that war lasted the duration it did, because too many high up people were making too much money out of it. Lethal Weapon may be fiction. Shadow company most likely did not exist. But i have no doubts the drug dealing part of it is true.
JFK on TV says he did not think America could win the war. Murmurs are he was going to take America out of it. Lo n behold JFK ends up dead and the war lasted another 10 years.
Flash, JFK was killed in 63, the 1st American combat troops were not deployed to Vietnam until 65.
However, probably not the right forum or article to discuss all that!
An eternal legacy RIP The Greatest.
Very sad today. Such an icon. RiP
2016 is been a horrid year...
RIP to the greatest there ever was
I met him once and got a signed photo for 1 dollar US.
He was signing them and handing them out in support of the black student union at UCLA.
His poem that day was ...
"I dont want no pie
up there in the sky
when I die.
I want something sound
down here on the ground
while I'm around"
He got it!!
R.I.P.
Yeah, here's a little context for that poem:
it was at a time when he was "on top of the world" and in great form.
The US Supreme court had just absolved (if that's the right word) him of the charge of draft evasion and thus enabled him to fight again.
And he had just won back one of his world titles.
He was already 30 years old when I met him.
His Vietnam War protest cost him 4 of his best fighting years.
Yes Ted, I always thought those would have been his best years - a real tragedy that they were lost!
In retrospect should have retired after the 3rd Frazier fight. I remember him from 1970 onwards when he had to change styles and showed his ability to take a punch. Even as late as 77 when he was 35 he took Shavers best shots as superb alluded to.
My favorite moment was when he beat Michael Jordan at battle rapping x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_uOtAkEf6U
I love he's EDL impersonation years before they were formed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HBnc8YNaaQ
By loved I mean how the hell did he get away with saying this and never ever get criticised for it
The left is uncomfortable criticizing Muslims x
comment by X (U4074)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The left is uncomfortable criticizing Muslims x
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True I suppose, but by the same token the much bigger concern is that the right should seem so shamelessly comfortable to tar billions with the same brush, fuelling the type of religious and racial hatred that killed so many millions barely a generation ago.
I know right.
Imagine we lived in a world where white skinheads committed terrorist acts across Europe using guns and explosives.
A world where neo-fascist gangs target vulnerable underaged girls to abuse and pimp. But the local-politicians ignore the crime because they share the same ideology.
The possibility that all this MIGHT happen...
Yeah, that should definitely be your biggest concern
Call me naive, but if they did, I reckon it's more likely they'd have more support of other neofascists than ISIS and Al Qaeda extremists get from mainstream Muslims, if only because the vast majority of their victims wouldn't be other neofascists.
And yes, I do think it's a pretty big concern given the rise of far-right political parties across Western nations whose main selling point is to stoke the fire of intolerance against immigrants and ethnic and religious minorities in response.
Been there and wouldn't want to go back, thank you very much.
As for attacks perpetrated or planned by far-right extremists, I suggest you either dig a little deeper or open your ears a bit more. And with the current inflammation or xenophobe sentiment, the fear is it'll only get worse.
If 'mainstream Muslims' (whatever that means) don't support a Caliphate in large numbers, where do they keep recruiting their members from?
Why is Salafism the largest and fastest growing sect?
Why do the majority of them favour Sharia law?
If there is an inflammation of xenophobia in the right, it is because the establishment has failed to protect the rights and liberties of its citizens, non-muslim and muslim alike.
You're afraid of the return of fascism but islamo-fascism is already here. Every day the human-rights of British citizens, trapped in these communities, are trampled on because of a very backward religious morality.
By all means if neo-fascists organizations ever do return to power lets take to the streets and fight them off.
But in the mean time:
Can we deal with the real problem we actually have?! x
Every time something like this happens, I think back to conversations like this, with politically correct idiots just like you who insist that the big problem in the West isn't Islamism, but the threat of white supremacy.
You and all the other apologists for this backward toxic medieval culture makes me sick x
You obviously need to attach labels to things so you can vent your hatred, I'm not going to stop you.
Perhaps when you learn to read what is said rather than reading what you'd like to think is said we could have a conversation.
In the meantime I happy for those of your ilk to consider me an idiot, I'll wear it as a medal of honour.
No I get it; your worried that saying this is a problem of Islam, instead of individuals who happen to be Muslim is racist or Islamophobic. Frankly that is the opinion of a fool.
When the actions of these terrorists are predicated on a religion of peace, and those actions are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people all over the world; the focus of critical examination should no longer be placed solely on the individuals, but it is the common ideology, which all these attackers share, that also requires attention. Duh x
No, you're still just twisting my words.
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posted on 4/6/16
that war lasted the duration it did, because too many high up people were making too much money out of it. Lethal Weapon may be fiction. Shadow company most likely did not exist. But i have no doubts the drug dealing part of it is true.
