I would've felt pretty patronised if I was one of his teammates. More like Messi owed the World Cup to Argentina. Which he duly delivered.
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
Brazil to destroy Argentina in the semi's with Neymar the chief protagonist
Why do Argentina perform so poorly though ?
They've got some real class players in their ranks.
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The same reason Liverpool i think...lack of balance.
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Messi the GOAT , you Ronaldo bum boys .
Hurts don't it ?.
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
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left out the likes of parades, dybala, icardi & banega for lesser players, needs sacking
Coming to us in translation and without context, I wonder whether the gist of this is lost. Could the real message he was transmitting be to place individual responsibility on each of the other 10 players, not letting them fall into the trap of relying on the superstar?
It will be interesting to see how Sampaoli fares now he has some time to work with the team without the pressure of qualification. He did a great job with Chile. If he can make Argentina something like the sum of its parts, they could be competitive again. I seem to remember that Brazil only just squeaked qualification for 2002.
I seem to remember that Brazil only just squeaked qualification for 2002.
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I was thinking about that earlier. Brazil also had attacking flair but were pretty average otherwise. Then they got a favorable draw for the finals and went from strength to strength. Argentina will probably do very well now, having just scraped through.
At this ludicrously early stage, though, I suspect France may be the team to beat.
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
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This.
The echos of Maradona are incredible really.
comment by harlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Messi the GOAT , you Ronaldo bum boys .
Hurts don't it ?.
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Probably hurts you more that you've never had in the history of your sheitty little club a player anywhere near the class of ronaldo
Messi the GOAT , you Ronaldo bum boys .
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as opposed to being a messi bum boy? yep you can hold you head up high with that insult
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
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You can do that without making out football owes some kind of debt of gratitude to a guy who has gladly benefitted to the extreme from clubs rinsing working class fans living on the breadline before hiding his gains from the taxman to the primary detriment of those same working class people.
Well there is that I guess.
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
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You can do that without making out football owes some kind of debt of gratitude to a guy who has gladly benefitted to the extreme from clubs rinsing working class fans living on the breadline before hiding his gains from the taxman to the primary detriment of those same working class people.
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Rossobianchi, I'd be interested in your response to my suggestion above that perhaps you've misinterpreted those words. What if in the context of other things he has said to the team every player knew his real point was that each of them had to take as much responsibility for the match as Messi? What if he was trying to challenge that psychological instinct to rely on the best player?
I also tend to doubt that many people have a big enough ego to feel bruised by the assertion that Messi is on a different planet to them in terms of footballing ability.
United don’t pay tax yet you have some of the most entitled fans on the planet.
Glass houses and that.
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 27 minutes ago
United don’t pay tax yet you have some of the most entitled fans on the planet.
Glass houses and that.
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Does it count as saying your own tax if you use somebody else's money...
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 27 minutes ago
United don’t pay tax yet you have some of the most entitled fans on the planet.
Glass houses and that.
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Does it count as saying your own tax if you use somebody else's money...
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Of course it does. As long as your taxes are covered I see no issue with where the money comes from, and I certainly won’t be regurgitating my breakfast over it like a fecking pelican.
I actually thought Argentina played better than Germany in the 2014 final.The missed chances by Higuain and an unfit Aguero particularly hurt them. Messi deliberately played behind the argentinean frontline players to provide the baance and that helped them get to the Final but in key moments some players missed bug chances.
Thats the game that Boateng literally saved Germany as that high line was pierced time and time again by Argentina.
Its funny that one game would have sealed Messi status in the game but what then happened was Ronaldo fluked a Euro medal and although Messi has played better than him in the last 2 seasons Ronaldo has won the Balon because of the number of club honours he has won, something Ronaldo fans used to argue when Ronaldo would be top goal scorer but Real would win nothing.
The argentina team is too imbalanced to win the world cup and I would rather play Messi in front anyway.
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
left out the likes of parades, dybala, icardi & banega for lesser players, needs sacking
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This
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posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
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You can do that without making out football owes some kind of debt of gratitude to a guy who has gladly benefitted to the extreme from clubs rinsing working class fans living on the breadline before hiding his gains from the taxman to the primary detriment of those same working class people.
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Rossobianchi, I'd be interested in your response to my suggestion above that perhaps you've misinterpreted those words. What if in the context of other things he has said to the team every player knew his real point was that each of them had to take as much responsibility for the match as Messi? What if he was trying to challenge that psychological instinct to rely on the best player?
I also tend to doubt that many people have a big enough ego to feel bruised by the assertion that Messi is on a different planet to them in terms of footballing ability.
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posted on 11/10/17
I would've felt pretty patronised if I was one of his teammates. More like Messi owed the World Cup to Argentina. Which he duly delivered.
posted on 11/10/17
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
posted on 11/10/17
Brazil to destroy Argentina in the semi's with Neymar the chief protagonist
posted on 11/10/17
Why do Argentina perform so poorly though ?
