There's a lot of ignorance regarding Conor in the boxing world, the more people like Kellerman underestimate him, the better he will look when it's all said and done.
He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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and so the bigging up of the fight begins, this is going to be a mismatch of epic proportions, if it was so easy why have the best boxing fighters of this generation tried and failed but no someone who is not even a pro boxer will figure it out
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 44 minutes ago
He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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and so the bigging up of the fight begins, this is going to be a mismatch of epic proportions, if it was so easy why have the best boxing fighters of this generation tried and failed but no someone who is not even a pro boxer will figure it out
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I wasn't bigging anything up I was merely stating as fact.
McGregor has access to footage of 49 pro boxing fights of Mayweather's to examine not to mention footage of his amateur fights as well if he wants.
In contrast Mayweather has zero footage of McGregor boxing apart from a few minutes of sparring. Mayweather will have to watch McGregor's MMA fights to get any real idea as to how he might box against him which is very far from ideal.
These are just facts.
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 21 minutes ago
He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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and so the bigging up of the fight begins, this is going to be a mismatch of epic proportions, if it was so easy why have the best boxing fighters of this generation tried and failed but no someone who is not even a pro boxer will figure it out
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Now, I am not saying I think Conor has a good chance in this fight, he's rightly a big underdog, but I don't think this is a great argument.
The best boxers in the world have tried to figure out Floyd, and failed, because Floyd has trained his entire life to beat those boxers.
I don't think Conor will start this fight in anything that resembles a traditional boxing stance, I expect him to stick to his own karate/boxing hybrid side on stance and leap in and out.
Will it work, probably not, but traditional boxing hasn't beat Floyd, so why try, he'll go out there and be as unorthodox as possible.
One thing i'm fairly certain of is this wont go 12 rounds, Conor will be looking for the kill and will take risks to achieve it, which will leave Floyd big openings, Conor will of course hope it will also leave him some openings of his own, and even though the boxing media and general mainstream media will have you believe Conor is some sort of brute slugger, that's not the truth, his timing, accuracy and power is at a very high level even in comparison to boxers, so unlike many I do expect him to land at times.
My main issue with how the fight has been reported so far is the disrespect being shown to Conor, he's a guy who can earn $50m a year fighting in MMA, but he's got the balls to step in and risk humiliation against one of the best boxers of all time, he deserves a lot more credit, lets not forget that this is a fight with a ruleset that favours Floyd.
With any other combat rule set or no rule set at all Floyd would be very lucky to survive a minute with Conor.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 day, 21 hours ago
Tennis is not boxing.
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No it isn't but it is a sport and you were the one who originally brought up Formula One as an analogy.
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No, my analogy was motor sport, Formula One just being one part of Motor sport.
And my point was, even amateur boxing is a different sport to boxing, obviously very similar but that is why they need time to transition even if you are at the very top of the amateur game.
Boxing is to MMA is what Tennis is to badminton
Do you think Federer could take part in his first badminton tournament and win it?
Maidana and Castillo beat Floyd.
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comment by GIRTH (U3245)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 39 seconds ago
Maidana and Castillo beat Floyd.
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you actually believe that
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Most people agree they did. Floyd got some gifts.
And he had to put Maidana in pillows
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Mayweather should beat CM 99 times out of 100 but the simple fact remains that Floyd Jnr is 40 years old, his hands are brittle and he's not fought for 2 years.
CM has a punchers chance.
And the comment questioning CM and his gas tank!
He'd only fought at 145lbs in the UFC and then jumped up to 170lb to fight Diaz, almost 2 stone ffs. He then went the full 5 in the next Diaz fight and has finished everyone else. Boxing won't fatigue him anywhere near as much as mma does.
Tennis is not boxing.
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No it isn't but it is a sport and you were the one who originally brought up Formula One as an analogy.
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No, my analogy was motor sport, Formula One just being one part of Motor sport.
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Fair enough but it doesn't change the fact that you used Motorsport as an analogy and then criticised me for essentially doing the same thing when I mentioned tennis. Odd.
Boxing is to MMA is what Tennis is to badminton
Do you think Federer could take part in his first badminton tournament and win it?
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Probably not but if Fed had started out in badminton at the age of 12 (as McGregor did with boxing) before he ever even picked up a tennis racket and if he'd been practicing badminton throughout his life while being a tennis pro at the same time then the idea of super talented Fed doing well in the tournament certainly isn't impossible.
