comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think you misunderstand my post, as I cannot put it any more clearly.
I am responding to a new leftist ideology placing blame on whites and whiteness, not necessarily individual posts here.
Not all leftist views are nice or good for society, just as not all so called right wing or populist views are racist or facist or bad for society.
Being a corbynista or black lives matter fan does not equate to wisdom or good.....and being a unionist, nationalist or leave voter is not evil or stupid.
Have a good ya all.
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Of course not everything left or right is good or bad. Perhaps my previous post to this one sheds a bit of light on my own perspective. I can give you further background info if it helps, but I clearly remember as if it were today very, very clear examples from people I held very close to my heart of overt racism in 1970s London, when I was still too young to even know what the term 'racist' meant.
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comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
My point was, people in the UK are now labelled racist by sizzle types, if they vote brexit, but until fifty years ago, we would not even have though about co!our, or calling ourselves white etc etc....rightly or wrongly, racial issues come from the multi- culturalism experiment.
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tbab, I find you very disconcerting.
I fully subscribe your opening paragraph, and you very often make statements in this vein, but then you go and veer in the absolute opposite direction.
With all due response, tbab, either you've worded that last para remarkably poorly or it's complete and utter nonsense.
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Again to clarify.
I, like most people, never considered my race pigmentation or me being a "white" or my whiteness as important or relevant, until some start hurling abuse.
The over forty brexit voter being labelled racist is part of this bull, especially as it was not a white power, keep foreigners out vote.
I simply meant, the tolerant people of these shores were never Interested in colour, and have whiteness thrown at us.......up until recent decades, people would never dream of using white to describe each othe in the UK....we were Geordie, or scouse, or northerner, and this is just fact.
Now, the same people are written off as racist by sizzle thinkers, even though race was never an issue for them.
From the sixties to now, a very short time, the UK, Europe and US have changed dramatically, and concerns about identity, community, economics faith and lifestyle are now paramount, in certain areas.
These areas would be termed, multi- cultural, and this works well sometimes, but not always.
People often do not care about neighbours, they live separate lives, and this can be on an individual or group basis.
Sizzle and others say whites do not mix, or racist old gits leave the east end for Essex, blah blah blah, but it works both ways.
I put that view across, to those who say it is whiteness to blame.
And, of course they counter the natzi muppets blaming muslims or black people or Asians for society ills, alone.
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Easy to blame whitey and racism for everything.
No responsibility needs to be taken.
And in vast parts of the world where whitey doesn't reside or govern.....?????????
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It's also easy to shrug it off and pretend it's not a problem.
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And s such as that achieve what?
Of course racism exists, but not solely among white people....and crime, poverty etc is complex, as my second post suggested.
Shouting at whiteness is easy and kinda racist, IMO.
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Racism isn't solely amongst white people. It does exist elsewhere in the world. That doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
It's like shrugging off peadophilia because there are necrophilliacs out there.
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I simp!y pointed out other reasons for failure, to expand debate.
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You say racism exists elsewhere, but anti- white racism is right here...sizzle for example, and in the States.
Until the sixties, people in the UK and Europe were not even thinking about being white,ffs.Now, one of the first questions on job applications asks folk to define their co!our.
So called melting pot is not always positive, as people divide and live separate lives, in the same town.
Social cohesion and community feeling is weakening now, as more people arrive, and demographics alter rapidly.
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Up until the sixties, black and Asian people had to think about being black and Asian. Maybe the playing field is just levelling and you don't like it?
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I will clarify......white racism led to apartheid, slavery and second class treatment for African American's, until the sixties, and the racism experienced by white people is nothing by comparison.
I want us to be equal, and saying I do not like a level playing field is insulting, but your opinion .
I hate all racism and racist bullying ....end of.
My point was, people in the UK are now labelled racist by sizzle types, if they vote brexit, but until fifty years ago, we would not even have though about co!our, or calling ourselves white etc etc....rightly or wrongly, racial issues come from the multi- culturalism experiment.
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Why do you keep harking back to fifty years ago as if it was some sort of racial utopia?
Only 38 years ago we had the white versus black football match. Black footballers were openly abused by the crowd. So whilst white people didn't have to think about being white, maybe that was a bad thing.
Things have got better since then but now they are regressing again. If you want to remain blind to it or brush over it, you become part of the problem.
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See my recent post to clarify.
Of course abusing black players was wrong......I am not defending racism.I am not claiming a utopia in the sixties, but providing context.
