comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 22 minutes ago
On the trans activist stuff, I'm not too clued up on the latest literature but instinctively it feels like it runs contrary to a lot of the goals of the modern feminist movement, which has been to try to break down the idea that there is such a thing as set or innate gender roles. I guess that's where the whole trans vs TERF twitter beef comes from.

I tried looking up some answers online but didn't really find any compelling arguments (yet) to explain how there's such a thing as a male or female gender identity while at the same time gender is a social construct.

I guess the other confusion I have is that if transgenderism is an incongruence between birth secs and birth gender, then why should the natural solution be to change the birth secs? Should changing birth gender not be an equal focus?
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This is a huge conflict and contradiction.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 22 minutes ago
On the trans activist stuff, I'm not too clued up on the latest literature but instinctively it feels like it runs contrary to a lot of the goals of the modern feminist movement, which has been to try to break down the idea that there is such a thing as set or innate gender roles. I guess that's where the whole trans vs TERF twitter beef comes from.

I tried looking up some answers online but didn't really find any compelling arguments (yet) to explain how there's such a thing as a male or female gender identity while at the same time gender is a social construct.

I guess the other confusion I have is that if transgenderism is an incongruence between birth secs and birth gender, then why should the natural solution be to change the birth secs? Should changing birth gender not be an equal focus?
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This is a huge conflict and contradiction.
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that's why many feminist are quite anti transgenderism

comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 22 minutes ago
On the trans activist stuff, I'm not too clued up on the latest literature but instinctively it feels like it runs contrary to a lot of the goals of the modern feminist movement, which has been to try to break down the idea that there is such a thing as set or innate gender roles. I guess that's where the whole trans vs TERF twitter beef comes from.

I tried looking up some answers online but didn't really find any compelling arguments (yet) to explain how there's such a thing as a male or female gender identity while at the same time gender is a social construct.

I guess the other confusion I have is that if transgenderism is an incongruence between birth secs and birth gender, then why should the natural solution be to change the birth secs? Should changing birth gender not be an equal focus?
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This is a huge conflict and contradiction.
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that's why many feminist are quite anti transgenderism
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Well they should know better then shouldn’t they?

i thort all u tunnel-visioned, morally empty Trump lovers had ur own thred now?, no?

comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 2 minutes ago
i thort all u tunnel-visioned, morally empty Trump lovers had ur own thred now?, no?
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comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 2 minutes ago
i thort all u tunnel-visioned, morally empty Trump lovers had ur own thred now?, no?
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Don’t think Trump has been mentioned on there.

Morally empty? How charming

Morally empty? Harsh.











But fair.

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comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
i thort all u tunnel-visioned, morally empty Trump lovers had ur own thred now?, no?
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Yeah crazy that people who kept being banned from the old politics thread for stupid reason made their own thread.
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When was NPEEE banned from the politics thread?

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 7 minutes ago
i thort all u tunnel-visioned, morally empty Trump lovers had ur own thred now?, no?
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Yeah crazy that people who kept being banned from the old politics thread for stupid reason made their own thread.
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When was NPEEE banned from the politics thread?
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He was banned next year.

Anyway let’s not turn this into something following 4za’s incorrect comment.

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Labour MP Zarah Sultana claims structural injustice over covid affecting BAME communities.

Bringing race into it AGAIN. These people must enjoy being made to look like fools.

Notice the subtle change in language by the way, structural injustice now rather than structural racism? A poor attempt to make it look like they’re not just making it about race (which doesn’t add up for several reasons one of which Kemi Badenoch makes) when all they mention is racial groups, that’s all they ever mention. Never cultural factors or socioeconomic factors, you know the real reasons for the differences.

Desperately seeking structural racism/injustice to keep emotions running high and making people believe there is a huge serious problem in this country.

You may fool the yanks with this strategy but most of us are smart enough to see this for what it is; pathetic race baiting to manipulate people for votes.

Absolutely abhorrent to use racism for political gain and anyone who swallows up this garbage are incredibly naive pawns. Thankfully the minority.

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 25 minutes ago
i thort all u tunnel-visioned, morally empty Trump lovers had ur own thred now?, no?
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And here's me thinking they hadn't taught apes to use ja606, yet. Wonders never cease.
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"Absolutely abhorrent to use racism for political gain"

yet u defend Trump

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Labour MP Zarah Sultana claims structural injustice over covid affecting BAME communities.

Bringing race into it AGAIN. These people must enjoy being made to look like fools.

