comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree with Ledley.

As mentioned, the distance Arsenal have left themselves to claw back after yesterday's looks too big now.

What none of the chasing pack should do though is throw in the towel.

This season's been one of the most surprising in living memory. Who's to say it doesn't still have the odd twist and turn left in it.

Yesterday was one of the toughest games Arsenal had left on paper. A win would have really been a boost, but a point doesn't leave them out of it mathematically, and I doubt Wenger will be giving up just yet.

Anyone can beat anyone right? So despite Arro's understandable bullishness, the title won't be won until the gap on the board is bigger than the number of points left to play for.

Leicester's closing fixtures are tough, and as much as they've had big moments in the past seasons, the pressure will rise to levels the players have never quite experienced.

Leicester are the only club in a position to drop points and remain favourites with 5 games to go - who'd have ever guessed, eh? - but they still won't have won the title.
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come on man how can arsenal win the title?they need 4 games just to overtake leicester with 6 to go.assuming leicester lose 4.and quite frankly all wenger is really bothered about is 4th spot..

comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
Btw, Barça haven't got complacent Arro. You know nothing about Spanish football.
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No I don't and I don't care. You know nothing about English football!

come on man how can arsenal win the title?they need 4 games just to overtake leicester with 6 to go.assuming leicester lose 4.and quite frankly all wenger is really bothered about is 4th spot..
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I already said as much, twice.

The only difference in the above post was to say that no one should give up until it's materially impossible. I'm long in the tooth and seen many a title fight go down to the wire and the tables turned on the final day.

I've seen my own team lead the league for 31 weeks and blow the title after leading 2-0 on the final day.

Basically, now matter how good it looks at any stage, it ain't over till it's over.

You mention 4th spot in your post. The fact that it's far from guaranteed is precisely one of the reasons you'll still be on your toes.

Considering you admit to not watching English football, why do you always comment on it? You don't know anything about it!

im not saying give up the ghost when you have a mathematical chance.what im saying its a mathematical chance only and not a realistic chance ...the reason arsenal wont win the title is 1. they cant defend and 2.they are not good enough..theres 2 good reasons.Even at 3-3 yesterday sanchez had a chance and dallied to long to get on his right foot. arsenal just bottle it when it really matters...and they would do so again under this current regime..

comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
Btw, Barça haven't got complacent Arro. You know nothing about Spanish football.
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No I don't and I don't care. You know nothing about English football!
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You're too obvious, but I can guarantee I've watched a damn sight more English footy than you have Spanish.

I'm also not deluded enough to believe a whole different set of rules applies to one team/league or the other.

Leicester are as susceptible to suffering a season-end collapse as any other team. It's highly improbable yet entirely possible to blow an 8-point lead in 3 weeks. 9 if you also lose out on goal difference.

I suspecct most football fans realise this and do not deduct it as a possible worst-case scenario, just perhaps not yourself.

comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 5 minutes ago
Considering you admit to not watching English football, why do you always comment on it? You don't know anything about it!
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You're wrong there. I told a user I don't watch English football the other night as part of a wum.

I regularly admit to not watching anywhere near as much football -Premier League or other- as I'd like because family is what takes priority in my life, but it doesn't mean I don't watch any.

As it goes, I've watched a fair bit of PL this year,but you'll find I'm generally cautious when judging specific team tactics, formations, etc. beyond what I know.

You'll also find that my comments on this thread are as to the generic nature of football as a game, and do not therefore require watching 36 games in 48 hours.



That said, the issue here - as seems to be the common theme with you - is that you're confusing fact and opinion.

You make a sweeping judgement on why Barça have dropped their last 6 Liga points without any knowledge of the events, and think you're stating a fact. You're not, you're stating an opinion that -surprise, surprise- tends to be based on your own preconceived stereotypes and prejudice as opposed to seated in reality.

True to form too, you get all aggressive when you're reeled in for it.

comment by arsene wengbottler (U20940)
posted 11 minutes ago
im not saying give up the ghost when you have a mathematical chance.what im saying its a mathematical chance only and not a realistic chance ...the reason arsenal wont win the title is 1. they cant defend and 2.they are not good enough..theres 2 good reasons.Even at 3-3 yesterday sanchez had a chance and dallied to long to get on his right foot. arsenal just bottle it when it really matters...and they would do so again under this current regime..
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Yes, being realistic the chances are all but gone. Some say they'd gone weeks ago.

All I'm saying is win your last 6, or at least 5 of them, and leave it to Leicester and Spurs to make sure they do their homework.

comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 5 minutes ago
Considering you admit to not watching English football, why do you always comment on it? You don't know anything about it!
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You're wrong there. I told a user I don't watch English football the other night as part of a wum.

I regularly admit to not watching anywhere near as much football -Premier League or other- as I'd like because family is what takes priority in my life, but it doesn't mean I don't watch any.

As it goes, I've watched a fair bit of PL this year,but you'll find I'm generally cautious when judging specific team tactics, formations, etc. beyond what I know.

You'll also find that my comments on this thread are as to the generic nature of football as a game, and do not therefore require watching 36 games in 48 hours.



That said, the issue here - as seems to be the common theme with you - is that you're confusing fact and opinion.

You make a sweeping judgement on why Barça have dropped their last 6 Liga points without any knowledge of the events, and think you're stating a fact. You're not, you're stating an opinion that -surprise, surprise- tends to be based on your own preconceived stereotypes and prejudice as opposed to seated in reality.

