, so fek him too.
Sad wee far right loser, just like his leftist and islamist fellow travellers.
TBAB, if anyone thinks Breivik acted alone, they are incredibly stupid.
You also need to realise something, IS and all these nutters are right wingers.
Not sure you are aware, just wanted you to know.
And why would I care if daesh are labelled right wing, mudd?Are far left terror thugs right wing too, such as the sectarian pira?
Did I say your mate Breiver's acted alone, and can you name any other of his ilk..................worldwide islamist terror is a little more widespread, but hey, if it does not fit your political bias, rant about the right, lol.
I am neither left, right or centre.
How no Breivik my mate? He has more in common with you than me.
There are numerous folk like Breivik worldwide. In Europe there are numerous examples. They are the number 1 terror threat in the USA at the moment.
Your right wing buddies.
You are a right winger, tending to far right. It comes through clearly in your posts
MUDD, true enough.. all those with a bent against multiculturalism, and a pluralistic society, are right wing.
Hahaha redinthehead, mudd.....do you know who are truly bent against a pluralistic society? Muslims. NO freedom of speech allowed re the prophet etc. NO criticism of Islam in general, although we in the west have a tradition of criticising Christianity etc. Gay people are not too welcome either in general. Sharia patrols in some big cities in the UK who threaten people who drink alcohol are not dressed decent enough. Not very forgiving to people who convert from Islam to Christianity. And multicultural.....shall we see how things would go if we mix them with Jewish people?
Mudd the bigot labels me right wing......narrow minded little man.
A little knowledge really is a dangerous thing in your case.
Bet you do not know you are a bigot, as only right wi gers are bigots, right😉
Tim
I saw such a sharia patrol in east london where a gay man was verbally abused by a mob of bigots.....daesh throw gay men from roof tops, but they are right wing now, so it is the wests fault on several levels of mudd rationale😁
Biggest threat to a liberal world order does not come from loonies on the right, imo.
Brievik is a sad sick man, and do not link him to me mudd, just as saying you are an isis lover would be silly.
All terrorist and bad people will get it from me, no matter what skin tone,faith or state they crawl out from.
Hahaha redinthehead, mudd.....do you know who are truly bent against a pluralistic society? Muslims. NO freedom of speech allowed re the prophet etc. NO criticism of Islam in general, although we in the west have a tradition of criticising Christianity etc. Gay people are not too welcome either in general. Sharia patrols in some big cities in the UK who threaten people who drink alcohol are not dressed decent enough. Not very forgiving to people who convert from Islam to Christianity. And multicultural.....shall we see how things would go if we mix them with Jewish people?
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Wow, just... Wow!
I remember the welcome Muslims Hindus, Sikhs received when invited in by Britain.
Patrols were called p-k- bashers!
I remember mum having to pick glass out of my dads hair after he was bottles on the way home from work.
Ffs... what do you mean let's see what happens when you mix them in with Jews?
You do know that Muslims and Jews lived side by side for centuries? Even in Europe! Have a read on Spain's history.
Christian spain drove them out, oh and who helped in providing refuge? Ottoman Turks, (who happened to be Muslim)
Some people speak the absolute height of crap on here, without even the smallest understanding of subject matter.
Please for the sake of your own serenity, do a little research.
comment by There are some who call me.........Tim (U7708)
posted 18 minutes ago
Hahaha redinthehead, mudd.....do you know who are truly bent against a pluralistic society? Muslims. NO freedom of speech allowed re the prophet etc. NO criticism of Islam in general, although we in the west have a tradition of criticising Christianity etc. Gay people are not too welcome either in general. Sharia patrols in some big cities in the UK who threaten people who drink alcohol are not dressed decent enough. Not very forgiving to people who convert from Islam to Christianity. And multicultural.....shall we see how things would go if we mix them with Jewish people?
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Literally every point in that statement is bullschit.
Change the word Muslims with Jews or Blacks and there would be outrage on this thread.
Red and kung fu canton a
Using the term muslim in that post was wrong and should have read extremist muslim or islamist.
Just as we have white, fundamentalist ,black power, sikh or hindu extremists.
Not forgetting athiest extremists in the old ussr, china or north korea.
What are you speaking for this "there are some that call me... Tim" character?
He's a big boy im sure so can speak for himself
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Tim
I saw such a sharia patrol in east london where a gay man was verbally abused by a mob of bigots.....daesh throw gay men from roof tops, but they are right wing now, so it is the wests fault on several levels of mudd rationale😁
Biggest threat to a liberal world order does not come from loonies on the right, imo.
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You heard of shomrim?
