All Cellino is waiting for now is a big fat pay off if we make the Premier, I hope that while he's hanging on in there he doesn't open his mouth again but pays half of whatever is needed to get his pay off!..
Hopefully our newbie isn't daft enough to let him do what Gfh did to him, and by that I mean let him in but at the same time pay for the club to keep running?..
Wing that has to be one of the most sweeping and rash comments I've seen on here and there's been some competition!
Will stand corrected but under bates we were turning over £20 odd million with about a 50% wage bill, he was taking millions out of the club, haven't made money since.
Completely wrong don and I'll correct you
Over £30m in the champ and we were Turning over more in league 1 than our last figures under Cellino
http://lufctrust.squarespace.com/blog/2013/1/7/leeds-united-financial-analysis-update.html
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/why-leeds-united-is-still-so-far-from-operating-at-a-surplus-1-7770721
Sorry but turnover has dropped off a cliff
No offence to anyone but why just write things and guess, when there Google and tons of info
And am no bates fan at all and he is to blame for some of the things but let's not make things up like financially were doing. Better
Interesting stats LIW:
2011-12 (Bates)
Turnover £31.1m
Staff Costs £17.8m
2014-15 (Cellino)
Turnover £24.4m (why such a huge drop?)
Staff Costs £19.8m (how much of that is ex-coaching staff?)
I always said that some folk would never be able to do a U-turn and admit that Cellino has done well and has got the club into a better position whether by bringing in a partner or not.
It's cringeworthy reading all this rubbish about how Monk was 3rd choice and that we're in more debt etc trying to deflect from what is obvious.
All it ever needed was the right bunch of players to come in and do well and the crowds would flock back and turnover would as a result increase, as is happening now.
Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. Many on here were not at all convinced with Monk, saying how he failed at Swansea but Cellino gave him the benefit.
Even if Cellino has been advised to stay out of the way, or maybe he decided that for himself, well at least he has done that.
You have nothing to complain about anymore but still can't bring yourselves to admit Cellino has done well and almost achieved what he set out to do and sorted out a whole myriad of issues along the way.
Man up and admit you were wrong.
Morning Perth - well at least you stick to your guns! - I'll give you that! ( not much else tbough😂)
Actually Monk isn't even third choice, Cellino's had 5 coaches before him and lord knows how many other failed targets.
Most people here started supporting Cellino until at some point they realised how woeful is was.
The only person unable to show any change is yourself Perth despite all the evidence, from court cases, judges, football authorities, football writers etc etc, you simply seem to put your fingers in your ears and go la la la.
Lets focus on facts:
We are bringing in less revenue
We have wasted huge transfer revenues (Cellino's admission)
We have an owner who not once, not twice, but 3 times has been banned by the football authorities
The club has been in court more times for serious offences from Cellino's conduct in the space of 12 months than ever before.
The sooner this drug riddled compulsive liar and cheat is gone from Leeds and football in general the better.
My overwhelming feeling on news of Radrizzani's investment was one of relief. I concur with others on here that Cellino deserves some credit for appointing Monk, but we were always only 24 hours away from a negative headline and let's face it, the media have never needed much encouragement to slate our club (it sells papers after all).
I suspect Radrizzani has been involved behind the scenes for most (if not all) of this season and has found a way to muzzle the nutter. What other explanation can there be as Cellino's silence has been deafening.
I have also read some comments questioning Radrizzani's credentials and motives and given the succession of bad owners, I can understand that to a degree.
What is irrefutable is the quality of football we are watching, the positivity of the increased attendances at ER and the general feelgood factor which will be totally alien to our younger generations of fans. My kids (15 and 12) are gobsmacked at the difference in atmosphere and I told a kid of 20 in our village that goes home and away, that if it takes off, (as Radrizzani is intending) he'd better buckle up, because he won't have experienced anything like it!
The end of a long, long tunnel appears to be in sight!
MOT!
Think we all know Bates was skimming millions out of the club, think we all know Cellino was a loose cannon and not good for the club, think we all know that things are good at the moment so maybe we should all forget the past and look to the future, one thing I do know as Eddie says if this club takes off there isn't a better one anywhere on the planet,
I always said that some folk would never be able to do a U-turn and admit that Cellino has done well and has got the club into a better position whether by bringing in a partner or not.
