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comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
Never considered Hitler as left wing.

The way I've seen it; extreme leftism = communism, extreme rightism = fascism.
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Too simplistic bud.Stalin was a leftist facist and hitler a national socialist.

Far left and right are facist, brutal and bigotted.

Labels mean jack.

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comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
Never considered Hitler as left wing.

The way I've seen it; extreme leftism = communism, extreme rightism = fascism.
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Too simplistic bud.Stalin was a leftist facist and hitler a national socialist.

Far left and right are facist, brutal and bigotted.

Labels mean jack.
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Not saying they can't be deviated from. But yeah that's the simplest form of it.

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It's incredible imo that people are so obsessed with their right to be offended, that they consider themselves on a par with those who were forced into hard labour and starved or gassed to death, on the basis that theyve heard someone say that mexicans should only be allowed to enter contries theyve got a visa for.

Wtf has happened to this world ?

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What our society needs is for there to be equality and freedom from prejudice, without the creation of a culture built on a sense of entitlement. For me, Trump is likely to be a step in that direction.

I wish him, america and western culture luck in that regard.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
Stalin was a brutal dictator of the left Hitler a brutal dictator of the right.
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Making left and right wing meaningless, really, in this context.

Both are facist thugs, dictators, demogogues.....both use nationalism too.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JSpurs (U1059)
posted 1 minute ago
It's incredible imo that people are so obsessed with their right to be offended, that they consider themselves on a par with those who were forced into hard labour and starved or gassed to death, on the basis that theyve heard someone say that mexicans should only be allowed to enter contries theyve got a visa for.

Wtf has happened to this world ?
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Things change. I would like to think for the better. You don't want to go back to the days of open racism do you?
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No, as colour is accident of birth.

Black and asian voters in the uk and usa also oppose mass uncontrolled immigration, along with white voters

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JSpurs (U1059)
posted 1 minute ago
It's incredible imo that people are so obsessed with their right to be offended, that they consider themselves on a par with those who were forced into hard labour and starved or gassed to death, on the basis that theyve heard someone say that mexicans should only be allowed to enter contries theyve got a visa for.

Wtf has happened to this world ?
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Things change. I would like to think for the better. You don't want to go back to the days of open racism do you?
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I dont want any racism.

I also dont want people brought up being taught that they are special and hard done by on the basis that they are from a minority or former minority group.

I'd rather everybody gets on with their lives as equals, quits moaning, pulls their weight, and thinks not what society can do for them, but what they can do for themselves and for society as a whole.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by JSpurs (U1059)
posted 3 minutes ago
What our society needs is for there to be equality and freedom from prejudice, without the creation of a culture built on a sense of entitlement. For me, Trump is likely to be a step in that direction.

I wish him, america and western culture luck in that regard.
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Don't really see Trump as the man setting the moral standards of the world but hey whatever you think...
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I think i'll wait and see.

comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
Stalin was a brutal dictator of the left Hitler a brutal dictator of the right.
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Making left and right wing meaningless, really, in this context.

Both are facist thugs, dictators, demogogues.....both use nationalism too.
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The BLM movement, today's third wave feminism, Socialist Workers Party, Hope not Hate organisation, BNP and all white supremacist parties, hard line communists to name a few are all in their behaviour fascists.

Left and right are increasingly unhelpful terms, but I can see how left leaning principles might eventually lead to unfavourable traits and disengagement with electorate.

Broadly speaking, left wing ideologies are in favour of equality, redistribution of wealth, strong public services and social justice. Enacting these principles will typically require large government, with significant finances, and control.

To massively over-simplify this, if taken to the extreme is ultimately if left unchecked going to lead to vested interests, and corruption and perhaps a level of authoritarianism, or if kept in check require high levels of bureaucracy. Either way, it's likely that this is going to lead to a government bubble, either out of touch with its electorate, or unresponsive to change.

comment by Park Lane Geezer (U10205)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
Stalin was a brutal dictator of the left Hitler a brutal dictator of the right.
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Making left and right wing meaningless, really, in this context.

Both are facist thugs, dictators, demogogues.....both use nationalism too.
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The BLM movement, today's third wave feminism, Socialist Workers Party, Hope not Hate organisation, BNP and all white supremacist parties, hard line communists to name a few are all in their behaviour fascists.
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Exactly, humans suck at times, and find new ways to hate each other.