This fight is no more or less different from a top talent starting out and being mismatched early in his career.
Roy Jones summed it up best ... as a boxing fight its nothing/meaningless, as an event its amazing.
The comparisons like Federer playing badminton are very stupid, Conor has been training boxing since he was 12, it's his base mma skill, he trained boxing exclusively from 12-16, and he's continued to train and spar for the last 12 years, of course that won't be enough to outbox Floyd, but he can box to a very good level.
The only comparison the has any weight is a racing driver like Alonso driving in the indy 500.
comment by Sjb1888 (U5188)
posted 22 minutes ago
The comparisons like Federer playing badminton are very stupid, Conor has been training boxing since he was 12, it's his base mma skill, he trained boxing exclusively from 12-16, and he's continued to train and spar for the last 12 years, of course that won't be enough to outbox Floyd, but he can box to a very good level.
The only comparison the has any weight is a racing driver like Alonso driving in the indy 500.
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Federer also played badminton
Federer also played badminton
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Is badminton the very first racket sport that Federer played since the age of 12 for a few years before getting into tennis at a later age? If not then your analogy is totally flawed.
Michael Jordan played baseball...
there can only be one Bo Jackson...
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
Michael Jordan played baseball...
there can only be one Bo Jackson...
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Exactly, playing a sport doesn't mean you are world class at it.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 2 days, 13 hours ago
Conor's gas tank doesn't get him past x3 5 minute rounds, let alone 12 rounds of 3 mins.
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He beat Nate Diaz after 5 five-minute rounds. Diaz fight was at 170 pounds, and MMA is far more exhausting than boxing because you're using your entire body.
Conor isn't going to gas against a smaller man who doesn't have the power to chase him around the ring. If anything, it's the 40-year old Floyd who's gonna get gassed... we saw what happened to Klitchcho in the 11th vs AJ.
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Please don't make comparisons between the greatest defensive boxer ever and Klitchcho.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 days, 13 hours ago
A peak 27 year old McGregor is not going to gas against a feather punching 40 year old, it's just not going to happen. The fact that some people are saying that shows how little they know about the extreme demands of MMA fighting or about McGregor himself.
Also McGregor isn't some kind of mindless thug who's going to chase Mayweather all night. He's an intelligent fighter who studies the art of fighting and movement in extreme detail. He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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What the hell are you on about? You talk as if you're the only man on earth that watched CM rise.
Different kettle of fish, but if a late bloomer like Algieri (who started out in martial arts) can hang with top boxers then Conor isn't going to get pummelled into oblivion. McGregor's a 2 weight UFC champion and a world class fighter, surely that's better experience than fighting 10-15 bum fighters?
Fully expect Mayweather to outclass him and win either a decision or a late stoppage, he won't be knocking him clean out in the first round though.
comment by RS 2000® I'm born genetically predis... (U9953)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 days, 13 hours ago
A peak 27 year old McGregor is not going to gas against a feather punching 40 year old, it's just not going to happen. The fact that some people are saying that shows how little they know about the extreme demands of MMA fighting or about McGregor himself.
Also McGregor isn't some kind of mindless thug who's going to chase Mayweather all night. He's an intelligent fighter who studies the art of fighting and movement in extreme detail. He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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What the hell are you on about? You talk as if you're the only man on earth that watched CM rise.
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Nah I never made that claim at all but it seems that boxing fans who don't watch any MMA have little idea what they're actually talking about when it comes to Conor so just trying to educate them a bit.
If McGregor was a good enoigh boxer he'd be a boxer, he's all about the money yeah? Lot more money in big boxing fights than big MMA ones.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 minutes ago
If McGregor was a good enoigh boxer he'd be a boxer, he's all about the money yeah? Lot more money in big boxing fights than big MMA ones.
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Yet in Forbes recently released highest paid athletes he was second only to Mayweather?????
Valid point KLS but that is far from the norm in the sport and to be fair it's mainly down to McGregor that UFC athlethes will be better paid.
I just think if he'd been good enough to be a boxer he would be one.
Still I'm looking forward to this fight it is what it is a stand alone show piece event.
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posted on 21/6/17
There's a lot of ignorance regarding Conor in the boxing world, the more people like Kellerman underestimate him, the better he will look when it's all said and done.
posted on 21/6/17
He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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and so the bigging up of the fight begins, this is going to be a mismatch of epic proportions, if it was so easy why have the best boxing fighters of this generation tried and failed but no someone who is not even a pro boxer will figure it out
posted on 21/6/17
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 44 minutes ago
He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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and so the bigging up of the fight begins, this is going to be a mismatch of epic proportions, if it was so easy why have the best boxing fighters of this generation tried and failed but no someone who is not even a pro boxer will figure it out
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I wasn't bigging anything up I was merely stating as fact.
