I think I would now be disappointed finishing outside the top 4. There I have said something I would never have dreamed of saying.
comment by ianbluefox (U10176)
posted 15 minutes ago
Claudio made no secret of wanting another striker, so I'm guessing that he must be slightly disappointed in not having got one.
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I imagine Claudio is disappointed, although armed with a lot more facts than us I'm guessing he might be more understanding.
Yankari, slight misuse of my words there. I'm not suggesting the club are naive, they recognised the need for another striker. I'm suggesting you as a fan may be if you think Ulloa is enough to support Vardy.
Just my opinion
Yankari I can't believe you have questioned bs extensive knowledge😂😂totally agreed with your view though
I said a few weeks back (when I didn't think we were looking to sign anyone) that I was happy with our squad because I think it's good enough already. Our league position backs that up.
Yes it would have been nice to sign another striker but we don't have as many games to play as the rest and we don't suffer too badly from injuries. With our defence tightening up, we no longer need to score two or three to win and Okazaki and other players have chipped in when required. There's another five goals each in Okazaki and Ulloa I reckon. Then Amartey has a great shot and is an aerial threat and Gray will probably score and it's about time Fuchs leathered a free kick in. Hopefully Drinky will score a few more now too.
In the last 43 games, this team has scored a bag full of goals and there's no reason for that to stop. Remember Vardy scored three of our final 19 goals last season? I think we can cope without another striker.
And I'm just relieved Dwight Gayle isn't holding up a City shirt
Great contributions Yankari
It's not really whether we think individual players are good enough (i.e. Ulloa), but whether we believe in the club's judgement call on cost v value. I'm sure that there has been a lot of activity not visible to us and we don't really know how hard we've worked to do some business.
I can understand the frustration, given our unique position and also the argument that we should go for gold now. My incline is that we may have been trying to do something akin to that by smashing our transfer record on a striker.
I don't know for sure if we've made the right calls but, given our record on signing players makes me think the club have earned a bit of leeway here and with it our trust.
Arro- Gray deserves a start and will score.....
Ulloa, not so much...
Okarzaki is the Asian Dickov...
Amartey, Lets us just hope!
We did not lose anyone we did not need to and how exciting that the talk is about us buying players from Chelsea and not selling to them?
comment by Florida Fox (U2500)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Arro- Gray deserves a start and will score.....
Ulloa, not so much...
Okarzaki is the Asian Dickov...
Amartey, Lets us just hope!
We did not lose anyone we did not need to and how exciting that the talk is about us buying players from Chelsea and not selling to them?
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I'm not sure we'll see Gray starting for a while, as much as he's more exciting than Albrighton, we can't underestimate the job he does for the team. I do think he'll score though and it'll be special when he does.
Ulloa is a victim of our style of play and a lack of confidence but games like Newcastle, Norwich, Swansea etc I can see him scoring and he only needs a couple of goals to get him going. Let's not forget he was our best striker last season.
I don't think Dickov ever scored more international goals in a year than anyone else and there certainly are similarities but Okazaki is ten times the player Dickov was.
I'm really excited about Amartey and Ranieri onviously thinks he can play right back and centre half given that RDL and Benalouane have left on loan.
I'm glad Inler is still here too, I think his expeience will be invaluable in the run in.
Like you said, at least we're not talking about losing anyone like Vardy or Mahrez.
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 6 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Florida Fox (U2500)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Arro- Gray deserves a start and will score.....
Ulloa, not so much...
Okarzaki is the Asian Dickov...
Amartey, Lets us just hope!
We did not lose anyone we did not need to and how exciting that the talk is about us buying players from Chelsea and not selling to them?
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I'm not sure we'll see Gray starting for a while, as much as he's more exciting than Albrighton, we can't underestimate the job he does for the team. I do think he'll score though and it'll be special when he does.
Ulloa is a victim of our style of play and a lack of confidence but games like Newcastle, Norwich, Swansea etc I can see him scoring and he only needs a couple of goals to get him going. Let's not forget he was our best striker last season.
I don't think Dickov ever scored more international goals in a year than anyone else and there certainly are similarities but Okazaki is ten times the player Dickov was.
I'm really excited about Amartey and Ranieri onviously thinks he can play right back and centre half given that RDL and Benalouane have left on loan.
I'm glad Inler is still here too, I think his expeience will be invaluable in the run in.
Like you said, at least we're not talking about losing anyone like Vardy or Mahrez.
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Arrow, If Okazaki becomes near to being as good as Dickov was then I will be happy!