It's cringeworthy reading all this rubbish about how Monk was 3rd choice and that we're in more debt etc trying to deflect from what is obvious.
All it ever needed was the right bunch of players to come in and do well and the crowds would flock back and turnover would as a result increase, as is happening now.
Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. Many on here were not at all convinced with Monk, saying how he failed at Swansea but Cellino gave him the benefit.
Even if Cellino has been advised to stay out of the way, or maybe he decided that for himself, well at least he has done that.
You have nothing to complain about anymore but still can't bring yourselves to admit Cellino has almost achieved what he set out to do and sorted out a whole myriad of issues along the way.
**** off Perth, what are you going to do in the summer when your little side earner stops?
As I recall, I may be wrong,
But didn't bates;
1. Sell off a lot of the services (catering etc.) to an outside company?
2. Levy future season ticket sales against construction work?
Both of these and ,god knows what else, should increase the turnover in the year they happened and subsequently reduce the turnover in the coming years?
Not saying Cellino is a saint, far from it, but I personally believe some credit is due
Cellino set out to buy back Elland Road and Thorpe Arch and have us in the Premiership in 2 years! YES HE ACHIEVED ALL THAT - 0%
Davidoff
Both wouldn't have reduced turnover
The upfront payment for catering would have been apportioned over the years affected( might have meant an increase or decrease in the revenue)
The other wouldn't have affected turnover at all
I see, my knowledge of accounting is slim but that seemed to make sense in my head.
In that case his tenure looks even more worrying given player sales and better attendances than under GFH. Heres to hoping radrizanni sorts us out proper
Cellino's legacy is almost destruction beyond repair, lets hope the new owner does right and treat the club like it should be. Failure to gain promotion any season is not good enough, Cellino failed. If we go up it's not down to him IMO, he's been told to stay out of the dressing room and talking in public.
comment by Perthwhite (U12455)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
I always said that some folk would never be able to do a U-turn and admit that Cellino has done well and has got the club into a better position whether by bringing in a partner or not.
It's cringeworthy reading all this rubbish about how Monk was 3rd choice and that we're in more debt etc trying to deflect from what is obvious.
All it ever needed was the right bunch of players to come in and do well and the crowds would flock back and turnover would as a result increase, as is happening now.
Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. Many on here were not at all convinced with Monk, saying how he failed at Swansea but Cellino gave him the benefit.
Even if Cellino has been advised to stay out of the way, or maybe he decided that for himself, well at least he has done that.
You have nothing to complain about anymore but still can't bring yourselves to admit Cellino has almost achieved what he set out to do and sorted out a whole myriad of issues along the way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I did a u-turn on Cellino ages ago!
At first I thought he was what we needed but after a while, like many others and hearing first hand what he was like to deal with, I decided and admitted I was wrong.
It's a shame his apologists can't do a u-turn too
I'm just wondering what he's doing differently at Leeds to what he did at Cagliari, I mean, he split the fans the same, he screwed the manacoaches the same, he bossed the authorities the same, he blamed the player's the same!..
Nope, he's doing nothing differently!..
So why the fig are Cagliari in Serie A!..
It sure as hell had nowt to do with him!..
But some will say he laid the foundations for them to flourish!.
"Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. "
Credit given by me.
Now tally up the negatives.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Does not make it a good clock.
The Cellino era has been one of stress and embarrassment and .... funnily enough ... the end year results on the pitch have shown mid-table mediocre stability. And according to Phil Hay, financial stability too.
Funny old world.
JLA - granted he got Monk - somehow!
My feeling is that he either got lucky or Monk had an idea what was gong to happen.
It's been common knowledge for ages that MC needed to sell or bring someone in. I'm sure Monk and his advisers knew this too.
So I'll sort of give him a minute bit of credit for that but it's minuscule compared to his debt
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posted on 5/1/17
All Cellino is waiting for now is a big fat pay off if we make the Premier, I hope that while he's hanging on in there he doesn't open his mouth again but pays half of whatever is needed to get his pay off!..
