and look to mitigate any benefits Scotland has from independence,
_______________________________
This is the bit that I don't understand and which causes me to use the term punitive.
Surely what you'd want to see is for England to protect its own interests (which is understandable), rather than try to block any benefits of independence?
Our benefits may have no impact on rUK and actually, in areas such as green energy, may be mutually advantageous, but apparently you don't want to see iScotland getting any benefits whatsoever. It's a very narrow outlook on the situation and it surprises me.
Unless i'm misinterpreting your words of course, which is entirely possible..
Wwspd
Hadrians wall?
You expecting indy scotland to immediately invade south?
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Wwspd
Hadrians wall?
You expecting indy scotland to immediately invade south?
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They may take our lives....
BREAKING: SAGE members who did not agree with lockdown were threatened with being fired
Via
@Telegraph
/
@FraserNelson
Wow
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posted 1 minute ago
BREAKING: SAGE members who did not agree with lockdown were threatened with being fired
Via
@Telegraph
/
@FraserNelson
Wow
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/13/really-need-inquiry-sage-forced-britain-lockdown/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AxJjrCRt52JN
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
and look to mitigate any benefits Scotland has from independence,
_______________________________
This is the bit that I don't understand and which causes me to use the term punitive.
Surely what you'd want to see is for England to protect its own interests (which is understandable), rather than try to block any benefits of independence?
Our benefits may have no impact on rUK and actually, in areas such as green energy, may be mutually advantageous, but apparently you don't want to see iScotland getting any benefits whatsoever. It's a very narrow outlook on the situation and it surprises me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The EU consistently sought to reduce the advantages the UK has through its divergence. We have seen this with how it tried to reduce access to its markets if it attempted some Singapore on Thames vision, while also how it has been intransigent on its four freedoms. This is fair imo, the EU has interests to protect and a thriving Uk on their doorstep would be a disaster.
There is also a distasteful but necessary issue of needing to discourage others to leave. Brexit was a shock and the EU feared it could trigger a great unravelling. To protect its union, it has to make the terms of departure difficult as an act of preservation.
Same will be true with rUK.
All in favour of you using your green energy revolution to the benefit of your country. I am also hopeful you can use Edinburgh as a financial hub with the EU, but the UK will not give you a mates rates deal.
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You will recall (the famous Barnier slide) the EU offered the UK as close or distant relationship as it wanted.
Before the UK even opened negotiations Theresa May affirmed the UK would be leaving the SM and CU.
The UK chose (as it was perfectly entitled to do) to diverge from baseline EU standards to give itself more scope to negotiate trade agreements elsewhere.
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
BREAKING: SAGE members who did not agree with lockdown were threatened with being fired
Via
@Telegraph
/
@FraserNelson
Wow
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/13/really-need-inquiry-sage-forced-britain-lockdown/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AxJjrCRt52JN
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Jesus
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
and look to mitigate any benefits Scotland has from independence,
_______________________________
This is the bit that I don't understand and which causes me to use the term punitive.
Surely what you'd want to see is for England to protect its own interests (which is understandable), rather than try to block any benefits of independence?
Our benefits may have no impact on rUK and actually, in areas such as green energy, may be mutually advantageous, but apparently you don't want to see iScotland getting any benefits whatsoever. It's a very narrow outlook on the situation and it surprises me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The EU consistently sought to reduce the advantages the UK has through its divergence. We have seen this with how it tried to reduce access to its markets if it attempted some Singapore on Thames vision, while also how it has been intransigent on its four freedoms. This is fair imo, the EU has interests to protect and a thriving Uk on their doorstep would be a disaster.
There is also a distasteful but necessary issue of needing to discourage others to leave. Brexit was a shock and the EU feared it could trigger a great unravelling. To protect its union, it has to make the terms of departure difficult as an act of preservation.
Same will be true with rUK.
All in favour of you using your green energy revolution to the benefit of your country. I am also hopeful you can use Edinburgh as a financial hub with the EU, but the UK will not give you a mates rates deal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You will recall (the famous Barnier slide) the EU offered the UK as close or distant relationship as it wanted.
Before the UK even opened negotiations Theresa May affirmed the UK would be leaving the SM and CU.
The UK chose (as it was perfectly entitled to do) to diverge from baseline EU standards to give itself more scope to negotiate trade agreements elsewhere.
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This is a highly charitable reading of events, the EU offered a Norway option if it accepted open borders, the maintenance of its four freedoms within the EU. It also offered multiple variations of deals with ensured the EU protected its interests and that the UK were unable to ‘cherry pick’ or have a distinct trading advantage without hugely costly trade offs.
UK will be same with Scotland, you define this as me being punitive or nasty, I am just stating facts.
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It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that if the UK was seeking to attain preferential market access to the EU, the EU would require the UK to adhere to the rules of its market.