I'm mildly disappointed we couldn't bring in another striker, but not greatly. While I still think we're a forward or two light, the players we were linked with and supposedly missed out on weren't actually that exciting. Remy and Musa I'd have been happy to see, but I wouldn't have been doing cartwheels even at those.
The problem now is that there's so much on Vardy's shoulders - even more so than before. Let's hope his fitness holds out.
Disappointed in not signing a striker, but I'm more concerned about our out goings, Richie de Laet and Benny out on loan, which means we're relying on Amarty to cover centre back and right back if we get any injuries. Strange move.
What about Wasi as centre back?
I'd imagine that both have recall options should the worst happen, but apart from that yes - Wasilewski can cover as well and looks a calmer head than Benalouane.
I'm a bit sad to see De Laet go, even if only on loan. He was another part of the promotion squad, has great pace and decent control. Unfortunately I suppose his problem is that he hasn't progressed since he arrived - he still has lapses in concentration and judgement and they're just punished too often in the Premier League.
So a quiet Transfer Deadline Day at the King Power.....
Before yesterday we had already seen 3 new young exciting prospects bought in through January, but as always there was a day full of speculation and rumour yesterday.
CR had stated that he would like to bring a striker in if it was possible but if not then he wasn't unduly concerned. So we all, and the media went into overdrive about who, how much, good or bad move etc.
As the window shut last night I for one was pleased that we had kept Inler ( squad rotation but starting to be more of an influence when he gets game time) and that we hadn't bought a new striker in.
January is a tough time for a player to move and for the buying club. The player is expected to hit the ground running with new team mates and potentially a new system in a new country. Undue pressure can then lead to overly critical assessments by us all and that can crucify a career before it had started.
I much prefer a new player in the summer when they have the bonus of a pre season before the serious games start.
The names thrown around yesterday were interesting,
Remy - Still think we will go back for him at the end of the season
Musa - Interesting choice, statement of intent but COULD have taken the rest of the season to settle. Also the money side was obviously a sticking point between the clubs.
Gayle - seemed to draw an awful lot of unfair criticism on here yesterday. He is quick, knows where the back of the net is, needs confidence and a run of games.
Diouf - Unfortunately when Sky said we were after a " big name player" we were all underwhelmed by this link. This was mainly as Stoke were looking to recoup some money after the £19m outlay on their new midfielder.
A number of people were pointing fingers at Rudkin/Neville/Ranieri over our inability to bring anyone in.
But IMO we are too of the league with this group of players so there is no reason we can't carry on frightening the bigger clubs for the rest of the season.
I fully expect to see £60m spent on players in the summer IF we qualify for the Champions League......
But at the moment we love the team we have and I for one think that they will see the lack of activity as a plus and we can kick on starting tonight against Liverpool.
UTF
Ps If Vardy gets a season ending injury tonight, then Ranieri out I say 😉
The mere statement that we were in the market for a striker might have raised the prices. If we as fans can come to the conclusion that now is the time to be dangerous and go for it, you can bet that other clubs' chairmen will come to that conclusion about our mentality as well, and anyone who wanted to hold us to ransom tried it.
I don't believe for a moment that Claudio Ranieri is as calm as he suggested about not bringing in another striker, but also I doubt he'll be banging on Jon Rudkin's door this morning and demanding satisfaction. After all, Spurs are arguably in a very similar situation to us - one star English striker with concerns over who will back him up - and they didn't get a new striker either. Neither did Arsenal. Meanwhile Man City weren't interested in bolstering their squad as they'll want to give Guardiola as big a budget as possible in the summer. In fact, across the league, the ones who strengthened the most were the mid-table sides.
Tommy - as for the 4 players we were rumoured with:
Remy, I can't see any further action. That transfer is now dead as far as I'm concerned; he was a backup idea, a player for the present, and I can't see us going back in for him.
Musa, I think is more interesting. We may be back in for him in the summer, but we've made it clear that we won't be held to ransom. Still up in the air, but we may not have heard the last of it.
Gayle, I think is precisely as bad as people were suggesting and I'm happy that we haven't brought him in. If he once knew where the back of the net was, he seems to have long since forgotten. I think we can do better than Palace's cast-offs.
Diouf, from what I've heard he was offered to us rather than us going after him. Perhaps we had enquired in the past, or perhaps Mark Hughes had got the impression we were desperate. Either way, and regardless of his qualities or otherwise, I don't think we were ever really interested.
Dung
Completely agree re. Diouf
As you rightly point out the Top 4 clubs ( yes that includes us !!!!) were very quiet yesterday.
Whereas other clubs who are trying to catch the Top 4 or are flirting with relegation tend to be the busier clubs.
