amazing what scraping a win against a pub Welsh team can do to people.
Tonight was quite a rotten performance from Germany - a consistent theme since they won the World Cup. I'd bet good money on England to beat the team I saw out there.
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Tonight was quite a rotten performance from Germany - a consistent theme since they won the World Cup. I'd bet good money on England to beat the team I saw out there.
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Maybe in a group game, we'd bottle it in a knock out game no doubt if we were actually in a position to beat them.
That Spain side of 2008 ended up becoming one of the best in the modern era so it might be slightly premature to think England could ever reach those levels.
However I agree with the gist of your article - this side could achieve something special. With the three strikers we have, all with something different England can definitely go far. However the one thing holding us back I fear is the manager who is nothing short of a joke. The fact that it has taken him one and a half games to get the combination right is shocking.
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amazing what scraping a win against a pub Welsh team can do to people.
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posted 17 seconds ago
amazing what scraping a win against a pub Welsh team can do to people.
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Wasn't even thinking about that win when I typed this. I was thinking more of the fact the top teams look quite mediocre and way off the level of their more successful sides.
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Footballs coming home
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That Spain side of 2008 ended up becoming one of the best in the modern era so it might be slightly premature to think England could ever reach those levels.
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No, I don't think England could reach those levels. They could, but it's highly unlikely. I cited them as an example of a team who shook off a reputation to achieve great success. England's past flopping doesn't condemn England to be eternal flops.
The top teams will start putting in better performances as the tournament goes on. England will do well to scrape into the quarter finals. People point to the strike force, we still have an average midfield and a dodgy defence.
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comment by Koo Tee Neo (U9135)
posted 19 seconds ago
Footballs coming home
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every time, make the most of it while it lasts
Like the OP says there are no great sides in this tourney. England on paper are not really much worse in some departments than anyone else but something strange happens to them in the knockout round.
Two knockout round wins in all comps since Euro 96.
I think England will get an easyish draw in the next round. If they win that they might get some confidence. Who knows after that but with Rooney in midfield and Cahill in defence I think class will tell eventually.
I still think Belgium will surprise a few people.
Whilst not a fantastic performance, England should be given credit for today's win, it's never easy when a team parks the bus, no matter what level of football it's at
Nothing to do with history; we're just not quite good enough, sadly, especially at the back. But we're better than a lot of people say. I said quarters at the start and I'm sticking with that. Maybe one further.
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 32 seconds ago
Whilst not a fantastic performance, England should be given credit for today's win, it's never easy when a team parks the bus, no matter what level of football it's at
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Wales are a better team than many give them credit for as well. They picked up 4 points vs Belgium in qualifiers after all. We're still a long way behind the likes of Italy, Germany, France and Spain though.
Quite fancy Croatia for some reason. Think they'll go far into the tournament.
Re. England, just have to hope Roy sticks with Vardy and Sturridge now. Think todays match was never likely to be a classic, just about getting the win. Which they did.
The top teams will start putting in better performances as the tournament goes on. England will do well to scrape into the quarter finals. People point to the strike force, we still have an average midfield and a dodgy defence.
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Those assumptions are made based on history though. It won't be that big a shock for England to beat any of the fancied boys. Their defence, which you think is dodgy is one of the best in the competition. Their midfield isn;t the greatest, but it's solid enough not to get overrun.
Wales still parked the bus today,Neo.
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comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 32 seconds ago
Whilst not a fantastic performance, England should be given credit for today's win, it's never easy when a team parks the bus, no matter what level of football it's at
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Wales are a better team than many give them credit for as well. They picked up 4 points vs Belgium in qualifiers after all. We're still a long way behind the likes of Italy, Germany, France and Spain though.
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I don't think England are a long way away from any of those sides. International football isn't like CL football. There are no Barcelonas or Real Madrids.
It's just a bunch of sides with players thrown together with inferior players than they're used to at club level. No international side is miles better than England. That doesn't mean England are world class. More that no international side is world class. Germany are one of the worst defending champions I've seen.
We're still a long way behind the likes of Italy, Germany, France and Spain though.
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Italy arrived this tournament with one of their worst ever squads (their worst in my lifetime). Spain and Germany are miles off their peak level. It's not just a question of form, but key shortcomings in their team. France have a hell of a lot to prove considering their mediocrity since the end of the Zidane era.
Croatia might just be the best team I've seen in the tournament at the moment,though that in turn leads to Turkey being the worst team I've seen.
"Germany are one of the worst defending champions I've seen."
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"Germany are one of the worst defending champions I've seen."
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posted on 16/6/16
amazing what scraping a win against a pub Welsh team can do to people.
posted on 16/6/16
Tonight was quite a rotten performance from Germany - a consistent theme since they won the World Cup. I'd bet good money on England to beat the team I saw out there.
posted on 16/6/16
...It begins...
posted on 16/6/16
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 minute ago
Tonight was quite a rotten performance from Germany - a consistent theme since they won the World Cup. I'd bet good money on England to beat the team I saw out there.