If the EU granted the UK preferential access to its internal market, while allowing the it to diverge from its rules, it would have set a precedent for member states and other third countries to follow. Which would have completely undermined the integrity of its internal market.
The same would apply to any internal market granting access to a third country anywhere in the world.
I assume a trade deal between Scotland and rUK would be concluded as an interim deal until Scotland (presumably) was accepted into the EU. I would expect it would be in all parties interests to have a deal as close to that as the UK has with the EU to avoid further upheaval.
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 7 minutes ago
Union = colonialism
Are you on a wind up?
As for open goals, here is a brief taster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGY6yZEIjfk
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Thats not what was said though was it.
Most Scots are well aware of their part of the Empire, all of it and not just the rosy parts. Nationalistic English people like to gloss over the less savoury parts.
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Nonsense. I more than acknowledge mistakes, evils and misjudgements made by the Empire. I just have a much fuller view of it and don't define it by colonialism, nor do I associate the union exclusively with it.
Anyway, we know your erroneous claims about Right wing jingoism and they have been slapped down multiple times on here already.
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You deliberately misrepresented what Ivan said, for your own reasons, so no lectures about erroneousness please.
I have no idea who you used to be, if your hiding behind a new moniker or a newbie so I'll just judge you on your own nationlistic jingoism.
This hilarious belief that Scottish people/government need to suckle on the teat of benevolent Albion to survive, that theyre incapable of self determination displays your ignorance regarding the over representation of scots in the civil, business and cultural life on these islands and beyond.
FWIW im no ScotNat, but i know a fud when I read one.
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Europa League Here We Come!
Hopefully we'll find out in a couple of years.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 7 minutes ago
I assume a trade deal between Scotland and rUK would be concluded as an interim deal until Scotland (presumably) was accepted into the EU. I would expect it would be in all parties interests to have a deal as close to that as the UK has with the EU to avoid further upheaval.
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I would expect (much like the UK has done) existing arrangements would be grandfathered (rolled over) to maintain commerce etc.
There would also be the logistics of the Irish sea border to consider too.
My head hurts
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posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 7 minutes ago
Union = colonialism
Are you on a wind up?
As for open goals, here is a brief taster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGY6yZEIjfk
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Thats not what was said though was it.
Most Scots are well aware of their part of the Empire, all of it and not just the rosy parts. Nationalistic English people like to gloss over the less savoury parts.
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Nonsense. I more than acknowledge mistakes, evils and misjudgements made by the Empire. I just have a much fuller view of it and don't define it by colonialism, nor do I associate the union exclusively with it.
Anyway, we know your erroneous claims about Right wing jingoism and they have been slapped down multiple times on here already.
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You deliberately misrepresented what Ivan said, for your own reasons, so no lectures about erroneousness please.
I have no idea who you used to be, if your hiding behind a new moniker or a newbie so I'll just judge you on your own nationlistic jingoism.
This hilarious belief that Scottish people/government need to suckle on the teat of benevolent Albion to survive, that theyre incapable of self determination displays your ignorance regarding the over representation of scots in the civil, business and cultural life on these islands and beyond.
FWIW im no ScotNat, but i know a fud when I read one.
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Blah de blah de blah. At least use paragraphs do I can separate the points of your cosy liberal spiel.
I never said any if what you claim so learn yo read honeybug.
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Learn to proofread before getting condescending Nigel.
Boris Johnson was facing mounting pressure to halt the easing of lockdown today as it was revealed that the new Indian Covid variant has killed four people in Britain. Experts suggested that easements planned for Monday, including allowing people to meet inside pubs and hug close friends and family should be postponed as case of the the highly contagious strain doubled. Surge testing has already begun in 15 towns including Bolton and Formby and ministers last night approved plans aimed at slowing the spread of the imported strain of Covid-19. It came as ministers revealed teenagers could be offered jabs as authorities battle to bring the outbreaks under control. Public Health England revealed this morning that four deaths linked to the Indian variant B.1.617.2 were reported across Britain between May 5 and 12, out of 97 total Covid deaths. There are no signs it is more deadly or resistant to vaccines yet, it found.
Don’t get what the issue is, so what if 4 people have died of that variant they were not vaccinated so would of died from any variant
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posted 13 minutes ago
Looks like Portugal are going to ban all non essential travel from out with the EU into their country. Hope no one has booked a holiday for any time soon.
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I think it’s likely that they’ll allow entry to some non-EU countries, including the UK, with a recent negative PCR test.
EU citizens will be able to use the green certificate (handed out for free by health authorities in EU countries to people who have received a vaccine, had a negative test, or carry immunity having recently recovered from COVID) once that comes online.
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Porto literally just got the CL final
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Yep; fans travelling from the UK will need to present a negative PCR test less than 72 hours old to enter the country.
