Koeman

According to the same LSE report, 'elementary occupations' accounts for only a very small proportion (16.2%) of immigrant labour though.

That's compared to a total of nearly 55% in the professions, managerial or otherwise technically-skilled roles.

comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
The vote was just for control and a common sense approach not an end to immigration. If there was a referendum for companies to pay proper tax it would get a lot more than 52% but realistically it's not gonna happen.
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Why is it not going to happen?

It certainly isn't going to happen if people vote for political parties who are disinterested in the redistribution of wealth. Is that what you're thinking?
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I'll vote for Labour if Corbyn's leader, I'm not sure he would have the power to do a lot of what he wanted.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I

BlueBells has already backed this up
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Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.

However if you do some research there is information on this;

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin

http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain

With this being an example of the information gleaned

"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
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No, but bluebells has seen loads of scrounging immis about, hasn't he?
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I think Bluebells said the same thing a while back on another thread. He was asked how he identifies immigrants in the job centre, funny sounding name, different colour skin?
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Maybe it's when the penny drops that they haven't been living at a UK address for that long?

Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 25 seconds ago
I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
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Maybe this is one of your problems.
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Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain.
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I think, to a degree, those who want to see the positive impacts of immigration will see them, and those who want to see the negative impacts will see them, wherever they live.

I've lived in Manc and Leeds (on the border of Bradford) for the last 35 years, and have seen overwhelmingly positive contributions.

comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
Koeman

According to the same LSE report, 'elementary occupations' accounts for only a very small proportion (16.2%) of immigrant labour though.

That's compared to a total of nearly 55% in the professions, managerial or otherwise technically-skilled roles.
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ah well you can report accurately on the 55% due to the professions.

The reality is no one has a clue about all the illegal immigrant labour that is going on in shady factories and other underground businesses in Britain, this is the problem with engineered statistics.

Anyone on a low paid job can still claim benefits, plus child benefit, access to NHS, schools etc. but pays no tax, those figures can't be right.

Koeman

"Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain."

I live in the same city. Liverpool isn't that bad for it. Couldn't tell you how many sign on, as I've no need to go the jobcentre. I notice quite a few working in the hospitality industry when I'm out and about and fair play to them. At least they're contributing.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 47 seconds ago
Koeman

"Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain."

I live in the same city. Liverpool isn't that bad for it. Couldn't tell you how many sign on, as I've no need to go the jobcentre.
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Give me an exact number

comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 25 seconds ago
I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
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Maybe this is one of your problems.
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Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain.
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I think, to a degree, those who want to see the positive impacts of immigration will see them, and those who want to see the negative impacts will see them, wherever they live.

I've lived in Manc and Leeds (on the border of Bradford) for the last 35 years, and have seen overwhelmingly positive contributions.
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I see some positive impacts and I want to see more but I do want to be able to control the numbers at the same time.

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.


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Yes and your claim about immigrants being state dependant has been proven wrong. They contribute far more than they take out meaning there is more money to spend on public services.

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 47 seconds ago
Koeman

"Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain."

I live in the same city. Liverpool isn't that bad for it. Couldn't tell you how many sign on, as I've no need to go the jobcentre.
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Give me an exact number
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You missed a huge chunk of my comment, well done

Did I claim immigrants in Liverpool are contributing or a drain on the city? Nope.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.


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Yes and your claim about immigrants being state dependant has been proven wrong. They contribute far more than they take out meaning there is more money to spend on public services.


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In theory there is more money available, in reality it will not be made available, wake up FFS

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 47 seconds ago
Koeman

"Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain."

I live in the same city. Liverpool isn't that bad for it. Couldn't tell you how many sign on, as I've no need to go the jobcentre.
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Give me an exact number
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You missed a huge chunk of my comment, well done

Did I claim immigrants in Liverpool are contributing or a drain on the city? Nope.
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Like I said - really clever isn't it

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.


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Yes and your claim about immigrants being state dependant has been proven wrong. They contribute far more than they take out meaning there is more money to spend on public services.


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In theory there is more money available, in reality it will not be made available, wake up FFS
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Yes and that is something you should be blaming our government on, and not immigrants.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.


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Yes and your claim about immigrants being state dependant has been proven wrong. They contribute far more than they take out meaning there is more money to spend on public services.


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In theory there is more money available, in reality it will not be made available, wake up FFS
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Yes and that is something you should be blaming our government on, and not immigrants.


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we're are not taking record numbers of politicians in are we?

It's not about Blame it's about British people's livelihoods ha ha

It's just getting silly now any time anyone suggests a sensible immigration policy, the tolerant are very tolerant until someone thinks differently to them then they are very intolerant, hey feet?

comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.


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Yes and your claim about immigrants being state dependant has been proven wrong. They contribute far more than they take out meaning there is more money to spend on public services.


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In theory there is more money available, in reality it will not be made available, wake up FFS
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Yes and that is something you should be blaming our government on, and not immigrants.


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we're are not taking record numbers of politicians in are we?

It's not about Blame it's about British people's livelihoodsha ha
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Do you even know what you're on about now?

Even Bernard Manning made a more coherent point.

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.


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Yes and your claim about immigrants being state dependant has been proven wrong. They contribute far more than they take out meaning there is more money to spend on public services.


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In theory there is more money available, in reality it will not be made available, wake up FFS
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Yes and that is something you should be blaming our government on, and not immigrants.


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we're are not taking record numbers of politicians in are we?

It's not about Blame it's about British people's livelihoodsha ha
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Do you even know what you're on about now?

Even Bernard Manning made a more coherent point.


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tbh I'm just taking the Pee with you now you strange brew

comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 2 minutes ago
Koeman

"How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people"

Yep, your 'a good number of immigrants are state dependant' comment had nothing to do with money at all




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again your anger and prejudice towards me is resulting in you failing to see the point I am making, If you are state dependant you are not paying in you are taking out which adds to the lack of money available to spend on local services but you now have even more people to provide them for, so no it isn't about money.


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Yes and your claim about immigrants being state dependant has been proven wrong. They contribute far more than they take out meaning there is more money to spend on public services.


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In theory there is more money available, in reality it will not be made available, wake up FFS
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Yes and that is something you should be blaming our government on, and not immigrants.


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we're are not taking record numbers of politicians in are we?

It's not about Blame it's about British people's livelihoodsha ha
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Do you even know what you're on about now?

Even Bernard Manning made a more coherent point.


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jeez the amount of Corbynites on here is quite scary

it's like owning a house but not having a lock, so anyone on your street can come and stay whenever they want

to them it's not your house, it's everyone's house everything is everyone's and we're going to sit and sing and make daisy chains, and at our expense

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 5 minutes ago
it's like owning a house but not having a lock, so anyone on your street can come and stay whenever they want
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Is it fack.