I do not hate black people, or base views on skin colour, end of.Let's debate with good nature, as I am not what you may think.
You are reading what you want from my posts, and ignoring all positives, all anti- racist words, my friend.
comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think you misunderstand my post, as I cannot put it any more clearly.
I am responding to a new leftist ideology placing blame on whites and whiteness, not necessarily individual posts here.
Not all leftist views are nice or good for society, just as not all so called right wing or populist views are racist or facist or bad for society.
Being a corbynista or black lives matter fan does not equate to wisdom or good.....and being a unionist, nationalist or leave voter is not evil or stupid.
Have a good ya all.
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Of course not everything left or right is good or bad. Perhaps my previous post to this one sheds a bit of light on my own perspective. I can give you further background info if it helps, but I clearly remember as if it were today very, very clear examples from people I held very close to my heart of overt racism in 1970s London, when I was still too young to even know what the term 'racist' meant.
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It is just wrong, and I am not defending racist skumin seventies London, and sorry if my posting suggests otherwise.
I Delpore racism, sectarianism, sexism, bullyying and thug behaviour, and try to direct loyalists here in NI to stay clear of race and sectarian hatred.......we see some assaults on Muslim, black and foreign worker's here and now in Dublin as well, sadly.
I am not some Allah hating BNP loon, and want to provide coherent analysis from another perspective, on here, and elsewhere.
Say no to racism.
Catch ya later, as away out up the Antrim coast.
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Easy to blame whitey and racism for everything.
No responsibility needs to be taken.
And in vast parts of the world where whitey doesn't reside or govern.....?????????
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It's also easy to shrug it off and pretend it's not a problem.
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And s such as that achieve what?
Of course racism exists, but not solely among white people....and crime, poverty etc is complex, as my second post suggested.
Shouting at whiteness is easy and kinda racist, IMO.
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Racism isn't solely amongst white people. It does exist elsewhere in the world. That doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
It's like shrugging off peadophilia because there are necrophilliacs out there.
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I simp!y pointed out other reasons for failure, to expand debate.
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You say racism exists elsewhere, but anti- white racism is right here...sizzle for example, and in the States.
Until the sixties, people in the UK and Europe were not even thinking about being white,ffs.Now, one of the first questions on job applications asks folk to define their co!our.
So called melting pot is not always positive, as people divide and live separate lives, in the same town.
Social cohesion and community feeling is weakening now, as more people arrive, and demographics alter rapidly.
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Up until the sixties, black and Asian people had to think about being black and Asian. Maybe the playing field is just levelling and you don't like it?
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I will clarify......white racism led to apartheid, slavery and second class treatment for African American's, until the sixties, and the racism experienced by white people is nothing by comparison.
I want us to be equal, and saying I do not like a level playing field is insulting, but your opinion .
I hate all racism and racist bullying ....end of.
My point was, people in the UK are now labelled racist by sizzle types, if they vote brexit, but until fifty years ago, we would not even have though about co!our, or calling ourselves white etc etc....rightly or wrongly, racial issues come from the multi- culturalism experiment.
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Why do you keep harking back to fifty years ago as if it was some sort of racial utopia?
Only 38 years ago we had the white versus black football match. Black footballers were openly abused by the crowd. So whilst white people didn't have to think about being white, maybe that was a bad thing.
Things have got better since then but now they are regressing again. If you want to remain blind to it or brush over it, you become part of the problem.
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I am not blind to racism, be it white or black....my point entirely.
As for people not viewing themselves as white here , fifty years ago...why do you say this may be bad???
In Northern Ireland and Scotland we do not refer to our skin co!our, and if we do, it is rare, but how is that bad?
Why does it matter and who cares?
I think you are projecting here, as it really should not be important, and if skin colour is, perhaps you have the problem, along with the racist planks.
Again, we have an anti- racist voice obsessing about folk using skin colour labelling, whereas I, the alleged racist, do not care what colour people are.
People are people, end of.
If you start dividing into black, white, gay, female, straight, Muslim, Jew, gentile, Sikh, atheist and so on, where do stop and what is achieved?
Weird world.The so called liberal and left are as bad as the rest, if not more extreme these days.The irony of their right wing attitude is parody paradise, and not aimed at this wolf poster, BTW.
Thebells
"If you start dividing into black, white, gay, female, straight, Muslim, Jew, gentile, Sikh, atheist and so on, where do stop and what is achieved?"
The need for this description of race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs came about as a result of the above groups of people experiencing racism and discrimination. Laws were brought in to stop this, both from a common law perspective, to stop racism/discrimination on the street, and to stop discrimination in things like employment/education opportunity.