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Maybe in a group game, we'd bottle it in a knock out game no doubt if we were actually in a position to beat them.
posted on 16/6/16
That Spain side of 2008 ended up becoming one of the best in the modern era so it might be slightly premature to think England could ever reach those levels.
However I agree with the gist of your article - this side could achieve something special. With the three strikers we have, all with something different England can definitely go far. However the one thing holding us back I fear is the manager who is nothing short of a joke. The fact that it has taken him one and a half games to get the combination right is shocking.
posted on 16/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
amazing what scraping a win against a pub Welsh team can do to people.
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posted on 16/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 17 seconds ago
amazing what scraping a win against a pub Welsh team can do to people.
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Wasn't even thinking about that win when I typed this. I was thinking more of the fact the top teams look quite mediocre and way off the level of their more successful sides.
posted on 16/6/16
Footballs coming home
posted on 16/6/16
comment by Koo Tee Neo (U9135)
posted 19 seconds ago
Footballs coming home
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Played this in the office after the win today
posted on 16/6/16
That Spain side of 2008 ended up becoming one of the best in the modern era so it might be slightly premature to think England could ever reach those levels.
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No, I don't think England could reach those levels. They could, but it's highly unlikely. I cited them as an example of a team who shook off a reputation to achieve great success. England's past flopping doesn't condemn England to be eternal flops.
posted on 16/6/16
The top teams will start putting in better performances as the tournament goes on. England will do well to scrape into the quarter finals. People point to the strike force, we still have an average midfield and a dodgy defence.
posted on 16/6/16
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Koo Tee Neo (U9135)
posted 19 seconds ago
Footballs coming home
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Played this in the office after the win today
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every time, make the most of it while it lasts
posted on 16/6/16
Like the OP says there are no great sides in this tourney. England on paper are not really much worse in some departments than anyone else but something strange happens to them in the knockout round.
Two knockout round wins in all comps since Euro 96.
I think England will get an easyish draw in the next round. If they win that they might get some confidence. Who knows after that but with Rooney in midfield and Cahill in defence I think class will tell eventually.
I still think Belgium will surprise a few people.
posted on 16/6/16
Best football song ever.
posted on 16/6/16
Whilst not a fantastic performance, England should be given credit for today's win, it's never easy when a team parks the bus, no matter what level of football it's at
posted on 16/6/16
Nothing to do with history; we're just not quite good enough, sadly, especially at the back. But we're better than a lot of people say. I said quarters at the start and I'm sticking with that. Maybe one further.
posted on 16/6/16
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 32 seconds ago
Whilst not a fantastic performance, England should be given credit for today's win, it's never easy when a team parks the bus, no matter what level of football it's at
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Wales are a better team than many give them credit for as well. They picked up 4 points vs Belgium in qualifiers after all. We're still a long way behind the likes of Italy, Germany, France and Spain though.
posted on 16/6/16
Quite fancy Croatia for some reason. Think they'll go far into the tournament.
Re. England, just have to hope Roy sticks with Vardy and Sturridge now. Think todays match was never likely to be a classic, just about getting the win. Which they did.
posted on 16/6/16
The top teams will start putting in better performances as the tournament goes on. England will do well to scrape into the quarter finals. People point to the strike force, we still have an average midfield and a dodgy defence.
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Those assumptions are made based on history though. It won't be that big a shock for England to beat any of the fancied boys. Their defence, which you think is dodgy is one of the best in the competition. Their midfield isn;t the greatest, but it's solid enough not to get overrun.
posted on 16/6/16
Wales still parked the bus today,Neo.
posted on 16/6/16
comment by Koo Tee Neo (U9135)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 32 seconds ago
Whilst not a fantastic performance, England should be given credit for today's win, it's never easy when a team parks the bus, no matter what level of football it's at
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Wales are a better team than many give them credit for as well. They picked up 4 points vs Belgium in qualifiers after all. We're still a long way behind the likes of Italy, Germany, France and Spain though.
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I don't think England are a long way away from any of those sides. International football isn't like CL football. There are no Barcelonas or Real Madrids.
It's just a bunch of sides with players thrown together with inferior players than they're used to at club level. No international side is miles better than England. That doesn't mean England are world class. More that no international side is world class. Germany are one of the worst defending champions I've seen.
posted on 16/6/16
We're still a long way behind the likes of Italy, Germany, France and Spain though.
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Italy arrived this tournament with one of their worst ever squads (their worst in my lifetime). Spain and Germany are miles off their peak level. It's not just a question of form, but key shortcomings in their team. France have a hell of a lot to prove considering their mediocrity since the end of the Zidane era.
posted on 16/6/16
Croatia might just be the best team I've seen in the tournament at the moment,though that in turn leads to Turkey being the worst team I've seen.
posted on 16/6/16
"Germany are one of the worst defending champions I've seen."
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posted on 16/6/16
comment by Lexington Sanchez 125.2 (U8879)
posted 14 seconds ago
"Germany are one of the worst defending champions I've seen."
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Good job I let my subscription to Pedant's Digest slip...
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Jimmy Saville was their biggest fan
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