These are the police backed, financially etc, patrols in London made up of mainly hasidic Jews.
Not only have people not heard of them much big also know little that although supported they have with held evidence for Jewish criminals but also been overly aggressive with non Jews lgbt etc. Never hits the news.
Oh and they also have a private am glance service.
Its all "volunteers" but our tax pounds pay for cars etc
They have existed for ages in UK and USA.
Do you not think the life working with thr sharia patrols may have ended up in a similar set up?
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posted on 7/1/16
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 34 minutes ago
A lone guy walking into a police station with a knife doesn't really sound like it was in anyway organised
----------
absolutely, and if ISIS/da'esh organised themselves in this way it wouldn't take long for us to defeat them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Right......you two do realize this is exactly what ISIS / El Qaeda etc have planned and hoped would happen?....no probably not....
On a very regular basis ISIS etc call up for what they call devote muslims who are living in the West, to attack people there, using any weapons, including knives, or even use their cars as weapons by driving into crowds
Their goal is to destabilize western society that way, cause panic, unrest etc etc.
You also should realize that this is exactly what makes ISIS so difficult to defeat. We can defeat an army. We cannot defeat nutters who suddenly decide to pick up a knife and attack an officer, or behead a soldier, without any planning or training from ISIS.
posted on 7/1/16
Yeah the only people saying it was an organised threat or anything like that are people on forums like this or on social media. It's self perpetuating.
posted on 7/1/16
MUd - when did I say everything concerned IS?
Ruined - newspapers do print football BS. This was a widely reported terrorist attack. Hardly the same as the Sun printing they think united might get Bale because he once had a Giggs poster.
Ontheblob - your suggestion this terrorist attack isn't significant gives away where your sympathies lie.
And who mentioned this was organised? Intelligence services have long warned about lone wolf attacks. No less a terrorist attack.
But keep dismissing it or blaming it on the media or referring to it as fishy, it is clear to most what is happening and your dismissal of it is frankly quite concerning.
posted on 7/1/16
Ontheblob - your suggestion this terrorist attack isn't significant gives away where your sympathies lie.
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RDD, if you want to say something, say it. Don't make snide comments.
So what sympathies do I have that are so readily given away?
Don't be a you're a big boy talking the world.
Floor is yours.
posted on 7/1/16
*talking about the world
posted on 7/1/16
Snide comments? I said exactly what I wanted to say. Your sympathies seeme to lie with the naive liberal lefties that will go to extreme lengths to give the Impression all is well and there isn't a terrorist problem in Europe (other than the far right of course)
posted on 7/1/16
And I'm loving the way you now respond to ontheblob haha
posted on 7/1/16
When has there not been a terrorist problem in Europe?
The Irish Republican Army
ETA
'Red' Factions around Europe
Cold War
Secret Police
Stalin
Hitler
World War 1
So no, I'm not naive to think there are no terrorist issues in Europe or the World.
I think you have a pretty myopic view, and are media driven.
Are those guys that took over the building in the US with an agenda to overthrow the government, terrorists in your book?
posted on 7/1/16
comment by Reddevilsdouble- il just say it was a joke (U12215)
posted 2 minutes ago
And I'm loving the way you now respond to ontheblob haha
------
Considering it's your comeback to being called a muppet, it's amazing how far (badly) you took it that you continue.
Keep laughing, as its you you're laughing at, in the end.
posted on 7/1/16
If by media driven you mean I comment on terrorists acts like today's then yes I am.
And yes, of course this in the states are terrorists.
And no, it's you I'm laughing at.
posted on 7/1/16
Redin
If the gys ar using terror tactics in Oregon, then yes it is terrorism, and what is this effort to underplay terrorism done int he name of islam...........by thugs killing muslims?
posted on 7/1/16
Mudd loves Breivik, as the counter argument to hundreds of islamist terror attacks in Europe, and that loon was a pira supporter, so fek him too.
Sad wee far right loser, just like his leftist and islamist fellow travellers.
posted on 7/1/16
TBAB, if anyone thinks Breivik acted alone, they are incredibly stupid.
You also need to realise something, IS and all these nutters are right wingers.
Not sure you are aware, just wanted you to know.
posted on 7/1/16
And why would I care if daesh are labelled right wing, mudd?Are far left terror thugs right wing too, such as the sectarian pira?
Did I say your mate Breiver's acted alone, and can you name any other of his ilk..................worldwide islamist terror is a little more widespread, but hey, if it does not fit your political bias, rant about the right, lol.
I am neither left, right or centre.
posted on 8/1/16
How no Breivik my mate? He has more in common with you than me.