But if we all take a step back, was there a striker AVAILABLE that would have come. Probably not, strikers of the quality we are now looking for are few and far between.
Bring on the summer activity I say.
Just as an aside Dung
If we do make Top 4 how many new players would you expect in next seasons first game
1-2
3-5
Complete overhaul ?
I'd guess somewhere in the middle of that: 2 or 3. I can't see a complete overhaul. Complete overhauls are expensive and don't tend to work anyway.
IF ( and that's a big IF) we do make the Top 4 I think it will be interesting to see how the owners and the Management team approach next season.
I am sure there will be frustration, excitement, surprise and complete bewilderment along the way...... But after the last 20 years we wouldn't expect anything else.
It's never dull with us that's for sure!
I think this transfer window - or moreover this transfer deadline day - is a clear indication that the owners won't change their style, that they believe that budgeting is working for them and that they're not going to just start throwing millions of pounds around left, right and centre. After all, this was the time more than any time before for us to spend big and go for glory. We haven't done that, instead staying true to the principles that got us to this point.
Is this a little naïve? Possibly. But also I think you've got to give everyone some credit for not losing their nerve and paying what they would consider themselves to be over the odds. Certainly it's a big statement of belief in the current squad, and I wonder how they'll respond to the news that we've resisted bringing in big-money reinforcements. (And in the case of Musa, this certainly looked possible if we'd really wished it.)
Over to you, Mr. Ulloa...
Disappointed? Not too much. January isn't a good buyers market
And we shouldn't feel like we'll get left behind / caught up because of it.
None of the top 8 have made any significant signing throughout January let alone deadline day so its pretty much status quo
Just remembered all this outrage in the January transfer window. Seems the people in charge called it right, no matter how the season ends.
comment by ConcreteFox (U20742)
posted 13 minutes ago
Just remembered all this outrage in the January transfer window. Seems the people in charge called it right, no matter how the season ends.
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Haven't they always for the last few years.
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posted on 1/2/16
I think I would now be disappointed finishing outside the top 4. There I have said something I would never have dreamed of saying.
posted on 1/2/16
comment by ianbluefox (U10176)
posted 15 minutes ago
Claudio made no secret of wanting another striker, so I'm guessing that he must be slightly disappointed in not having got one.
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I imagine Claudio is disappointed, although armed with a lot more facts than us I'm guessing he might be more understanding.
posted on 1/2/16
Good for you Hairy!
posted on 1/2/16
Yankari, slight misuse of my words there. I'm not suggesting the club are naive, they recognised the need for another striker. I'm suggesting you as a fan may be if you think Ulloa is enough to support Vardy.
Just my opinion
posted on 1/2/16
Yankari I can't believe you have questioned bs extensive knowledge😂😂totally agreed with your view though
posted on 1/2/16
I said a few weeks back (when I didn't think we were looking to sign anyone) that I was happy with our squad because I think it's good enough already. Our league position backs that up.
Yes it would have been nice to sign another striker but we don't have as many games to play as the rest and we don't suffer too badly from injuries. With our defence tightening up, we no longer need to score two or three to win and Okazaki and other players have chipped in when required. There's another five goals each in Okazaki and Ulloa I reckon. Then Amartey has a great shot and is an aerial threat and Gray will probably score and it's about time Fuchs leathered a free kick in. Hopefully Drinky will score a few more now too.
In the last 43 games, this team has scored a bag full of goals and there's no reason for that to stop. Remember Vardy scored three of our final 19 goals last season? I think we can cope without another striker.
posted on 1/2/16
And I'm just relieved Dwight Gayle isn't holding up a City shirt
posted on 2/2/16
Great contributions Yankari
It's not really whether we think individual players are good enough (i.e. Ulloa), but whether we believe in the club's judgement call on cost v value. I'm sure that there has been a lot of activity not visible to us and we don't really know how hard we've worked to do some business.
I can understand the frustration, given our unique position and also the argument that we should go for gold now. My incline is that we may have been trying to do something akin to that by smashing our transfer record on a striker.
I don't know for sure if we've made the right calls but, given our record on signing players makes me think the club have earned a bit of leeway here and with it our trust.
posted on 2/2/16
Arro- Gray deserves a start and will score.....
Ulloa, not so much...
Okarzaki is the Asian Dickov...
Amartey, Lets us just hope!
We did not lose anyone we did not need to and how exciting that the talk is about us buying players from Chelsea and not selling to them?
posted on 2/2/16
comment by Florida Fox (U2500)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Arro- Gray deserves a start and will score.....
