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The clown still thinks Wayne Rooney is world class. Years after he's done anything of note. He's a chocolate.
Never watch English football, and I live in England. Just not interested in it. My local pub has BT Sport, but has binned Sky. Landlord reports no downturn in revenue.
If that is a common thing then the new EPL TV deal cannot be sustainable in the long term. If/when that balloon bursts next time round the scheidt will spread a huge distance. Thank God we'll be will away from it.
Baz
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You can't pin point a wrong thing I've said. You don't speak for United fans, enjoy your internet "friends"
You can't pin point a wrong thing I've said. You don't speak for United fans, enjoy your internet "friends"
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I was merely voicing the opinions of others who have made points about you on the Utd board.
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posted 38 minutes ago
Baz
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You can't pin point a wrong thing I've said. You don't speak for United fans, enjoy your internet "friends"
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You are now my internet 'enemy'
En guarde
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Sad clown thinks he's funny though.
Shame 🙁
SLM
Have we clarified which kind of Manc you are? I've a feeling its Utd. but maybe you should switch to Citteh now that they "have got considerably more more moonay than yao".
Didn't know an innocent article would touch such a nerve
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Anyways, congratulations on the next 5 league titles. They might as well give you the trophies now.
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I would suggest the advertising revenue, or lack thereof, makes a SPFLtv station or whatever unattractive.
Ohh but I would like to apologise for SLM acting like a cant, I like to be factual but there is no need to go out your way to insult.
No no no.
Point out all the logical flaws in the argument by all means.
And while you're at it also recognise that it would take someone with many millions to come in and take the existing deal away from Sky and BT.
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I think the strictly logic argument would come down to ratios
Id agree its not subsidy - but also id state it simply is poor value for money for a scottish football fan. The darts argument is redundant as you cant apply any single sport crossover metric.
And jose your argument would be bang on in a larger market. Given the lack of new entrants with the.money.to do disruptive deals, however, it becomes theoretical only.
Conclusion? English football is the natalie portman of sport. Pretty to look at but ultimately doesnt put out.and isnt dirty enough to give you a chubby
Id agree its not subsidy - but also id state it simply is poor value for money for a scottish football fan. The darts argument is redundant as you cant apply any single sport crossover metric.
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Not sure why not....
Darts fans who buy sky just for darts pay just the same amount as Scottish football fans, but Scottish football gets a whole lot more money.
Although if it really does have to be within the same sport then the Welsh leagues or the N. Irish leagues, you could probably make the same argument that these people are subsidising Scottish football using the population to tv deal argument used earlier.
They aren't at all though, the product is priced based on what worth companies can get out of it, or more accurately the lowest they can get away with without getting outbid.
There aren't exactly huge players out there but various internet providers have started offering their own services including for example Virgin. These companies aren't necessarily going to go out of their way to get football coverage but if Scottish football was worth 12 times what it was currently paid then they would happily come in and make a killing.
If the lack of competition killed the price then the PL tv deal would similarly stagnate but the deals are close enough to their true value to ward off competition.
But i didnt argue it was subsidy - merely that it might not be good vfm.
Im not saying its vfm for darts. Or welsh. Or irish. Or indeed modern dance.
Merely that you have a larger market than you are paying for and that isnt good vfm for scottish football fans.
And internet providers are getting better but concentrating largely on easier products.
Virgin still tap into other providers for football. Its a difficult market. Wven silly things like access to media facilities at grounds is conplex enough - unless you are hospital radio!!
Like i say its the lack of disruptive competitirs that really kill us. We need a football oober. A legal one that is
I should have read your post a bit more closely.
The vfm argument is fair, there are some Scottish football fans who like watching the English football as well so that group could actually be argued to be the most privileged in terms of vfm (well as much as English football fans who also watch Scottish football)
But then those who really don't bother with English football at all, even the big games (because plenty of English fans probably don't do that either) do lose out in terms of vfm.
Though if they loved other sports that come with the package they might still get better vfm.
vfm is a bit of a shift from the original argument which made out some kind of tv provider conspiracy to steal money from the Scottish game for the English game.... which is my excuse for not reading it when I even quoted you saying it!
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posted on 26/2/17
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posted on 26/2/17
The clown still thinks Wayne Rooney is world class. Years after he's done anything of note. He's a chocolate.
posted on 26/2/17
A chocolate?
Pray tell.
posted on 26/2/17
I like rooney still
posted on 26/2/17
Never watch English football, and I live in England. Just not interested in it. My local pub has BT Sport, but has binned Sky. Landlord reports no downturn in revenue.