I am white and I can honestly say I have never experienced any of the above. What 'anti-white' racism have you experienced?
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"It's far more important for leftists to keep referring to people as black, white, Muslim, jew etc. as it allows them to continue their identity politics game"
Yet it was the Tory party, more right/centre right, that introduced the Race Relations Act in 1958 to combat racism that was prevalent at the time.
comment by Passion Power -I'm a .....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 3 days, 18 hours ago
Ok, but you’ve taken these scriptures out of context, and you’ve interpreted them wrong.
1. “Ye without sin cast the first stone, as he stood in front of the prostitute.”
Ok, this is one thing I remember in church all those years ago, Jesus never said prostitution was wrong, in fact he told her to “ go and not sin any more”
The fact of the matter is all those guys that were accusing her sinned and even did worse!
2. “but because they took advantage of people to make money…”
misinterpreting scripture again, he got angry not because of that but because of how they were not using the temple for what God intended you can see it in the following scripture “My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.”
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But you see there is the same argument with taking quotes from the Koran out of context as well. You see a lot of that from vile groups like Britain First
Britain first what a bunch of clowns
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Britain first what a bunch of clowns
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But that's the issue, people can not blame the book, its the way people use the content, like with any book.
Some imams will use to benefit society, look at the charitable work done etc.
Some imams (extremists)/ hate groups (Britain First) will use it for damage to the human race.
You can take parts of it to suit your agenda. Same with Christian/Jewish/Hindu scriptures
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Humans, we're all as bad as each other regardless of race/religion. Intent on wiping each other out.
I'd argue considering humans are so bad having a book that we consider to be written by someone infallible is perhaps a dangerous concept.
Especially when everyone but the actual followers of that specific religion would agree the book was wrote by a human just as fallible as any other.
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I'd argue considering humans are so bad having a book that we consider to be written by someone infallible is perhaps a dangerous concept.
Especially when everyone but the actual followers of that specific religion would agree the book was wrote by a human just as fallible as any other.
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comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
Thebells
"If you start dividing into black, white, gay, female, straight, Muslim, Jew, gentile, Sikh, atheist and so on, where do stop and what is achieved?"
The need for this description of race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs came about as a result of the above groups of people experiencing racism and discrimination. Laws were brought in to stop this, both from a common law perspective, to stop racism/discrimination on the street, and to stop discrimination in things like employment/education opportunity.
I am white and I can honestly say I have never experienced any of the above. What 'anti-white' racism have you experienced?
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Depends on where you live.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38526570
Am I the only one who thinks Joe Biden is a bit of a legend? There's the above story then there's this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnqsD23iNA
Sorry this is the one I was looking for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHw9LU-njEY
comment by Galv's: Happy New Mike Dean (U10415)
posted 2 days, 16 hours ago
There's only one common theme really....
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Bad Authors.
Cout its really interesting what Trump has done to the normal way of things over there.
Republicans are all about patriotism and America usually but this has actually set the Democrats on the side of the intelligence agencies against the Republicans....
If he can stop the Republicans being the standard bearer for that sort of thing then its one positive at least.
comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
posted 6 minutes ago
Cout its really interesting what Trump has done to the normal way of things over there.
Republicans are all about patriotism and America usually but this has actually set the Democrats on the side of the intelligence agencies against the Republicans....
If he can stop the Republicans being the standard bearer for that sort of thing then its one positive at least.
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Yeah he's shifting the status quo re security services over there. Is it really wise to alienate your security services before you take office though?
I feel it wouldn't make too much difference to the job the security services does, as long as nobody actually leaves because of Trumps comments then I'd assume they'd still do a similar standard of job.
As long as it doesn't become a regular thing, then it would probably start affecting morale and performance.
I still can't believe he got away with arguing with the parents of a dead soldier, I imagine a democrat would have been shot for what he did!
For all the criticisms, and there are many, it is also fascinating in some ways.
Yes way
"As long as it doesn't become a regular thing, then it would probably start affecting morale and performance"
Comments made day before yesterday by Director of National Intelligence, Gen James Clapper, author of the report into Russian hacking, warned of exactly this.
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comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think you misunderstand my post, as I cannot put it any more clearly.
I am responding to a new leftist ideology placing blame on whites and whiteness, not necessarily individual posts here.
Not all leftist views are nice or good for society, just as not all so called right wing or populist views are racist or facist or bad for society.