Ulloa, not so much...
Okarzaki is the Asian Dickov...
Amartey, Lets us just hope!
We did not lose anyone we did not need to and how exciting that the talk is about us buying players from Chelsea and not selling to them?
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I'm not sure we'll see Gray starting for a while, as much as he's more exciting than Albrighton, we can't underestimate the job he does for the team. I do think he'll score though and it'll be special when he does.
Ulloa is a victim of our style of play and a lack of confidence but games like Newcastle, Norwich, Swansea etc I can see him scoring and he only needs a couple of goals to get him going. Let's not forget he was our best striker last season.
I don't think Dickov ever scored more international goals in a year than anyone else and there certainly are similarities but Okazaki is ten times the player Dickov was.
I'm really excited about Amartey and Ranieri onviously thinks he can play right back and centre half given that RDL and Benalouane have left on loan.
I'm glad Inler is still here too, I think his expeience will be invaluable in the run in.
Like you said, at least we're not talking about losing anyone like Vardy or Mahrez.
posted on 2/2/16
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 6 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Florida Fox (U2500)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Arro- Gray deserves a start and will score.....
Ulloa, not so much...
Okarzaki is the Asian Dickov...
Amartey, Lets us just hope!
We did not lose anyone we did not need to and how exciting that the talk is about us buying players from Chelsea and not selling to them?
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I'm not sure we'll see Gray starting for a while, as much as he's more exciting than Albrighton, we can't underestimate the job he does for the team. I do think he'll score though and it'll be special when he does.
Ulloa is a victim of our style of play and a lack of confidence but games like Newcastle, Norwich, Swansea etc I can see him scoring and he only needs a couple of goals to get him going. Let's not forget he was our best striker last season.
I don't think Dickov ever scored more international goals in a year than anyone else and there certainly are similarities but Okazaki is ten times the player Dickov was.
I'm really excited about Amartey and Ranieri onviously thinks he can play right back and centre half given that RDL and Benalouane have left on loan.
I'm glad Inler is still here too, I think his expeience will be invaluable in the run in.
Like you said, at least we're not talking about losing anyone like Vardy or Mahrez.
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Arrow, If Okazaki becomes near to being as good as Dickov was then I will be happy!
posted on 2/2/16
I'm mildly disappointed we couldn't bring in another striker, but not greatly. While I still think we're a forward or two light, the players we were linked with and supposedly missed out on weren't actually that exciting. Remy and Musa I'd have been happy to see, but I wouldn't have been doing cartwheels even at those.
The problem now is that there's so much on Vardy's shoulders - even more so than before. Let's hope his fitness holds out.
posted on 2/2/16
Disappointed in not signing a striker, but I'm more concerned about our out goings, Richie de Laet and Benny out on loan, which means we're relying on Amarty to cover centre back and right back if we get any injuries. Strange move.
posted on 2/2/16
What about Wasi as centre back?
posted on 2/2/16
I'd imagine that both have recall options should the worst happen, but apart from that yes - Wasilewski can cover as well and looks a calmer head than Benalouane.
I'm a bit sad to see De Laet go, even if only on loan. He was another part of the promotion squad, has great pace and decent control. Unfortunately I suppose his problem is that he hasn't progressed since he arrived - he still has lapses in concentration and judgement and they're just punished too often in the Premier League.
posted on 2/2/16
So a quiet Transfer Deadline Day at the King Power.....
Before yesterday we had already seen 3 new young exciting prospects bought in through January, but as always there was a day full of speculation and rumour yesterday.
CR had stated that he would like to bring a striker in if it was possible but if not then he wasn't unduly concerned. So we all, and the media went into overdrive about who, how much, good or bad move etc.
As the window shut last night I for one was pleased that we had kept Inler ( squad rotation but starting to be more of an influence when he gets game time) and that we hadn't bought a new striker in.
January is a tough time for a player to move and for the buying club. The player is expected to hit the ground running with new team mates and potentially a new system in a new country. Undue pressure can then lead to overly critical assessments by us all and that can crucify a career before it had started.
I much prefer a new player in the summer when they have the bonus of a pre season before the serious games start.
The names thrown around yesterday were interesting,
Remy - Still think we will go back for him at the end of the season
Musa - Interesting choice, statement of intent but COULD have taken the rest of the season to settle. Also the money side was obviously a sticking point between the clubs.
Gayle - seemed to draw an awful lot of unfair criticism on here yesterday. He is quick, knows where the back of the net is, needs confidence and a run of games.