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Surprised at the 24 hr window thing tbh Rosso
Given how low our cases per 100k is
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The govt here has reverted to its course through the first two waves after what happened at Christmas. Restrictions are easing very slowly, and some, like mask-wearing indoors and social distancing, aren’t going anywhere for a good while I think.
They facked up at Christmas, it cost a lot of lives, and the public (which was very supportive of the strict restrictions earlier last year) doesn’t want the country to go backwards, let alone going through that again.
There’s also probably the fact that the Indian variant has taken a bit of a hold in the UK, the absolute need to ensure the holiday period isn’t disrupted, and the previous behaviour of English football fans in Portugal to consider
They can’t risk having to close restaurants, hotels, bars, etc. again this summer. It’d destroy the economy. So they’re going to tiptoe through. It has just been announced, for example, that people entering and leaving beaches, using boardwalks, using beach facilities (open bars, toilets, etc.) will have to wear masks this summer, with massive fines for non-compliance.
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I mean i get all that but the allowance for entry from the EU is any country under 150 per 100k
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With a negative PCR test, and still only for essential travel until the end of this month.
After that, the green certificate should be in play, which is where I expect the entry criteria will really diverge for EU and non-EU residents.
That said, there are already a sheetload of EU tourists here
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All change, Blarmy!
Foreign Ministry is now saying tourists from a small list of countries, including the UK, can visit as tourists from Monday with a recent negative PCR test.
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posted on 14/5/21
and look to mitigate any benefits Scotland has from independence,
_______________________________
This is the bit that I don't understand and which causes me to use the term punitive.
Surely what you'd want to see is for England to protect its own interests (which is understandable), rather than try to block any benefits of independence?
Our benefits may have no impact on rUK and actually, in areas such as green energy, may be mutually advantageous, but apparently you don't want to see iScotland getting any benefits whatsoever. It's a very narrow outlook on the situation and it surprises me.
posted on 14/5/21
Unless i'm misinterpreting your words of course, which is entirely possible..
posted on 14/5/21
Wwspd
Hadrians wall?
You expecting indy scotland to immediately invade south?
posted on 14/5/21
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posted on 14/5/21
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posted on 14/5/21
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 9 minutes ago
Wwspd
Hadrians wall?
You expecting indy scotland to immediately invade south?
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They may take our lives....
posted on 14/5/21
BREAKING: SAGE members who did not agree with lockdown were threatened with being fired
Via
@Telegraph
/
@FraserNelson
Wow
posted on 14/5/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
BREAKING: SAGE members who did not agree with lockdown were threatened with being fired
Via
@Telegraph
/
@FraserNelson
Wow
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/13/really-need-inquiry-sage-forced-britain-lockdown/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AxJjrCRt52JN
posted on 14/5/21
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
and look to mitigate any benefits Scotland has from independence,
_______________________________
This is the bit that I don't understand and which causes me to use the term punitive.
Surely what you'd want to see is for England to protect its own interests (which is understandable), rather than try to block any benefits of independence?
Our benefits may have no impact on rUK and actually, in areas such as green energy, may be mutually advantageous, but apparently you don't want to see iScotland getting any benefits whatsoever. It's a very narrow outlook on the situation and it surprises me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The EU consistently sought to reduce the advantages the UK has through its divergence. We have seen this with how it tried to reduce access to its markets if it attempted some Singapore on Thames vision, while also how it has been intransigent on its four freedoms. This is fair imo, the EU has interests to protect and a thriving Uk on their doorstep would be a disaster.
There is also a distasteful but necessary issue of needing to discourage others to leave. Brexit was a shock and the EU feared it could trigger a great unravelling. To protect its union, it has to make the terms of departure difficult as an act of preservation.
Same will be true with rUK.
All in favour of you using your green energy revolution to the benefit of your country. I am also hopeful you can use Edinburgh as a financial hub with the EU, but the UK will not give you a mates rates deal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You will recall (the famous Barnier slide) the EU offered the UK as close or distant relationship as it wanted.
Before the UK even opened negotiations Theresa May affirmed the UK would be leaving the SM and CU.
The UK chose (as it was perfectly entitled to do) to diverge from baseline EU standards to give itself more scope to negotiate trade agreements elsewhere.
posted on 14/5/21
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posted on 14/5/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
BREAKING: SAGE members who did not agree with lockdown were threatened with being fired
Via
@Telegraph
/
@FraserNelson
Wow
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/13/really-need-inquiry-sage-forced-britain-lockdown/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AxJjrCRt52JN
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Jesus
posted on 14/5/21
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
and look to mitigate any benefits Scotland has from independence,
_______________________________
This is the bit that I don't understand and which causes me to use the term punitive.
Surely what you'd want to see is for England to protect its own interests (which is understandable), rather than try to block any benefits of independence?