Being a corbynista or black lives matter fan does not equate to wisdom or good.....and being a unionist, nationalist or leave voter is not evil or stupid.
Have a good ya all.
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Of course not everything left or right is good or bad. Perhaps my previous post to this one sheds a bit of light on my own perspective. I can give you further background info if it helps, but I clearly remember as if it were today very, very clear examples from people I held very close to my heart of overt racism in 1970s London, when I was still too young to even know what the term 'racist' meant.
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comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
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posted 7 minutes ago
My point was, people in the UK are now labelled racist by sizzle types, if they vote brexit, but until fifty years ago, we would not even have though about co!our, or calling ourselves white etc etc....rightly or wrongly, racial issues come from the multi- culturalism experiment.
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tbab, I find you very disconcerting.
I fully subscribe your opening paragraph, and you very often make statements in this vein, but then you go and veer in the absolute opposite direction.
With all due response, tbab, either you've worded that last para remarkably poorly or it's complete and utter nonsense.
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Again to clarify.
I, like most people, never considered my race pigmentation or me being a "white" or my whiteness as important or relevant, until some start hurling abuse.
The over forty brexit voter being labelled racist is part of this bull, especially as it was not a white power, keep foreigners out vote.
I simply meant, the tolerant people of these shores were never Interested in colour, and have whiteness thrown at us.......up until recent decades, people would never dream of using white to describe each othe in the UK....we were Geordie, or scouse, or northerner, and this is just fact.
Now, the same people are written off as racist by sizzle thinkers, even though race was never an issue for them.
From the sixties to now, a very short time, the UK, Europe and US have changed dramatically, and concerns about identity, community, economics faith and lifestyle are now paramount, in certain areas.
These areas would be termed, multi- cultural, and this works well sometimes, but not always.
People often do not care about neighbours, they live separate lives, and this can be on an individual or group basis.
Sizzle and others say whites do not mix, or racist old gits leave the east end for Essex, blah blah blah, but it works both ways.
I put that view across, to those who say it is whiteness to blame.
And, of course they counter the natzi muppets blaming muslims or black people or Asians for society ills, alone.
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Easy to blame whitey and racism for everything.
No responsibility needs to be taken.
And in vast parts of the world where whitey doesn't reside or govern.....?????????
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It's also easy to shrug it off and pretend it's not a problem.
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And s such as that achieve what?
Of course racism exists, but not solely among white people....and crime, poverty etc is complex, as my second post suggested.
Shouting at whiteness is easy and kinda racist, IMO.
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Racism isn't solely amongst white people. It does exist elsewhere in the world. That doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
It's like shrugging off peadophilia because there are necrophilliacs out there.
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I simp!y pointed out other reasons for failure, to expand debate.
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You say racism exists elsewhere, but anti- white racism is right here...sizzle for example, and in the States.
Until the sixties, people in the UK and Europe were not even thinking about being white,ffs.Now, one of the first questions on job applications asks folk to define their co!our.
So called melting pot is not always positive, as people divide and live separate lives, in the same town.
Social cohesion and community feeling is weakening now, as more people arrive, and demographics alter rapidly.
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Up until the sixties, black and Asian people had to think about being black and Asian. Maybe the playing field is just levelling and you don't like it?
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I will clarify......white racism led to apartheid, slavery and second class treatment for African American's, until the sixties, and the racism experienced by white people is nothing by comparison.
I want us to be equal, and saying I do not like a level playing field is insulting, but your opinion .
I hate all racism and racist bullying ....end of.
My point was, people in the UK are now labelled racist by sizzle types, if they vote brexit, but until fifty years ago, we would not even have though about co!our, or calling ourselves white etc etc....rightly or wrongly, racial issues come from the multi- culturalism experiment.
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Why do you keep harking back to fifty years ago as if it was some sort of racial utopia?
Only 38 years ago we had the white versus black football match. Black footballers were openly abused by the crowd. So whilst white people didn't have to think about being white, maybe that was a bad thing.
Things have got better since then but now they are regressing again. If you want to remain blind to it or brush over it, you become part of the problem.
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See my recent post to clarify.
Of course abusing black players was wrong......I am not defending racism.I am not claiming a utopia in the sixties, but providing context.
I do not hate black people, or base views on skin colour, end of.Let's debate with good nature, as I am not what you may think.
You are reading what you want from my posts, and ignoring all positives, all anti- racist words, my friend.
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comment by Mourinho delenda est (U6426)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think you misunderstand my post, as I cannot put it any more clearly.