Diouf - Unfortunately when Sky said we were after a " big name player" we were all underwhelmed by this link. This was mainly as Stoke were looking to recoup some money after the £19m outlay on their new midfielder.
A number of people were pointing fingers at Rudkin/Neville/Ranieri over our inability to bring anyone in.
But IMO we are too of the league with this group of players so there is no reason we can't carry on frightening the bigger clubs for the rest of the season.
I fully expect to see £60m spent on players in the summer IF we qualify for the Champions League......
But at the moment we love the team we have and I for one think that they will see the lack of activity as a plus and we can kick on starting tonight against Liverpool.
UTF
Ps If Vardy gets a season ending injury tonight, then Ranieri out I say 😉
posted on 2/2/16
The mere statement that we were in the market for a striker might have raised the prices. If we as fans can come to the conclusion that now is the time to be dangerous and go for it, you can bet that other clubs' chairmen will come to that conclusion about our mentality as well, and anyone who wanted to hold us to ransom tried it.
I don't believe for a moment that Claudio Ranieri is as calm as he suggested about not bringing in another striker, but also I doubt he'll be banging on Jon Rudkin's door this morning and demanding satisfaction. After all, Spurs are arguably in a very similar situation to us - one star English striker with concerns over who will back him up - and they didn't get a new striker either. Neither did Arsenal. Meanwhile Man City weren't interested in bolstering their squad as they'll want to give Guardiola as big a budget as possible in the summer. In fact, across the league, the ones who strengthened the most were the mid-table sides.
Tommy - as for the 4 players we were rumoured with:
Remy, I can't see any further action. That transfer is now dead as far as I'm concerned; he was a backup idea, a player for the present, and I can't see us going back in for him.
Musa, I think is more interesting. We may be back in for him in the summer, but we've made it clear that we won't be held to ransom. Still up in the air, but we may not have heard the last of it.
Gayle, I think is precisely as bad as people were suggesting and I'm happy that we haven't brought him in. If he once knew where the back of the net was, he seems to have long since forgotten. I think we can do better than Palace's cast-offs.
Diouf, from what I've heard he was offered to us rather than us going after him. Perhaps we had enquired in the past, or perhaps Mark Hughes had got the impression we were desperate. Either way, and regardless of his qualities or otherwise, I don't think we were ever really interested.
posted on 2/2/16
Dung
Completely agree re. Diouf
As you rightly point out the Top 4 clubs ( yes that includes us !!!!) were very quiet yesterday.
Whereas other clubs who are trying to catch the Top 4 or are flirting with relegation tend to be the busier clubs.
But if we all take a step back, was there a striker AVAILABLE that would have come. Probably not, strikers of the quality we are now looking for are few and far between.
Bring on the summer activity I say.
Just as an aside Dung
If we do make Top 4 how many new players would you expect in next seasons first game
1-2
3-5
Complete overhaul ?
posted on 2/2/16
I'd guess somewhere in the middle of that: 2 or 3. I can't see a complete overhaul. Complete overhauls are expensive and don't tend to work anyway.
posted on 2/2/16
IF ( and that's a big IF) we do make the Top 4 I think it will be interesting to see how the owners and the Management team approach next season.
I am sure there will be frustration, excitement, surprise and complete bewilderment along the way...... But after the last 20 years we wouldn't expect anything else.
It's never dull with us that's for sure!
posted on 2/2/16
I think this transfer window - or moreover this transfer deadline day - is a clear indication that the owners won't change their style, that they believe that budgeting is working for them and that they're not going to just start throwing millions of pounds around left, right and centre. After all, this was the time more than any time before for us to spend big and go for glory. We haven't done that, instead staying true to the principles that got us to this point.
Is this a little naïve? Possibly. But also I think you've got to give everyone some credit for not losing their nerve and paying what they would consider themselves to be over the odds. Certainly it's a big statement of belief in the current squad, and I wonder how they'll respond to the news that we've resisted bringing in big-money reinforcements. (And in the case of Musa, this certainly looked possible if we'd really wished it.)
Over to you, Mr. Ulloa...
posted on 2/2/16
Disappointed? Not too much. January isn't a good buyers market
And we shouldn't feel like we'll get left behind / caught up because of it.
None of the top 8 have made any significant signing throughout January let alone deadline day so its pretty much status quo
posted on 13/4/16
Just remembered all this outrage in the January transfer window. Seems the people in charge called it right, no matter how the season ends.
posted on 13/4/16
comment by ConcreteFox (U20742)
posted 13 minutes ago
Just remembered all this outrage in the January transfer window. Seems the people in charge called it right, no matter how the season ends.
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Haven't they always for the last few years.
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