comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
Regarding your comment about punching me, I would like to see that happen.
Would be most amusing
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Stop watching movies, you're embarrassing yourself
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Says Mike Tyson
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 16 minutes ago
If you were standing in front of me right now, I'd punch you
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Interestingly, this is exactly the type of thing 'The Ace Face' would write when he was losing an argument so you can understand why I got a little confused.
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
What name did you used to go by, by the way?
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He used to by that hard man 'The Ace Face'
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No I didn't. I'm not even trying to be a 'hard man'I just don't appreciate being spoken to in a patronising way. But I guess the vast majority wouldn't do it to a persons face
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Sorry term. The first search Item had 'The Ace Face' replying to you and I missed your name on the top line
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
What have I lost?
What is the value of the pound today compared with last week?"
It's gone from 1.30 down to 1.22 a difference of 6% so again what have you lost?
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I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
Regarding your comment about punching me, I would like to see that happen.
Would be most amusing
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Stop watching movies, you're embarrassing yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says Mike Tyson
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Nope, just reacting as most people would to being spoken to by an arrogant, obnoxious buffoon
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted about a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 16 minutes ago
If you were standing in front of me right now, I'd punch you
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Interestingly, this is exactly the type of thing 'The Ace Face' would write when he was losing an argument so you can understand why I got a little confused.
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I may enjoy an argument, but I think you know this isn't something I would usually post
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
Regarding your comment about punching me, I would like to see that happen.
Would be most amusing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stop watching movies, you're embarrassing yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says Mike Tyson
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Nope, just reacting as most people would to being spoken to by an arrogant, obnoxious buffoon
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Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
------------
You prove me more right with every post
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
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You prove me more right with every post
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Considering immigration was the number 1 issue on the minds of many leave voters, I do not see what you are laughing at.
Missed the point, again.
Turkeys voting for Christmas
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
What have I lost?
What is the value of the pound today compared with last week?"
It's gone from 1.30 down to 1.22 a difference of 6% so again what have you lost?
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I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week
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Then you should know that these things always even out. If you weren't expecting a volatile reaction to an out vote, then I suggest a different approach to investment.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
------------
You prove me more right with every post
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Considering immigration was the number 1 issue on the minds of many leave voters, I do not see what you are laughing at.
Missed the point, again.
Turkeys voting for Christmas
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Round and round we go again.
"I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week"
Hmmm. As do I so you will be aware it means nothing unless you're imminently about to sell when in fact with this depressed stock exchange you should maybe be buying and increasing your potential wealth.
That's what I'm doing.
Then you should know that these things always even out. If you weren't expecting a volatile reaction to an out vote, then I suggest a different approach to investment.
=============
I know, I did move most of my money elsewhere and will continue to do so.
The UK outside the EU is not such an attractive prospect
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
"I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week"
Hmmm. As do I so you will be aware it means nothing unless you're imminently about to sell when in fact with this depressed stock exchange you should maybe be buying and increasing your potential wealth.
That's what I'm doing.
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I bought some bank stocks on Friday. I'm down 8% lol
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
"I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week"
Hmmm. As do I so you will be aware it means nothing unless you're imminently about to sell when in fact with this depressed stock exchange you should maybe be buying and increasing your potential wealth.
That's what I'm doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I bought some bank stocks on Friday. I'm down 8% lol
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During oil price slumps, always buy oil and gas stock. ROI is phenomenal when prices inevitably bounce back.
Bought a sht load of BP stock after Macondo, made a killing, sold it and invested it in Tullow which was a very high risk investment and I've been hit but not as badly as I thought I would be
Banks and airlines are being particularly hammered which I am surprised about seeing as our banks have never been stronger.
The BofE set aside 250bn for immediate liquidity if it was needed.
3bn has been called upon with nearly every financial institution stating they have Kier than enough liquid funds.
I expect them to bounce back the most.
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
I don't agree that we have to join the single market I'm afraid.
We can still trade freely and pay the levy which averages out at circa 3%. Currency has dropped 6% and mutual customers/suppliers usually negotiate out any pain.
I'd be happier out altogether and forego all this nonsense on trying to make something work that probably will suit neither party.
probably won't suit either party.
Even
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
I don't agree that we have to join the single market I'm afraid.
=========
That's what they are all clamouring for. This is why it peed me off folk accepted this guff
There will be a general election when folk find out they have been misled
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHR?
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHR?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, read up about it
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHR?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, read up about it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We couldn't leave while in the EU
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posted on 29/6/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
Regarding your comment about punching me, I would like to see that happen.
Would be most amusing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stop watching movies, you're embarrassing yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says Mike Tyson
posted on 29/6/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 16 minutes ago
If you were standing in front of me right now, I'd punch you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interestingly, this is exactly the type of thing 'The Ace Face' would write when he was losing an argument so you can understand why I got a little confused.
posted on 29/6/16
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
What name did you used to go by, by the way?
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He used to by that hard man 'The Ace Face'
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No I didn't. I'm not even trying to be a 'hard man'I just don't appreciate being spoken to in a patronising way. But I guess the vast majority wouldn't do it to a persons face
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Sorry term. The first search Item had 'The Ace Face' replying to you and I missed your name on the top line
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 29/6/16
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
What have I lost?