True to form too, you get all aggressive when you're reeled in for it.

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I'm not being aggressive at all, it was you that said you don't watch English football then I would automatically assume that you don't because you said it! Maybe don't wum then if you want to be taken seriously, just a thought.

I was also placing opinion as to why Barca may have let such a lead slip and I don't care what the reason is. Complacency is usually the reason why teams let things slip, like Arsenal getting complacent yesterday at 2-0 up. The same with Livepool when 2-0 at Southampton.

How wouid you call it then if not complacency?

Maybe don't wum then if you want to be taken seriously, just a thought.
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Wum/joke, call it what you like. I thought it was pretty obvious considering the person I was speaking to replied with a smiley. Sorry if it went right over your head.

I know you don't care about the circumstances regarding Barça - you've said as much twice - but then why bother commenting at all? It's simply because you refuse to accept the possibility of anything similar happening to Leicester?

For many reasons already explained, it CAN happen to Leicester, and for reasons widely admitted by most, it's looking increasingly UNLIKELY.

Ironically amid all of this, a couple of the more logical explanations for Barça's recent defeats are also factors that you guys don't have to worry about.

I don't think it will happen to Leicester so why should I say I think it will if I don't?

Why do you always feel the need to comment on articles about Leicester when you don't know anything about us?

Just because it has happened to other teams doesn't for one minute mean it will happen to us and I stand by my opinion that it won't! Got a problem with that?

And if letting a 10 point lead slip isn't being complacent then what is it?

How wouid you call it then if not complacency?
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Sorry, I didn't realise you'd actually asked.

1st defeat was the clásico. It's precisely the type of game every football fan knows is unpredictable and can swing either way, as per the old saying that form caards go out the window. Add to this the fact that Barça's strikeforce were all returning from a transcontinental travel, whilst two of Madrid's 3 hadn't even been on int'l duty and the third played two games just down the road. Thirdly, they had a far more important game coming up, the CL QFs, that might have kept them from giving 100%. And finally, they've been struggling to get their wins for a few weeks and there's a lot of talk about them looking jaded going into the final stretch.

As for last night, again, they have a very delicately balanced CL QF in midweek. They were visiting a team that's capable of the best and the worst, but that is generally one of the toughest ground for La Liga's top teams. Last season they beat all of the top 3 at home, and Barça have only collected one point there in the past 6 seasons.

Ok fair enough

comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 6 minutes ago
I don't think it will happen to Leicester so why should I say I think it will if I don't?

Why do you always feel the need to comment on articles about Leicester when you don't know anything about us?
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Arro, this article is clearly about the title race, which involves many teams, not just Leicester, and is of wider interest to football fans.

The other article we were discussing on these past few days was about the competitiveness of the PL - again a broader football discussion rather than 'about Leicester'.

I don't imagine you're bothered about my posting history, but I think the first time I posted an article on your board, it was on the back of reading about Jamie Vardy's story and to remark on how great I thought it was.

Don't try to make out as if I had any problem with Leicester, because I don't, and don't give me the old story about me having no business here, because the Leicester story is one of those that will always fascinate every football fan and makes them want to comment.

We've had a fair few discussions and lots of agreements, but you're not going to intimidate me into keeping quiet if I disagree with you.

You say you like to debate. Just get on with it.

Arro, the articles I've posted on the Leicester board:

On Vardy:
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/324635
(Incientally: comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)

posted on 11/10/15

Welcome to the nut house mate 👍

Cheers for the article, it was a great read.)


Second:
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/338174
On the coincidence of the last two seasons that saw a team win the league for the first time, there was also a first time cup winner, and that interestingly there are two semifinalists who've never won the cup.

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/339016
Which team would suffer most from a potential injury to its star striker. Two articles posted separately on the Leicester and Spurs boards so everyone could have their say without rubbing opposition fans up the wrong way.


I'd say that more or less shows I have nothing whatsoever against Leicester and that I'm not a trouble maker, regardless of how many or which points we disagree upon Arro.

Yeah ok well I might have been hasty, it just appeared like you were commenting on something that you didn't really have any interest on because you said you didn't watch PL football. Happy to take it back and apologise then 👍

That honours you. Cheers arro.

Above and beyond my preferred type of football, I've always been fascinated by and paid a lot of attention to the psychological side of elite sport, and this year's PL campaign and run in are as good as it gets.

Without meaning to irritate anyone, it's at a point right now where I'd like to see Leicester drop some points so it keeps on building towards a massive season-end climax. Would still want Leicester to prevail because of the underdog factor and because I've always like Ranieri, but it'll just feel a bit anticlimactic if you guys seal with two or three games to spare.

I understand your sentiment as a neutral but I want us to get it wrapped up asap ha ha 😂

Course you do. If only for your own health. Coronary units across Leicestershire will be on red alert if it comes down to the final day.

comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 33 seconds ago
Course you do. If only for your own health. Coronary units across Leicestershire will be on red alert if it comes down to the final day.
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Yeah no doubt they would, there are already some fans who can't cope ha ha 😂

I want this sorted (with Leicester as winners) as soon as possible

No drama, just the fairy tale please

comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 4 minutes ago
I want this sorted (with Leicester as winners) as soon as possible

No drama, just the fairy tale please
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Love it mate 😂👍

3 points closer.