Notice the subtle change in language by the way, structural injustice now rather than structural racism? A poor attempt to make it look like they’re not just making it about race (which doesn’t add up for several reasons one of which Kemi Badenoch makes) when all they mention is racial groups, that’s all they ever mention. Never cultural factors or socioeconomic factors, you know the real reasons for the differences.

Desperately seeking structural racism/injustice to keep emotions running high and making people believe there is a huge serious problem in this country.

You may fool the yanks with this strategy but most of us are smart enough to see this for what it is; pathetic race baiting to manipulate people for votes.

Absolutely abhorrent to use racism for political gain and anyone who swallows up this garbage are incredibly naive pawns. Thankfully the minority.
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She’s absolutely correct though.

The stats don’t lie.

comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 55 seconds ago
"Absolutely abhorrent to use racism for political gain"

yet u defend Trump
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I’m sorry but I don’t speak to people with morals. Only the immoral may reply.

SatNav, you say more to do with socio-economic reasons than race. Does this affect poorer white folk
Has anyone done a survey broken down by income levels as opposed to race?

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 55 seconds ago
"Absolutely abhorrent to use racism for political gain"

yet u defend Trump
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I’m sorry but I don’t speak to people with morals. Only the immoral may reply.
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But I'm amoral. Can I reply? Oops just did.
I'm just back from the Rez.(that auto corrected to red)
$25.00 for 200 ciggies. had to buy from a shop the other day. $22.00 for 50.

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
The Pope's plane lmao:

https://twitter.com/I30mki/status/1368205972255109120

Fair play to him, this is the first decent thing he has done since trashing and trying to change Christianity. Also opened my eyes to how big a Christian population Iraq had and how far back it goes.
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The pope trashed Christianity?

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
SatNav, you say more to do with socio-economic reasons than race. Does this affect poorer white folk
Has anyone done a survey broken down by income levels as opposed to race?

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Not that I’m aware of but I’d imagine it’s out there somewhere but there isn’t an obsession with socioeconomics like there is race so there is less information out there.

All of the evidence shows is that certain groups are fairing worse than others. Indians doing better than Bangladeshi, African vs Caribbean and so on. It therefore cannot be structural racism or injustice, it simply can’t.

Here’s some articles I’ve managed to find

https://www.jrf.org.uk/blog/covid-19-greater-health-risk-people-low-incomes-we-can-give-life-line

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2020.00047/full

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n376

Exposure to infection is unequal. People in precarious, low paid, manual jobs in the caring, retail, and service sectors have been more exposed to covid-19 as their face-to-face jobs cannot be done from home.3 Overcrowded, poor quality housing in densely populated areas have often added to their increased risk.4 Poorer communities have also been more vulnerable to severe disease once infected because of higher levels of pre-existing illness. Increased rates of infection have led to greater loss of income linked to disruptions to work and job loss, but the immediate financial pressure of covid-19 has gone far beyond this.



Daras K, Alexiou A, Rose TC, Buchan I, Taylor-Robinson D, Barr B. How does vulnerability to covid-19 vary between communities in England? Developing a small area vulnerability index (SAVI). Social Science Research Network 2020. [Preprint.] doi:10.2139/ssrn.3650050



Yet all Labour come out with is structural bloody racism, it’s furlong hatred and trying to increase division between people when there is already enough anyway. Fighting for the poor isn’t enough for these people, they have to create a false narrative of structural racism to ‘fight against’ too. It’s embarrassingly poor and incredibly transparent.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
The Pope's plane lmao:

https://twitter.com/I30mki/status/1368205972255109120

Fair play to him, this is the first decent thing he has done since trashing and trying to change Christianity. Also opened my eyes to how big a Christian population Iraq had and how far back it goes.
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The pope trashed Christianity?
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They see me rollin', they hatin'
Patrollin' and tryna catch me ridin' dirty
Tryna catch me ridin' dirty, tryna catch me ridin' dirty
Tryna catch me ridin' dirty, tryna catch me ridin' dirty

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evzf9F4XMAAvjc6?format=jpg&name=900x900

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evzf9F4XMAAvjc6?format=jpg&name=900x900


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Always Hec.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evzf9F4XMAAvjc6?format=jpg&name=900x900


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Hahahaah that’s brilliant

I’m so buying one. Can’t wait for my first SJW Labour gimp to congratulate me on it only for me to correct them.

‘Nah mate I’m a cnt and proud now fk off and wet your bed’ 😂😂

Great t shirt, very funny