What is the value of the pound today compared with last week?"
It's gone from 1.30 down to 1.22 a difference of 6% so again what have you lost?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week
posted on 29/6/16
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
Regarding your comment about punching me, I would like to see that happen.
Would be most amusing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stop watching movies, you're embarrassing yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says Mike Tyson
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, just reacting as most people would to being spoken to by an arrogant, obnoxious buffoon
posted on 29/6/16
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted about a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 16 minutes ago
If you were standing in front of me right now, I'd punch you
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interestingly, this is exactly the type of thing 'The Ace Face' would write when he was losing an argument so you can understand why I got a little confused.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I may enjoy an argument, but I think you know this isn't something I would usually post
posted on 29/6/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
Regarding your comment about punching me, I would like to see that happen.
Would be most amusing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stop watching movies, you're embarrassing yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says Mike Tyson
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, just reacting as most people would to being spoken to by an arrogant, obnoxious buffoon
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
posted on 29/6/16
Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
------------
You prove me more right with every post
posted on 29/6/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
------------
You prove me more right with every post
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Considering immigration was the number 1 issue on the minds of many leave voters, I do not see what you are laughing at.
Missed the point, again.
Turkeys voting for Christmas
posted on 29/6/16
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
What have I lost?
What is the value of the pound today compared with last week?"
It's gone from 1.30 down to 1.22 a difference of 6% so again what have you lost?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then you should know that these things always even out. If you weren't expecting a volatile reaction to an out vote, then I suggest a different approach to investment.
posted on 29/6/16
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted about a minute ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
Stupid people usually react that way. No surprises there.
They fail to appreciate that the problem lies with them and are venting at the wrong people.
A lot of leave voters think this way, which is why they hate immigrants
------------
You prove me more right with every post
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Considering immigration was the number 1 issue on the minds of many leave voters, I do not see what you are laughing at.
Missed the point, again.
Turkeys voting for Christmas
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Round and round we go again.
posted on 29/6/16
"I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week"
Hmmm. As do I so you will be aware it means nothing unless you're imminently about to sell when in fact with this depressed stock exchange you should maybe be buying and increasing your potential wealth.
That's what I'm doing.
posted on 29/6/16
Then you should know that these things always even out. If you weren't expecting a volatile reaction to an out vote, then I suggest a different approach to investment.
=============
I know, I did move most of my money elsewhere and will continue to do so.
The UK outside the EU is not such an attractive prospect
posted on 29/6/16
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
"I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week"
Hmmm. As do I so you will be aware it means nothing unless you're imminently about to sell when in fact with this depressed stock exchange you should maybe be buying and increasing your potential wealth.
That's what I'm doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I bought some bank stocks on Friday. I'm down 8% lol
posted on 29/6/16
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 12 seconds ago
"I invest in the FTSE 250 and in the Forex Market.
I am poorer now than I was last week"
Hmmm. As do I so you will be aware it means nothing unless you're imminently about to sell when in fact with this depressed stock exchange you should maybe be buying and increasing your potential wealth.
That's what I'm doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I bought some bank stocks on Friday. I'm down 8% lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------
During oil price slumps, always buy oil and gas stock. ROI is phenomenal when prices inevitably bounce back.
Bought a sht load of BP stock after Macondo, made a killing, sold it and invested it in Tullow which was a very high risk investment and I've been hit but not as badly as I thought I would be
posted on 29/6/16
Banks and airlines are being particularly hammered which I am surprised about seeing as our banks have never been stronger.
The BofE set aside 250bn for immediate liquidity if it was needed.
3bn has been called upon with nearly every financial institution stating they have Kier than enough liquid funds.
I expect them to bounce back the most.
posted on 29/6/16
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
posted on 29/6/16
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
posted on 29/6/16
I don't agree that we have to join the single market I'm afraid.
We can still trade freely and pay the levy which averages out at circa 3%. Currency has dropped 6% and mutual customers/suppliers usually negotiate out any pain.
I'd be happier out altogether and forego all this nonsense on trying to make something work that probably will suit neither party.
posted on 29/6/16
probably won't suit either party.
Even
posted on 29/6/16
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
posted on 29/6/16
I don't agree that we have to join the single market I'm afraid.
=========
That's what they are all clamouring for. This is why it peed me off folk accepted this guff
There will be a general election when folk find out they have been misled
posted on 29/6/16
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHR?
posted on 29/6/16
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHR?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, read up about it
posted on 29/6/16
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
My big issue with pulling out of the EU is that these guys cannot deliver on any of their promises.
So what we've decided to do is just screw ourselves for no discernable reason.
1) We will still be a participant in the Single Market
2) There will still be Freedom of Movement
3) Lose the Veto
4) Have no say in any law making and have to abide by it
5) Potentially break up GB
6) Weaken our market position and diminish our ability to influence the EU
Was just a complete balls up all round
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our courts should no longer be overruled by European courts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That has nothing to do with the EU
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ECHR?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, read up about it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We couldn't leave while in the EU
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