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posted on 23/5/21

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posted on 23/5/21

racial superiority is a fantasy? is it really

in terms of sprinting for example, one could easily make the argument that people of west african descent have a genetic predisposition to be better sprinter than any other group of people

that could be considered a form of racial superiority

posted on 23/5/21

Well done Mamba - see what you’ve done now? 😂

posted on 23/5/21

Religion is scientifically provable. It exists. The teachings religions are based on are man made fantasies. Just like racism.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is all fairytales
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Just like racial superiority is a fantasy.
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But racial superiority isn't racism itself.
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But those who believe in it are racist.

posted on 23/5/21

Abrahamic religions contain in their texts historic events (some like the flood myths, are prehistoric and tell of events that happened at the end of the ice age)

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posted on 23/5/21

Again, you’re argument is just that one is more believable than the other which doesn’t demonstrate that one is more man made than the other.
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Don't fell me what my argument is. You only do that to male your own arguments sound plausible.

My argument isn't that one is more believable, even though that's another correct observation. Racism manifests itself in the real world sometimes physically so that you have to be ree tarded to suggest it doesn't exist. Like Gravity.

You can't say the same about religion.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is all fairytales
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Just like racial superiority is a fantasy.
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But racial superiority isn't racism itself.
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But those who believe in it are racist.

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then you must think that most football coaches in the UK are racist ?

because at academy level there is alot of bias in favour of young black players by coaches

they are viewed as having a higher celling (in terms of physicality) than young white players ?

I saw this many times during the years I followed my younger brother through academy football

comment by #4zA (U22472)

posted on 23/5/21

who says gravity really exists?

we have been told it does, but that is not proof f its existence.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 12 minutes ago
Okay, Thorgen.
Racial superiority is a man made concept. As are religions.
Race us just a natural condition.
Could you agree with that?
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Race /reɪs/ (noun): a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities (culture, history, language, etc.) into categories generally viewed as distinct by society.

The term was originally used to refer to speakers of a common language and then national affiliations. It is only more recently that it has been used to refer to physical (phenotypical) traits.

So initially, no, race wasn’t a natural condition. It was a purely human construct by definition. More recently, depending on its usage, it might be considered so, and possibly only in part.

From a phenotypical or genetic perspective, of course, the groupings we commonly use when debating modern Western racial politics are insanely facking narrow genetically-speaking. We may as well be debating people’s eye colours or the thickness of their facial hair.

A near-exclusively ‘white community’ might actually share more in common genetically with a near-exclusively ‘black community’ than with another near-exclusively ‘white community’.

So if we’re going to accept that ‘race’ is a natural condition, we could also do with recognising that humans have decided to select one of many phenotypical and very, very many genetic traits.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is all fairytales
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Just like racial superiority is a fantasy.
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But racial superiority isn't racism itself.
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But those who believe in it are racist.

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then you must think that most football coaches in the UK are racist ?

because at academy level there is alot of bias in favour of young black players by coaches

they are viewed as having a higher celling (in terms of physicality) than young white players ?

I saw this many times during the years I followed my younger brother through academy football
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Fek off.

posted on 23/5/21

Religion isn’t made up and unprovable, they exist and have done for millennia. God/miracles et cetera now that we can all agree are not proven but again that doesn’t make your point for you.
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No, that's your point, not mine. Again, don't tell.me what my point is because that's just you framing what you want to argue with so that you can be right all the time.

You don't know what my point is clearly.

posted on 23/5/21

then you must think that most football coaches in the UK are racist ?

because at academy level there is alot of bias in favour of young black players by coaches
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Naaah.

That's called meritocracy, not racism.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is all fairytales
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Just like racial superiority is a fantasy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But racial superiority isn't racism itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But those who believe in it are racist.

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then you must think that most football coaches in the UK are racist ?

because at academy level there is alot of bias in favour of young black players by coaches

they are viewed as having a higher celling (in terms of physicality) than young white players ?

I saw this many times during the years I followed my younger brother through academy football
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Fek off.
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posted on 23/5/21

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 50 seconds ago
Again, you’re argument is just that one is more believable than the other which doesn’t demonstrate that one is more man made than the other.
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Don't fell me what my argument is. You only do that to male your own arguments sound plausible.