If that is a common thing then the new EPL TV deal cannot be sustainable in the long term. If/when that balloon bursts next time round the scheidt will spread a huge distance. Thank God we'll be will away from it.
posted on 26/2/17
Baz
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You can't pin point a wrong thing I've said. You don't speak for United fans, enjoy your internet "friends"
posted on 26/2/17
Shut up you oaf
posted on 26/2/17
You can't pin point a wrong thing I've said. You don't speak for United fans, enjoy your internet "friends"
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I was merely voicing the opinions of others who have made points about you on the Utd board.
posted on 26/2/17
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 38 minutes ago
Baz
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You can't pin point a wrong thing I've said. You don't speak for United fans, enjoy your internet "friends"
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You are now my internet 'enemy'
En guarde
posted on 26/2/17
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posted on 26/2/17
Sad clown thinks he's funny though.
Shame 🙁
posted on 26/2/17
SLM
Have we clarified which kind of Manc you are? I've a feeling its Utd. but maybe you should switch to Citteh now that they "have got considerably more more moonay than yao".
posted on 26/2/17
Didn't know an innocent article would touch such a nerve
posted on 26/2/17
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posted on 26/2/17
Anyways, congratulations on the next 5 league titles. They might as well give you the trophies now.
posted on 28/2/17
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posted on 28/2/17
I would suggest the advertising revenue, or lack thereof, makes a SPFLtv station or whatever unattractive.
posted on 28/2/17
Ohh but I would like to apologise for SLM acting like a cant, I like to be factual but there is no need to go out your way to insult.
posted on 28/2/17
No no no.
Point out all the logical flaws in the argument by all means.
And while you're at it also recognise that it would take someone with many millions to come in and take the existing deal away from Sky and BT.
posted on 28/2/17
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posted on 1/3/17
I think the strictly logic argument would come down to ratios
Id agree its not subsidy - but also id state it simply is poor value for money for a scottish football fan. The darts argument is redundant as you cant apply any single sport crossover metric.
And jose your argument would be bang on in a larger market. Given the lack of new entrants with the.money.to do disruptive deals, however, it becomes theoretical only.
Conclusion? English football is the natalie portman of sport. Pretty to look at but ultimately doesnt put out.and isnt dirty enough to give you a chubby
posted on 1/3/17
Id agree its not subsidy - but also id state it simply is poor value for money for a scottish football fan. The darts argument is redundant as you cant apply any single sport crossover metric.
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Not sure why not....
Darts fans who buy sky just for darts pay just the same amount as Scottish football fans, but Scottish football gets a whole lot more money.
Although if it really does have to be within the same sport then the Welsh leagues or the N. Irish leagues, you could probably make the same argument that these people are subsidising Scottish football using the population to tv deal argument used earlier.
They aren't at all though, the product is priced based on what worth companies can get out of it, or more accurately the lowest they can get away with without getting outbid.
There aren't exactly huge players out there but various internet providers have started offering their own services including for example Virgin. These companies aren't necessarily going to go out of their way to get football coverage but if Scottish football was worth 12 times what it was currently paid then they would happily come in and make a killing.
If the lack of competition killed the price then the PL tv deal would similarly stagnate but the deals are close enough to their true value to ward off competition.
posted on 1/3/17
But i didnt argue it was subsidy - merely that it might not be good vfm.
Im not saying its vfm for darts. Or welsh. Or irish. Or indeed modern dance.
Merely that you have a larger market than you are paying for and that isnt good vfm for scottish football fans.
And internet providers are getting better but concentrating largely on easier products.
Virgin still tap into other providers for football. Its a difficult market. Wven silly things like access to media facilities at grounds is conplex enough - unless you are hospital radio!!
Like i say its the lack of disruptive competitirs that really kill us. We need a football oober. A legal one that is
posted on 1/3/17
I should have read your post a bit more closely.
The vfm argument is fair, there are some Scottish football fans who like watching the English football as well so that group could actually be argued to be the most privileged in terms of vfm (well as much as English football fans who also watch Scottish football)
But then those who really don't bother with English football at all, even the big games (because plenty of English fans probably don't do that either) do lose out in terms of vfm.
Though if they loved other sports that come with the package they might still get better vfm.
vfm is a bit of a shift from the original argument which made out some kind of tv provider conspiracy to steal money from the Scottish game for the English game.... which is my excuse for not reading it when I even quoted you saying it!
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