JFK on TV says he did not think America could win the war. Murmurs are he was going to take America out of it. Lo n behold JFK ends up dead and the war lasted another 10 years.
posted on 4/6/16
Flash, JFK was killed in 63, the 1st American combat troops were not deployed to Vietnam until 65.
However, probably not the right forum or article to discuss all that!
posted on 4/6/16
An eternal legacy RIP The Greatest.
posted on 4/6/16
Very sad today. Such an icon. RiP
posted on 4/6/16
2016 is been a horrid year...
RIP to the greatest there ever was
posted on 4/6/16
I met him once and got a signed photo for 1 dollar US.
He was signing them and handing them out in support of the black student union at UCLA.
His poem that day was ...
"I dont want no pie
up there in the sky
when I die.
I want something sound
down here on the ground
while I'm around"
He got it!!
R.I.P.
posted on 4/6/16
Nice story Ted
posted on 4/6/16
Yeah, here's a little context for that poem:
it was at a time when he was "on top of the world" and in great form.
The US Supreme court had just absolved (if that's the right word) him of the charge of draft evasion and thus enabled him to fight again.
And he had just won back one of his world titles.
He was already 30 years old when I met him.
His Vietnam War protest cost him 4 of his best fighting years.
posted on 4/6/16
Yes Ted, I always thought those would have been his best years - a real tragedy that they were lost!
posted on 4/6/16
In retrospect should have retired after the 3rd Frazier fight. I remember him from 1970 onwards when he had to change styles and showed his ability to take a punch. Even as late as 77 when he was 35 he took Shavers best shots as superb alluded to.
posted on 5/6/16
My favorite moment was when he beat Michael Jordan at battle rapping x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_uOtAkEf6U
posted on 5/6/16
I love he's EDL impersonation years before they were formed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HBnc8YNaaQ
posted on 5/6/16
By loved I mean how the hell did he get away with saying this and never ever get criticised for it
posted on 6/6/16
The left is uncomfortable criticizing Muslims x
posted on 6/6/16
comment by X (U4074)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The left is uncomfortable criticizing Muslims x
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True I suppose, but by the same token the much bigger concern is that the right should seem so shamelessly comfortable to tar billions with the same brush, fuelling the type of religious and racial hatred that killed so many millions barely a generation ago.
posted on 6/6/16
I know right.
Imagine we lived in a world where white skinheads committed terrorist acts across Europe using guns and explosives.
A world where neo-fascist gangs target vulnerable underaged girls to abuse and pimp. But the local-politicians ignore the crime because they share the same ideology.
The possibility that all this MIGHT happen...
Yeah, that should definitely be your biggest concern
posted on 6/6/16
Call me naive, but if they did, I reckon it's more likely they'd have more support of other neofascists than ISIS and Al Qaeda extremists get from mainstream Muslims, if only because the vast majority of their victims wouldn't be other neofascists.
And yes, I do think it's a pretty big concern given the rise of far-right political parties across Western nations whose main selling point is to stoke the fire of intolerance against immigrants and ethnic and religious minorities in response.
Been there and wouldn't want to go back, thank you very much.
As for attacks perpetrated or planned by far-right extremists, I suggest you either dig a little deeper or open your ears a bit more. And with the current inflammation or xenophobe sentiment, the fear is it'll only get worse.
posted on 6/6/16
If 'mainstream Muslims' (whatever that means) don't support a Caliphate in large numbers, where do they keep recruiting their members from?
Why is Salafism the largest and fastest growing sect?
Why do the majority of them favour Sharia law?
If there is an inflammation of xenophobia in the right, it is because the establishment has failed to protect the rights and liberties of its citizens, non-muslim and muslim alike.
You're afraid of the return of fascism but islamo-fascism is already here. Every day the human-rights of British citizens, trapped in these communities, are trampled on because of a very backward religious morality.
By all means if neo-fascists organizations ever do return to power lets take to the streets and fight them off.
But in the mean time:
Can we deal with the real problem we actually have?! x
posted on 12/6/16
Every time something like this happens, I think back to conversations like this, with politically correct idiots just like you who insist that the big problem in the West isn't Islamism, but the threat of white supremacy.
You and all the other apologists for this backward toxic medieval culture makes me sick x
posted on 13/6/16
You obviously need to attach labels to things so you can vent your hatred, I'm not going to stop you.
Perhaps when you learn to read what is said rather than reading what you'd like to think is said we could have a conversation.
In the meantime I happy for those of your ilk to consider me an idiot, I'll wear it as a medal of honour.
posted on 13/6/16
No I get it; your worried that saying this is a problem of Islam, instead of individuals who happen to be Muslim is racist or Islamophobic. Frankly that is the opinion of a fool.
When the actions of these terrorists are predicated on a religion of peace, and those actions are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people all over the world; the focus of critical examination should no longer be placed solely on the individuals, but it is the common ideology, which all these attackers share, that also requires attention. Duh x
posted on 14/6/16
No, you're still just twisting my words.
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