They've got some real class players in their ranks.
posted on 11/10/17
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posted on 11/10/17
The same reason Liverpool i think...lack of balance.
posted on 11/10/17
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posted on 11/10/17
Messi the GOAT , you Ronaldo bum boys .
Hurts don't it ?.
posted on 11/10/17
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
posted on 11/10/17
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posted on 11/10/17
left out the likes of parades, dybala, icardi & banega for lesser players, needs sacking
posted on 11/10/17
Coming to us in translation and without context, I wonder whether the gist of this is lost. Could the real message he was transmitting be to place individual responsibility on each of the other 10 players, not letting them fall into the trap of relying on the superstar?
It will be interesting to see how Sampaoli fares now he has some time to work with the team without the pressure of qualification. He did a great job with Chile. If he can make Argentina something like the sum of its parts, they could be competitive again. I seem to remember that Brazil only just squeaked qualification for 2002.
posted on 11/10/17
I seem to remember that Brazil only just squeaked qualification for 2002.
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I was thinking about that earlier. Brazil also had attacking flair but were pretty average otherwise. Then they got a favorable draw for the finals and went from strength to strength. Argentina will probably do very well now, having just scraped through.
At this ludicrously early stage, though, I suspect France may be the team to beat.
posted on 11/10/17
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
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This.
The echos of Maradona are incredible really.
posted on 11/10/17
comment by harlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Messi the GOAT , you Ronaldo bum boys .
Hurts don't it ?.
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Probably hurts you more that you've never had in the history of your sheitty little club a player anywhere near the class of ronaldo
posted on 11/10/17
Messi the GOAT , you Ronaldo bum boys .
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as opposed to being a messi bum boy? yep you can hold you head up high with that insult
posted on 11/10/17
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can do that without making out football owes some kind of debt of gratitude to a guy who has gladly benefitted to the extreme from clubs rinsing working class fans living on the breadline before hiding his gains from the taxman to the primary detriment of those same working class people.
posted on 11/10/17
Well there is that I guess.
posted on 11/10/17
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can do that without making out football owes some kind of debt of gratitude to a guy who has gladly benefitted to the extreme from clubs rinsing working class fans living on the breadline before hiding his gains from the taxman to the primary detriment of those same working class people.
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Rossobianchi, I'd be interested in your response to my suggestion above that perhaps you've misinterpreted those words. What if in the context of other things he has said to the team every player knew his real point was that each of them had to take as much responsibility for the match as Messi? What if he was trying to challenge that psychological instinct to rely on the best player?
I also tend to doubt that many people have a big enough ego to feel bruised by the assertion that Messi is on a different planet to them in terms of footballing ability.
posted on 11/10/17
United don’t pay tax yet you have some of the most entitled fans on the planet.
Glass houses and that.
posted on 11/10/17
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 27 minutes ago
United don’t pay tax yet you have some of the most entitled fans on the planet.
Glass houses and that.
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Does it count as saying your own tax if you use somebody else's money...
posted on 11/10/17
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 27 minutes ago
United don’t pay tax yet you have some of the most entitled fans on the planet.
Glass houses and that.
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Does it count as saying your own tax if you use somebody else's money...
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Of course it does. As long as your taxes are covered I see no issue with where the money comes from, and I certainly won’t be regurgitating my breakfast over it like a fecking pelican.
posted on 11/10/17
I actually thought Argentina played better than Germany in the 2014 final.The missed chances by Higuain and an unfit Aguero particularly hurt them. Messi deliberately played behind the argentinean frontline players to provide the baance and that helped them get to the Final but in key moments some players missed bug chances.
Thats the game that Boateng literally saved Germany as that high line was pierced time and time again by Argentina.
Its funny that one game would have sealed Messi status in the game but what then happened was Ronaldo fluked a Euro medal and although Messi has played better than him in the last 2 seasons Ronaldo has won the Balon because of the number of club honours he has won, something Ronaldo fans used to argue when Ronaldo would be top goal scorer but Real would win nothing.
The argentina team is too imbalanced to win the world cup and I would rather play Messi in front anyway.
posted on 11/10/17
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
left out the likes of parades, dybala, icardi & banega for lesser players, needs sacking
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This
posted on 11/10/17
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road (U18361)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 18 minutes ago
imagine being a Argentinian player hearing that guff
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The team talk definitely worked. Everyone either tried to get the ball to Messi as quickly as possible, or made tireless decoy runs to make life easier for him.
Have a look at the goal celebrations. Anyone here who's ever had to put all their faith in a skilled teammate will understand.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can do that without making out football owes some kind of debt of gratitude to a guy who has gladly benefitted to the extreme from clubs rinsing working class fans living on the breadline before hiding his gains from the taxman to the primary detriment of those same working class people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rossobianchi, I'd be interested in your response to my suggestion above that perhaps you've misinterpreted those words. What if in the context of other things he has said to the team every player knew his real point was that each of them had to take as much responsibility for the match as Messi? What if he was trying to challenge that psychological instinct to rely on the best player?
I also tend to doubt that many people have a big enough ego to feel bruised by the assertion that Messi is on a different planet to them in terms of footballing ability.
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