McGregor has access to footage of 49 pro boxing fights of Mayweather's to examine not to mention footage of his amateur fights as well if he wants.
In contrast Mayweather has zero footage of McGregor boxing apart from a few minutes of sparring. Mayweather will have to watch McGregor's MMA fights to get any real idea as to how he might box against him which is very far from ideal.
These are just facts.
posted on 21/6/17
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 21 minutes ago
He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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and so the bigging up of the fight begins, this is going to be a mismatch of epic proportions, if it was so easy why have the best boxing fighters of this generation tried and failed but no someone who is not even a pro boxer will figure it out
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Now, I am not saying I think Conor has a good chance in this fight, he's rightly a big underdog, but I don't think this is a great argument.
The best boxers in the world have tried to figure out Floyd, and failed, because Floyd has trained his entire life to beat those boxers.
I don't think Conor will start this fight in anything that resembles a traditional boxing stance, I expect him to stick to his own karate/boxing hybrid side on stance and leap in and out.
Will it work, probably not, but traditional boxing hasn't beat Floyd, so why try, he'll go out there and be as unorthodox as possible.
One thing i'm fairly certain of is this wont go 12 rounds, Conor will be looking for the kill and will take risks to achieve it, which will leave Floyd big openings, Conor will of course hope it will also leave him some openings of his own, and even though the boxing media and general mainstream media will have you believe Conor is some sort of brute slugger, that's not the truth, his timing, accuracy and power is at a very high level even in comparison to boxers, so unlike many I do expect him to land at times.
My main issue with how the fight has been reported so far is the disrespect being shown to Conor, he's a guy who can earn $50m a year fighting in MMA, but he's got the balls to step in and risk humiliation against one of the best boxers of all time, he deserves a lot more credit, lets not forget that this is a fight with a ruleset that favours Floyd.
With any other combat rule set or no rule set at all Floyd would be very lucky to survive a minute with Conor.
posted on 21/6/17
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 day, 21 hours ago
Tennis is not boxing.
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No it isn't but it is a sport and you were the one who originally brought up Formula One as an analogy.
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No, my analogy was motor sport, Formula One just being one part of Motor sport.
And my point was, even amateur boxing is a different sport to boxing, obviously very similar but that is why they need time to transition even if you are at the very top of the amateur game.
Boxing is to MMA is what Tennis is to badminton
Do you think Federer could take part in his first badminton tournament and win it?
posted on 21/6/17
Maidana and Castillo beat Floyd.
posted on 21/6/17
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posted on 21/6/17
comment by GIRTH (U3245)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 39 seconds ago
Maidana and Castillo beat Floyd.
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you actually believe that
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Most people agree they did. Floyd got some gifts.
And he had to put Maidana in pillows
posted on 21/6/17
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posted on 21/6/17
Mayweather should beat CM 99 times out of 100 but the simple fact remains that Floyd Jnr is 40 years old, his hands are brittle and he's not fought for 2 years.
CM has a punchers chance.
And the comment questioning CM and his gas tank!
He'd only fought at 145lbs in the UFC and then jumped up to 170lb to fight Diaz, almost 2 stone ffs. He then went the full 5 in the next Diaz fight and has finished everyone else. Boxing won't fatigue him anywhere near as much as mma does.
posted on 21/6/17
Tennis is not boxing.
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No it isn't but it is a sport and you were the one who originally brought up Formula One as an analogy.
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No, my analogy was motor sport, Formula One just being one part of Motor sport.
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Fair enough but it doesn't change the fact that you used Motorsport as an analogy and then criticised me for essentially doing the same thing when I mentioned tennis. Odd.
posted on 21/6/17
Boxing is to MMA is what Tennis is to badminton
Do you think Federer could take part in his first badminton tournament and win it?
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Probably not but if Fed had started out in badminton at the age of 12 (as McGregor did with boxing) before he ever even picked up a tennis racket and if he'd been practicing badminton throughout his life while being a tennis pro at the same time then the idea of super talented Fed doing well in the tournament certainly isn't impossible.
posted on 21/6/17
This fight is no more or less different from a top talent starting out and being mismatched early in his career.
