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This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.

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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
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comment by Covid 19 - 0 Bolton (U3090)
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This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.
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Which of either religion or racism isn’t man made?

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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Covid 19 - 0 Bolton (U3090)
posted 21 minutes ago
This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.
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So you think racism is what? A natural state of mind, or handed down by some god?
Just as adherents to any religion I've ever heard of believe they are special and better(?) than other people so do racists.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
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comment by Covid 19 - 0 Bolton (U3090)
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This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.
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So you think racism is what? A natural state of mind, or handed down by some god?
Just as adherents to any religion I've ever heard of believe they are special and better(?) than other people so do racists.
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And some anti-racists 😂

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
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comment by Covid 19 - 0 Bolton (U3090)
posted 21 minutes ago
This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.
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Which of either religion or racism isn’t man made?
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That's not the question though

I didn't say either is not a man made construct, but racism isn't as much a man made construct as religion.

There's a difference mate

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comment by Covid 19 - 0 Bolton (U3090)
posted 21 minutes ago
This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.
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Which of either religion or racism isn’t man made?
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That's not the question though

I didn't say either is not a man made construct, but racism isn't as much a man made construct as religion.

There's a difference mate
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Don’t see why you have it laugh like a child, like with your ‘crying’ comments, it makes you appear rather immature.

Ok so why is racism less of a man made construct? Surely it is either man made or not. How are there degrees of being man made?

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
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comment by Covid 19 - 0 Bolton (U3090)
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This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.
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So you think racism is what? A natural state of mind, or handed down by some god?
Just as adherents to any religion I've ever heard of believe they are special and better(?) than other people so do racists.
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Racism is a real life phenomena, sometimes physical and often provable and demonstrable, which you witness with your own eyes, or ears. Religion relies entirely on faith. I see them as completely different "constructs" personally.

Different or less man made?

Is sexism a man made construct at the same level as the tooth fairy, or Santa Claus?

I don't see it that way myself.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
Different or less man made?
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Racism is observed into existence. Religion is believed into existence.

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 37 seconds ago
Is sexism a man made construct at the same level as the tooth fairy, or Santa Claus?

I don't see it that way myself.
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Just because one is less believable than the other or more ludicrous than the other doesn’t mean they are less man made.

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
Different or less man made?
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Racism is observed into existence. Religion is believed into existence.
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Religion is observed, god/miracles and such might not be. Again they’re both man made. Unless you’re arguing that nature comes into it or Aliens or animals had some sort of influence I don’t think you can claim that one is less man made than the other.

Again, I didn't say either is or isn't man made.

You're arguing your own point as opposed to what I disagreed with which is that racism is as much a man made concept as religion. It simply isn't.

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comment by Covid 19 - 0 Bolton (U3090)
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This is hilarious. I went to a Catholic boarding school. It has taken me 30 plus years to realise what a load of spheres religion is!! So much wasted time worshipping nothing
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If you can teach kids about religion, considering that a lot of it is violent and brutal then why not teach the realities of race?

Lods can learn how Jesus was brutalised and crucified, learn about many wars where opponents were completely eradicated including women and children etc but apparently the same kids can't handle being taught about slavery and historical and current oppression based on race.

One is brainwashing and the other isn't. The one based on faith isn't brainwashing but the one based on fact is brainwashing.
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Right.
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I totally agree but with one caveat. Isn't racism as much of a man made constructs as religion. For some sad reason humans just seem to look for any reason for conflict
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How is racism as much a man made construct as religion?

I respectfully completely disagree.
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So you think racism is what? A natural state of mind, or handed down by some god?
Just as adherents to any religion I've ever heard of believe they are special and better(?) than other people so do racists.
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And some anti-racists 😂
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Rather not be racist.







I'm better than that.
Plenty of reasons to dislike people, race is just lazy.