There are numerous folk like Breivik worldwide. In Europe there are numerous examples. They are the number 1 terror threat in the USA at the moment.
Your right wing buddies.
You are a right winger, tending to far right. It comes through clearly in your posts
posted on 8/1/16
MUDD, true enough.. all those with a bent against multiculturalism, and a pluralistic society, are right wing.
posted on 8/1/16
Hahaha redinthehead, mudd.....do you know who are truly bent against a pluralistic society? Muslims. NO freedom of speech allowed re the prophet etc. NO criticism of Islam in general, although we in the west have a tradition of criticising Christianity etc. Gay people are not too welcome either in general. Sharia patrols in some big cities in the UK who threaten people who drink alcohol are not dressed decent enough. Not very forgiving to people who convert from Islam to Christianity. And multicultural.....shall we see how things would go if we mix them with Jewish people?
posted on 8/1/16
Mudd the bigot labels me right wing......narrow minded little man.
A little knowledge really is a dangerous thing in your case.
Bet you do not know you are a bigot, as only right wi gers are bigots, right😉
posted on 8/1/16
Tim
I saw such a sharia patrol in east london where a gay man was verbally abused by a mob of bigots.....daesh throw gay men from roof tops, but they are right wing now, so it is the wests fault on several levels of mudd rationale😁
Biggest threat to a liberal world order does not come from loonies on the right, imo.
posted on 8/1/16
Brievik is a sad sick man, and do not link him to me mudd, just as saying you are an isis lover would be silly.
All terrorist and bad people will get it from me, no matter what skin tone,faith or state they crawl out from.
posted on 8/1/16
Hahaha redinthehead, mudd.....do you know who are truly bent against a pluralistic society? Muslims. NO freedom of speech allowed re the prophet etc. NO criticism of Islam in general, although we in the west have a tradition of criticising Christianity etc. Gay people are not too welcome either in general. Sharia patrols in some big cities in the UK who threaten people who drink alcohol are not dressed decent enough. Not very forgiving to people who convert from Islam to Christianity. And multicultural.....shall we see how things would go if we mix them with Jewish people?
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Wow, just... Wow!
I remember the welcome Muslims Hindus, Sikhs received when invited in by Britain.
Patrols were called p-k- bashers!
I remember mum having to pick glass out of my dads hair after he was bottles on the way home from work.
Ffs... what do you mean let's see what happens when you mix them in with Jews?
You do know that Muslims and Jews lived side by side for centuries? Even in Europe! Have a read on Spain's history.
Christian spain drove them out, oh and who helped in providing refuge? Ottoman Turks, (who happened to be Muslim)
Some people speak the absolute height of crap on here, without even the smallest understanding of subject matter.
Please for the sake of your own serenity, do a little research.
posted on 8/1/16
comment by There are some who call me.........Tim (U7708)
posted 18 minutes ago
Hahaha redinthehead, mudd.....do you know who are truly bent against a pluralistic society? Muslims. NO freedom of speech allowed re the prophet etc. NO criticism of Islam in general, although we in the west have a tradition of criticising Christianity etc. Gay people are not too welcome either in general. Sharia patrols in some big cities in the UK who threaten people who drink alcohol are not dressed decent enough. Not very forgiving to people who convert from Islam to Christianity. And multicultural.....shall we see how things would go if we mix them with Jewish people?
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Literally every point in that statement is bullschit.
Change the word Muslims with Jews or Blacks and there would be outrage on this thread.
posted on 8/1/16
Red and kung fu canton a
Using the term muslim in that post was wrong and should have read extremist muslim or islamist.
Just as we have white, fundamentalist ,black power, sikh or hindu extremists.
Not forgetting athiest extremists in the old ussr, china or north korea.
posted on 8/1/16
What are you speaking for this "there are some that call me... Tim" character?
He's a big boy im sure so can speak for himself
posted on 8/1/16
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Tim
I saw such a sharia patrol in east london where a gay man was verbally abused by a mob of bigots.....daesh throw gay men from roof tops, but they are right wing now, so it is the wests fault on several levels of mudd rationale😁
Biggest threat to a liberal world order does not come from loonies on the right, imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You heard of shomrim?
These are the police backed, financially etc, patrols in London made up of mainly hasidic Jews.
Not only have people not heard of them much big also know little that although supported they have with held evidence for Jewish criminals but also been overly aggressive with non Jews lgbt etc. Never hits the news.
Oh and they also have a private am glance service.
Its all "volunteers" but our tax pounds pay for cars etc
They have existed for ages in UK and USA.
Do you not think the life working with thr sharia patrols may have ended up in a similar set up?
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