Roy Jones summed it up best ... as a boxing fight its nothing/meaningless, as an event its amazing.
posted on 21/6/17
The comparisons like Federer playing badminton are very stupid, Conor has been training boxing since he was 12, it's his base mma skill, he trained boxing exclusively from 12-16, and he's continued to train and spar for the last 12 years, of course that won't be enough to outbox Floyd, but he can box to a very good level.
The only comparison the has any weight is a racing driver like Alonso driving in the indy 500.
posted on 21/6/17
comment by Sjb1888 (U5188)
posted 22 minutes ago
The comparisons like Federer playing badminton are very stupid, Conor has been training boxing since he was 12, it's his base mma skill, he trained boxing exclusively from 12-16, and he's continued to train and spar for the last 12 years, of course that won't be enough to outbox Floyd, but he can box to a very good level.
The only comparison the has any weight is a racing driver like Alonso driving in the indy 500.
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Federer also played badminton
posted on 21/6/17
Federer also played badminton
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Is badminton the very first racket sport that Federer played since the age of 12 for a few years before getting into tennis at a later age? If not then your analogy is totally flawed.
posted on 22/6/17
Michael Jordan played baseball...
there can only be one Bo Jackson...
posted on 22/6/17
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
Michael Jordan played baseball...
there can only be one Bo Jackson...
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Exactly, playing a sport doesn't mean you are world class at it.
posted on 23/6/17
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 2 days, 13 hours ago
Conor's gas tank doesn't get him past x3 5 minute rounds, let alone 12 rounds of 3 mins.
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He beat Nate Diaz after 5 five-minute rounds. Diaz fight was at 170 pounds, and MMA is far more exhausting than boxing because you're using your entire body.
Conor isn't going to gas against a smaller man who doesn't have the power to chase him around the ring. If anything, it's the 40-year old Floyd who's gonna get gassed... we saw what happened to Klitchcho in the 11th vs AJ.
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Please don't make comparisons between the greatest defensive boxer ever and Klitchcho.
posted on 23/6/17
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 days, 13 hours ago
A peak 27 year old McGregor is not going to gas against a feather punching 40 year old, it's just not going to happen. The fact that some people are saying that shows how little they know about the extreme demands of MMA fighting or about McGregor himself.
Also McGregor isn't some kind of mindless thug who's going to chase Mayweather all night. He's an intelligent fighter who studies the art of fighting and movement in extreme detail. He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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What the hell are you on about? You talk as if you're the only man on earth that watched CM rise.
posted on 23/6/17
Different kettle of fish, but if a late bloomer like Algieri (who started out in martial arts) can hang with top boxers then Conor isn't going to get pummelled into oblivion. McGregor's a 2 weight UFC champion and a world class fighter, surely that's better experience than fighting 10-15 bum fighters?
Fully expect Mayweather to outclass him and win either a decision or a late stoppage, he won't be knocking him clean out in the first round though.
posted on 23/6/17
comment by RS 2000® I'm born genetically predis... (U9953)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 days, 13 hours ago
A peak 27 year old McGregor is not going to gas against a feather punching 40 year old, it's just not going to happen. The fact that some people are saying that shows how little they know about the extreme demands of MMA fighting or about McGregor himself.
Also McGregor isn't some kind of mindless thug who's going to chase Mayweather all night. He's an intelligent fighter who studies the art of fighting and movement in extreme detail. He'll know every single thing that Mayweather will do. Can Mayweather say the same about McGregor? No he can't.
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What the hell are you on about? You talk as if you're the only man on earth that watched CM rise.
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Nah I never made that claim at all but it seems that boxing fans who don't watch any MMA have little idea what they're actually talking about when it comes to Conor so just trying to educate them a bit.
posted on 26/6/17
If McGregor was a good enoigh boxer he'd be a boxer, he's all about the money yeah? Lot more money in big boxing fights than big MMA ones.
posted on 26/6/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 minutes ago
If McGregor was a good enoigh boxer he'd be a boxer, he's all about the money yeah? Lot more money in big boxing fights than big MMA ones.
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Yet in Forbes recently released highest paid athletes he was second only to Mayweather?????
posted on 26/6/17
Valid point KLS but that is far from the norm in the sport and to be fair it's mainly down to McGregor that UFC athlethes will be better paid.
I just think if he'd been good enough to be a boxer he would be one.
Still I'm looking forward to this fight it is what it is a stand alone show piece event.
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