Big story which Sunday Times doesn’t make enough of. They say officials fear Cummings will say Johnson missed 5 key Covid meetings at start of crisis as was writing his Shakespeare biography to fund his divorce settlement. I’d heard same from non- Govt source but couldn’t prove.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1396404772270346247

The story goes that Johnson received a £500k advance in 2016, has not wrote a word and the publishers were about to sue for their money back, so he had a choice to make, pump out a few chapters to avoid the courts or concentrate on preparing the country for an imminent national disaster.

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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
Different or less man made?
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Racism is observed into existence. Religion is believed into existence.
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Religion is observed, god/miracles and such might not be. Again they’re both man made. Unless you’re arguing that nature comes into it or Aliens or animals had some sort of influence I don’t think you can claim that one is less man made than the other.
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So you're saying racism is as man made a construct as religion?

Sounds laughable to me tbh but each to his own.

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posted 4 minutes ago
Again, I didn't say either is or isn't man made.

You're arguing your own point as opposed to what I disagreed with which is that racism is as much a man made concept as religion. It simply isn't.
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Ignoring my final sentence where I clearly said less man made. To be less man made something has to be made by something else other than just man. So what is it? Nature? Aliens? Animals? If none of those then racism is just as man made as religion.

I’m not arguing my own point, I’m even trying to help you make your argument which you’re making a meal of.

How is one less man made than the other? Being more fantastical or more observed is totally irrelevant.

Okay, Thorgen.
Racial superiority is a man made concept. As are religions.
Race us just a natural condition.
Could you agree with that?

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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
Different or less man made?
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Racism is observed into existence. Religion is believed into existence.
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Religion is observed, god/miracles and such might not be. Again they’re both man made. Unless you’re arguing that nature comes into it or Aliens or animals had some sort of influence I don’t think you can claim that one is less man made than the other.
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So you're saying racism is as man made a construct as religion?

Sounds laughable to me tbh but each to his own.
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Because you’re focusing on fantastical element and how believable it is. Which, again, has no relevance in the discussion of being more or less man made.

Religion is all fairytales

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
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Religion is all fairytales
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Just like racial superiority is a fantasy.

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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
Different or less man made?
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Racism is observed into existence. Religion is believed into existence.
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Religion is observed, god/miracles and such might not be. Again they’re both man made. Unless you’re arguing that nature comes into it or Aliens or animals had some sort of influence I don’t think you can claim that one is less man made than the other.
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So you're saying racism is as man made a construct as religion?

Sounds laughable to me tbh but each to his own.
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Because you’re focusing on fantastical element and how believable it is. Which, again, has no relevance in the discussion of being more or less man made.
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By your rationale then everything is man made.

Religion isn't observed into existence like you claimed. You need faith to believe in God and miracles. You don't need faith to believe that racism exists, supported by cold hard facts, cause and effect etc. Racism is scientific and provable.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is all fairytales
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Just like racial superiority is a fantasy.
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But racial superiority isn't racism itself.

Racial superiority is a fantasy.

Racism isn't.

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
Different or less man made?
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Racism is observed into existence. Religion is believed into existence.
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Religion is observed, god/miracles and such might not be. Again they’re both man made. Unless you’re arguing that nature comes into it or Aliens or animals had some sort of influence I don’t think you can claim that one is less man made than the other.
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So you're saying racism is as man made a construct as religion?

Sounds laughable to me tbh but each to his own.
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Because you’re focusing on fantastical element and how believable it is. Which, again, has no relevance in the discussion of being more or less man made.
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By your rationale then everything is man made.

Religion isn't observed into existence like you claimed. You need faith to believe in God and miracles. You don't need faith to believe that racism exists, supported by cold hard facts, cause and effect etc. Racism is scientific and provable.
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By my rationale or your inability to demonstrate how one is less man made than the other. I’ve even offered you reasons to explore to justify your position.

Again, you’re argument is just that one is more believable than the other which doesn’t demonstrate that one is more man made than the other.

Religion isn’t made up and unprovable, they exist and have done for millennia. God/miracles et cetera now that we can all agree are not proven but again that doesn’t make your point for you.

Nature would be your best argument to make but you’re refusing to make it.