I am responding to a new leftist ideology placing blame on whites and whiteness, not necessarily individual posts here.
Not all leftist views are nice or good for society, just as not all so called right wing or populist views are racist or facist or bad for society.
Being a corbynista or black lives matter fan does not equate to wisdom or good.....and being a unionist, nationalist or leave voter is not evil or stupid.
Have a good ya all.
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Of course not everything left or right is good or bad. Perhaps my previous post to this one sheds a bit of light on my own perspective. I can give you further background info if it helps, but I clearly remember as if it were today very, very clear examples from people I held very close to my heart of overt racism in 1970s London, when I was still too young to even know what the term 'racist' meant.
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It is just wrong, and I am not defending racist skumin seventies London, and sorry if my posting suggests otherwise.
I Delpore racism, sectarianism, sexism, bullyying and thug behaviour, and try to direct loyalists here in NI to stay clear of race and sectarian hatred.......we see some assaults on Muslim, black and foreign worker's here and now in Dublin as well, sadly.
I am not some Allah hating BNP loon, and want to provide coherent analysis from another perspective, on here, and elsewhere.
Say no to racism.
Catch ya later, as away out up the Antrim coast.
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Easy to blame whitey and racism for everything.
No responsibility needs to be taken.
And in vast parts of the world where whitey doesn't reside or govern.....?????????
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It's also easy to shrug it off and pretend it's not a problem.
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And s such as that achieve what?
Of course racism exists, but not solely among white people....and crime, poverty etc is complex, as my second post suggested.
Shouting at whiteness is easy and kinda racist, IMO.
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Racism isn't solely amongst white people. It does exist elsewhere in the world. That doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
It's like shrugging off peadophilia because there are necrophilliacs out there.
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I simp!y pointed out other reasons for failure, to expand debate.
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You say racism exists elsewhere, but anti- white racism is right here...sizzle for example, and in the States.
Until the sixties, people in the UK and Europe were not even thinking about being white,ffs.Now, one of the first questions on job applications asks folk to define their co!our.
So called melting pot is not always positive, as people divide and live separate lives, in the same town.
Social cohesion and community feeling is weakening now, as more people arrive, and demographics alter rapidly.
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Up until the sixties, black and Asian people had to think about being black and Asian. Maybe the playing field is just levelling and you don't like it?
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I will clarify......white racism led to apartheid, slavery and second class treatment for African American's, until the sixties, and the racism experienced by white people is nothing by comparison.
I want us to be equal, and saying I do not like a level playing field is insulting, but your opinion .
I hate all racism and racist bullying ....end of.
My point was, people in the UK are now labelled racist by sizzle types, if they vote brexit, but until fifty years ago, we would not even have though about co!our, or calling ourselves white etc etc....rightly or wrongly, racial issues come from the multi- culturalism experiment.
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Why do you keep harking back to fifty years ago as if it was some sort of racial utopia?
Only 38 years ago we had the white versus black football match. Black footballers were openly abused by the crowd. So whilst white people didn't have to think about being white, maybe that was a bad thing.
Things have got better since then but now they are regressing again. If you want to remain blind to it or brush over it, you become part of the problem.
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I am not blind to racism, be it white or black....my point entirely.
As for people not viewing themselves as white here , fifty years ago...why do you say this may be bad???
In Northern Ireland and Scotland we do not refer to our skin co!our, and if we do, it is rare, but how is that bad?
Why does it matter and who cares?
I think you are projecting here, as it really should not be important, and if skin colour is, perhaps you have the problem, along with the racist planks.
Again, we have an anti- racist voice obsessing about folk using skin colour labelling, whereas I, the alleged racist, do not care what colour people are.
People are people, end of.
If you start dividing into black, white, gay, female, straight, Muslim, Jew, gentile, Sikh, atheist and so on, where do stop and what is achieved?
Weird world.The so called liberal and left are as bad as the rest, if not more extreme these days.The irony of their right wing attitude is parody paradise, and not aimed at this wolf poster, BTW.
posted on 2/1/17
Thebells
"If you start dividing into black, white, gay, female, straight, Muslim, Jew, gentile, Sikh, atheist and so on, where do stop and what is achieved?"
The need for this description of race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs came about as a result of the above groups of people experiencing racism and discrimination. Laws were brought in to stop this, both from a common law perspective, to stop racism/discrimination on the street, and to stop discrimination in things like employment/education opportunity.
I am white and I can honestly say I have never experienced any of the above. What 'anti-white' racism have you experienced?