Hopefully our newbie isn't daft enough to let him do what Gfh did to him, and by that I mean let him in but at the same time pay for the club to keep running?..
posted on 5/1/17
Wing that has to be one of the most sweeping and rash comments I've seen on here and there's been some competition!
posted on 5/1/17
Will stand corrected but under bates we were turning over £20 odd million with about a 50% wage bill, he was taking millions out of the club, haven't made money since.
posted on 5/1/17
Completely wrong don and I'll correct you
Over £30m in the champ and we were Turning over more in league 1 than our last figures under Cellino
http://lufctrust.squarespace.com/blog/2013/1/7/leeds-united-financial-analysis-update.html
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/why-leeds-united-is-still-so-far-from-operating-at-a-surplus-1-7770721
Sorry but turnover has dropped off a cliff
No offence to anyone but why just write things and guess, when there Google and tons of info
And am no bates fan at all and he is to blame for some of the things but let's not make things up like financially were doing. Better
posted on 6/1/17
Interesting stats LIW:
2011-12 (Bates)
Turnover £31.1m
Staff Costs £17.8m
2014-15 (Cellino)
Turnover £24.4m (why such a huge drop?)
Staff Costs £19.8m (how much of that is ex-coaching staff?)
posted on 6/1/17
I always said that some folk would never be able to do a U-turn and admit that Cellino has done well and has got the club into a better position whether by bringing in a partner or not.
It's cringeworthy reading all this rubbish about how Monk was 3rd choice and that we're in more debt etc trying to deflect from what is obvious.
All it ever needed was the right bunch of players to come in and do well and the crowds would flock back and turnover would as a result increase, as is happening now.
Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. Many on here were not at all convinced with Monk, saying how he failed at Swansea but Cellino gave him the benefit.
Even if Cellino has been advised to stay out of the way, or maybe he decided that for himself, well at least he has done that.
You have nothing to complain about anymore but still can't bring yourselves to admit Cellino has done well and almost achieved what he set out to do and sorted out a whole myriad of issues along the way.
Man up and admit you were wrong.
posted on 6/1/17
Morning Perth - well at least you stick to your guns! - I'll give you that! ( not much else tbough😂)
posted on 6/1/17
Actually Monk isn't even third choice, Cellino's had 5 coaches before him and lord knows how many other failed targets.
Most people here started supporting Cellino until at some point they realised how woeful is was.
The only person unable to show any change is yourself Perth despite all the evidence, from court cases, judges, football authorities, football writers etc etc, you simply seem to put your fingers in your ears and go la la la.
Lets focus on facts:
We are bringing in less revenue
We have wasted huge transfer revenues (Cellino's admission)
We have an owner who not once, not twice, but 3 times has been banned by the football authorities
The club has been in court more times for serious offences from Cellino's conduct in the space of 12 months than ever before.
The sooner this drug riddled compulsive liar and cheat is gone from Leeds and football in general the better.
posted on 6/1/17
My overwhelming feeling on news of Radrizzani's investment was one of relief. I concur with others on here that Cellino deserves some credit for appointing Monk, but we were always only 24 hours away from a negative headline and let's face it, the media have never needed much encouragement to slate our club (it sells papers after all).
I suspect Radrizzani has been involved behind the scenes for most (if not all) of this season and has found a way to muzzle the nutter. What other explanation can there be as Cellino's silence has been deafening.
I have also read some comments questioning Radrizzani's credentials and motives and given the succession of bad owners, I can understand that to a degree.
What is irrefutable is the quality of football we are watching, the positivity of the increased attendances at ER and the general feelgood factor which will be totally alien to our younger generations of fans. My kids (15 and 12) are gobsmacked at the difference in atmosphere and I told a kid of 20 in our village that goes home and away, that if it takes off, (as Radrizzani is intending) he'd better buckle up, because he won't have experienced anything like it!
The end of a long, long tunnel appears to be in sight!
MOT!
posted on 6/1/17
Think we all know Bates was skimming millions out of the club, think we all know Cellino was a loose cannon and not good for the club, think we all know that things are good at the moment so maybe we should all forget the past and look to the future, one thing I do know as Eddie says if this club takes off there isn't a better one anywhere on the planet,
posted on 6/1/17
I always said that some folk would never be able to do a U-turn and admit that Cellino has done well and has got the club into a better position whether by bringing in a partner or not.