My argument isn't that one is more believable, even though that's another correct observation. Racism manifests itself in the real world sometimes physically so that you have to be ree tarded to suggest it doesn't exist. Like Gravity.

You can't say the same about religion.

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Yes I can. Religion exists - god’s existence etc are what are not physically here or provable. You’d have to be a reeetard to suggest religion doesn’t exist.

Either way, you’re still failing to demonstrate why one is less man made than the other.

Racism exist in peoples minds, so does religious belief. People act on their racist beliefs, people act on their religious beliefs.

Both start in the mind, cultivated by man made ideas and thoughts.

You’re talking yourself into a corner yet again and we all know where that ends.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
Religion isn’t made up and unprovable, they exist and have done for millennia. God/miracles et cetera now that we can all agree are not proven but again that doesn’t make your point for you.
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No, that's your point, not mine. Again, don't tell.me what my point is because that's just you framing what you want to argue with so that you can be right all the time.

You don't know what my point is clearly.
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I don’t think you know what your argument is. You’re making it up as you go and then will change what you say we were arguing about to avoid having to admit that you were wrong or at best unable to demonstrate your claim that one is less man made than the other.

It’s what you do.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 14 minutes ago
Religion is scientifically provable. It exists. The teachings religions are based on are man made fantasies. Just like racism.
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Apparently not, one is more man made than the other for some inexplicable reason.

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posted on 23/5/21

comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 14 minutes ago
Religion is scientifically provable. It exists. The teachings religions are based on are man made fantasies. Just like racism.
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Apparently not, one is more man made than the other for some inexplicable reason.
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Surely all human societal constructs are man made?

for right or wrong
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That’s not the debate at hand.

Mamba is saying that one is less man made than the other.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by 4zA - No al Calcio Moderno (U22472)
posted 58 minutes ago
who says gravity really exists?

we have been told it does, but that is not proof f its existence.
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Yes there is.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by 4zA - No al Calcio Moderno (U22472)
posted 58 minutes ago
who says gravity really exists?

we have been told it does, but that is not proof f its existence.
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Yes there is.
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It's just a side effect of the world sucking.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 14 minutes ago
Religion is scientifically provable. It exists. The teachings religions are based on are man made fantasies. Just like racism.
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Apparently not, one is more man made than the other for some inexplicable reason.
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Surely all human societal constructs are man made?

for right or wrong
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That's how Sat Nav is looking at it.

posted on 23/5/21

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (U1282)
posted 50 seconds ago
Again, you’re argument is just that one is more believable than the other which doesn’t demonstrate that one is more man made than the other.
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Don't fell me what my argument is. You only do that to male your own arguments sound plausible.

My argument isn't that one is more believable, even though that's another correct observation. Racism manifests itself in the real world sometimes physically so that you have to be ree tarded to suggest it doesn't exist. Like Gravity.

You can't say the same about religion.

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Yes I can. Religion exists - god’s existence etc are what are not physically here or provable. You’d have to be a reeetard to suggest religion doesn’t exist.

Either way, you’re still failing to demonstrate why one is less man made than the other.

Racism exist in peoples minds, so does religious belief. People act on their racist beliefs, people act on their religious beliefs.

Both start in the mind, cultivated by man made ideas and thoughts.

You’re talking yourself into a corner yet again and we all know where that ends.
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Whereas most of this is true, that wasn't my premise. I didn't say there are no similarities in the premises.

When someone says they've suffered racism, that allegation can be proven or disproven with certainty. It can be scientifically deduced using facts and evidence. When someone says they've experienced a miracle then that cannot be proven and you need faith to believe a miracle has occurred.

Therefore, for this and any other obvious reasons, racism isn't a man made construct as much as religion is.

posted on 23/5/21

I don’t think you know what your argument is.
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This is where you stop and think mate. Its infinitely more likely that you don't know what my point is than me not knowing what my point is.

You’re making it up as you go and then will change what you say we were arguing about to avoid having to admit that you were wrong or at best unable to demonstrate your claim that one is less man made than the other.

It’s what you do.
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You had to start by framing my argument in your own words (and getting it wrong) instead of responding to my argument as I made it in my own words.

If you were responding to my actual argument, you wouldn't need to do that. You have to establish your own premise, from which I can be wrong and you right, you don't actually respond to my argument, but to your own, which is what you do all the time.

When you have to do that then that should tell you something.

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