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Ttliv
"It's far more important for leftists to keep referring to people as black, white, Muslim, jew etc. as it allows them to continue their identity politics game"
Yet it was the Tory party, more right/centre right, that introduced the Race Relations Act in 1958 to combat racism that was prevalent at the time.
posted on 3/1/17
comment by Passion Power -I'm a .....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 3 days, 18 hours ago
Ok, but you’ve taken these scriptures out of context, and you’ve interpreted them wrong.
1. “Ye without sin cast the first stone, as he stood in front of the prostitute.”
Ok, this is one thing I remember in church all those years ago, Jesus never said prostitution was wrong, in fact he told her to “ go and not sin any more”
The fact of the matter is all those guys that were accusing her sinned and even did worse!
2. “but because they took advantage of people to make money…”
misinterpreting scripture again, he got angry not because of that but because of how they were not using the temple for what God intended you can see it in the following scripture “My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.”
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But you see there is the same argument with taking quotes from the Koran out of context as well. You see a lot of that from vile groups like Britain First
posted on 3/1/17
Britain first what a bunch of clowns
posted on 3/1/17
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 21 seconds ago
Britain first what a bunch of clowns
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But that's the issue, people can not blame the book, its the way people use the content, like with any book.
Some imams will use to benefit society, look at the charitable work done etc.
Some imams (extremists)/ hate groups (Britain First) will use it for damage to the human race.
You can take parts of it to suit your agenda. Same with Christian/Jewish/Hindu scriptures
posted on 3/1/17
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posted on 3/1/17
Humans, we're all as bad as each other regardless of race/religion. Intent on wiping each other out.
posted on 5/1/17
I'd argue considering humans are so bad having a book that we consider to be written by someone infallible is perhaps a dangerous concept.
Especially when everyone but the actual followers of that specific religion would agree the book was wrote by a human just as fallible as any other.
posted on 5/1/17
comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
posted 8 hours, 13 minutes ago
I'd argue considering humans are so bad having a book that we consider to be written by someone infallible is perhaps a dangerous concept.
Especially when everyone but the actual followers of that specific religion would agree the book was wrote by a human just as fallible as any other.
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posted on 5/1/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
Thebells
"If you start dividing into black, white, gay, female, straight, Muslim, Jew, gentile, Sikh, atheist and so on, where do stop and what is achieved?"
The need for this description of race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs came about as a result of the above groups of people experiencing racism and discrimination. Laws were brought in to stop this, both from a common law perspective, to stop racism/discrimination on the street, and to stop discrimination in things like employment/education opportunity.
I am white and I can honestly say I have never experienced any of the above. What 'anti-white' racism have you experienced?
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Depends on where you live.
posted on 6/1/17
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38526570
Am I the only one who thinks Joe Biden is a bit of a legend? There's the above story then there's this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnqsD23iNA
posted on 6/1/17
Sorry this is the one I was looking for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHw9LU-njEY
posted on 6/1/17
comment by Galv's: Happy New Mike Dean (U10415)
posted 2 days, 16 hours ago
There's only one common theme really....
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Bad Authors.
posted on 6/1/17
Cout its really interesting what Trump has done to the normal way of things over there.
Republicans are all about patriotism and America usually but this has actually set the Democrats on the side of the intelligence agencies against the Republicans....
If he can stop the Republicans being the standard bearer for that sort of thing then its one positive at least.
posted on 6/1/17
comment by Yes way Jose (U5768)
posted 6 minutes ago
Cout its really interesting what Trump has done to the normal way of things over there.
Republicans are all about patriotism and America usually but this has actually set the Democrats on the side of the intelligence agencies against the Republicans....
If he can stop the Republicans being the standard bearer for that sort of thing then its one positive at least.
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Yeah he's shifting the status quo re security services over there. Is it really wise to alienate your security services before you take office though?
posted on 6/1/17
I feel it wouldn't make too much difference to the job the security services does, as long as nobody actually leaves because of Trumps comments then I'd assume they'd still do a similar standard of job.
As long as it doesn't become a regular thing, then it would probably start affecting morale and performance.
I still can't believe he got away with arguing with the parents of a dead soldier, I imagine a democrat would have been shot for what he did!
For all the criticisms, and there are many, it is also fascinating in some ways.
posted on 6/1/17
Yes way
"As long as it doesn't become a regular thing, then it would probably start affecting morale and performance"
Comments made day before yesterday by Director of National Intelligence, Gen James Clapper, author of the report into Russian hacking, warned of exactly this.
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