It's cringeworthy reading all this rubbish about how Monk was 3rd choice and that we're in more debt etc trying to deflect from what is obvious.
All it ever needed was the right bunch of players to come in and do well and the crowds would flock back and turnover would as a result increase, as is happening now.
Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. Many on here were not at all convinced with Monk, saying how he failed at Swansea but Cellino gave him the benefit.
Even if Cellino has been advised to stay out of the way, or maybe he decided that for himself, well at least he has done that.
You have nothing to complain about anymore but still can't bring yourselves to admit Cellino has almost achieved what he set out to do and sorted out a whole myriad of issues along the way.
posted on 6/1/17
**** off Perth, what are you going to do in the summer when your little side earner stops?
posted on 6/1/17
As I recall, I may be wrong,
But didn't bates;
1. Sell off a lot of the services (catering etc.) to an outside company?
2. Levy future season ticket sales against construction work?
Both of these and ,god knows what else, should increase the turnover in the year they happened and subsequently reduce the turnover in the coming years?
Not saying Cellino is a saint, far from it, but I personally believe some credit is due
posted on 6/1/17
Cellino set out to buy back Elland Road and Thorpe Arch and have us in the Premiership in 2 years! YES HE ACHIEVED ALL THAT - 0%
posted on 6/1/17
Davidoff
Both wouldn't have reduced turnover
The upfront payment for catering would have been apportioned over the years affected( might have meant an increase or decrease in the revenue)
The other wouldn't have affected turnover at all
posted on 6/1/17
I see, my knowledge of accounting is slim but that seemed to make sense in my head.
In that case his tenure looks even more worrying given player sales and better attendances than under GFH. Heres to hoping radrizanni sorts us out proper
posted on 6/1/17
Cellino's legacy is almost destruction beyond repair, lets hope the new owner does right and treat the club like it should be. Failure to gain promotion any season is not good enough, Cellino failed. If we go up it's not down to him IMO, he's been told to stay out of the dressing room and talking in public.
posted on 6/1/17
comment by Perthwhite (U12455)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
I always said that some folk would never be able to do a U-turn and admit that Cellino has done well and has got the club into a better position whether by bringing in a partner or not.
It's cringeworthy reading all this rubbish about how Monk was 3rd choice and that we're in more debt etc trying to deflect from what is obvious.
All it ever needed was the right bunch of players to come in and do well and the crowds would flock back and turnover would as a result increase, as is happening now.
Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. Many on here were not at all convinced with Monk, saying how he failed at Swansea but Cellino gave him the benefit.
Even if Cellino has been advised to stay out of the way, or maybe he decided that for himself, well at least he has done that.
You have nothing to complain about anymore but still can't bring yourselves to admit Cellino has almost achieved what he set out to do and sorted out a whole myriad of issues along the way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I did a u-turn on Cellino ages ago!
At first I thought he was what we needed but after a while, like many others and hearing first hand what he was like to deal with, I decided and admitted I was wrong.
It's a shame his apologists can't do a u-turn too
posted on 6/1/17
I'm just wondering what he's doing differently at Leeds to what he did at Cagliari, I mean, he split the fans the same, he screwed the manacoaches the same, he bossed the authorities the same, he blamed the player's the same!..
Nope, he's doing nothing differently!..
So why the fig are Cagliari in Serie A!..
It sure as hell had nowt to do with him!..
But some will say he laid the foundations for them to flourish!.
posted on 6/1/17
"Cellino recruited Monk - end of story. Give him some credit for that. "
Credit given by me.
Now tally up the negatives.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Does not make it a good clock.
posted on 6/1/17
The Cellino era has been one of stress and embarrassment and .... funnily enough ... the end year results on the pitch have shown mid-table mediocre stability. And according to Phil Hay, financial stability too.
Funny old world.
posted on 8/1/17
JLA - granted he got Monk - somehow!
My feeling is that he either got lucky or Monk had an idea what was gong to happen.
It's been common knowledge for ages that MC needed to sell or bring someone in. I'm sure Monk and his advisers knew this too.
So I'll sort of give him a minute bit of credit for that but it's minuscule compared to his debt
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