Our benefits may have no impact on rUK and actually, in areas such as green energy, may be mutually advantageous, but apparently you don't want to see iScotland getting any benefits whatsoever. It's a very narrow outlook on the situation and it surprises me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The EU consistently sought to reduce the advantages the UK has through its divergence. We have seen this with how it tried to reduce access to its markets if it attempted some Singapore on Thames vision, while also how it has been intransigent on its four freedoms. This is fair imo, the EU has interests to protect and a thriving Uk on their doorstep would be a disaster.
There is also a distasteful but necessary issue of needing to discourage others to leave. Brexit was a shock and the EU feared it could trigger a great unravelling. To protect its union, it has to make the terms of departure difficult as an act of preservation.
Same will be true with rUK.
All in favour of you using your green energy revolution to the benefit of your country. I am also hopeful you can use Edinburgh as a financial hub with the EU, but the UK will not give you a mates rates deal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You will recall (the famous Barnier slide) the EU offered the UK as close or distant relationship as it wanted.
Before the UK even opened negotiations Theresa May affirmed the UK would be leaving the SM and CU.
The UK chose (as it was perfectly entitled to do) to diverge from baseline EU standards to give itself more scope to negotiate trade agreements elsewhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a highly charitable reading of events, the EU offered a Norway option if it accepted open borders, the maintenance of its four freedoms within the EU. It also offered multiple variations of deals with ensured the EU protected its interests and that the UK were unable to ‘cherry pick’ or have a distinct trading advantage without hugely costly trade offs.
UK will be same with Scotland, you define this as me being punitive or nasty, I am just stating facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that if the UK was seeking to attain preferential market access to the EU, the EU would require the UK to adhere to the rules of its market.
If the EU granted the UK preferential access to its internal market, while allowing the it to diverge from its rules, it would have set a precedent for member states and other third countries to follow. Which would have completely undermined the integrity of its internal market.
The same would apply to any internal market granting access to a third country anywhere in the world.
posted on 14/5/21
I assume a trade deal between Scotland and rUK would be concluded as an interim deal until Scotland (presumably) was accepted into the EU. I would expect it would be in all parties interests to have a deal as close to that as the UK has with the EU to avoid further upheaval.
posted on 14/5/21
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 7 minutes ago
Union = colonialism
Are you on a wind up?
As for open goals, here is a brief taster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGY6yZEIjfk
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Thats not what was said though was it.
Most Scots are well aware of their part of the Empire, all of it and not just the rosy parts. Nationalistic English people like to gloss over the less savoury parts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nonsense. I more than acknowledge mistakes, evils and misjudgements made by the Empire. I just have a much fuller view of it and don't define it by colonialism, nor do I associate the union exclusively with it.
Anyway, we know your erroneous claims about Right wing jingoism and they have been slapped down multiple times on here already.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You deliberately misrepresented what Ivan said, for your own reasons, so no lectures about erroneousness please.
I have no idea who you used to be, if your hiding behind a new moniker or a newbie so I'll just judge you on your own nationlistic jingoism.
This hilarious belief that Scottish people/government need to suckle on the teat of benevolent Albion to survive, that theyre incapable of self determination displays your ignorance regarding the over representation of scots in the civil, business and cultural life on these islands and beyond.
FWIW im no ScotNat, but i know a fud when I read one.
posted on 14/5/21
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posted on 14/5/21
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posted on 14/5/21
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posted on 14/5/21
Europa League Here We Come!
posted on 14/5/21
Hopefully we'll find out in a couple of years.
posted on 14/5/21
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 7 minutes ago
I assume a trade deal between Scotland and rUK would be concluded as an interim deal until Scotland (presumably) was accepted into the EU. I would expect it would be in all parties interests to have a deal as close to that as the UK has with the EU to avoid further upheaval.
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I would expect (much like the UK has done) existing arrangements would be grandfathered (rolled over) to maintain commerce etc.
There would also be the logistics of the Irish sea border to consider too.
My head hurts
posted on 14/5/21
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posted on 14/5/21
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Europa League Here We Come! (U22521)
posted 7 minutes ago
Union = colonialism
Are you on a wind up?
As for open goals, here is a brief taster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGY6yZEIjfk
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Thats not what was said though was it.
Most Scots are well aware of their part of the Empire, all of it and not just the rosy parts. Nationalistic English people like to gloss over the less savoury parts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nonsense. I more than acknowledge mistakes, evils and misjudgements made by the Empire. I just have a much fuller view of it and don't define it by colonialism, nor do I associate the union exclusively with it.
Anyway, we know your erroneous claims about Right wing jingoism and they have been slapped down multiple times on here already.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You deliberately misrepresented what Ivan said, for your own reasons, so no lectures about erroneousness please.
I have no idea who you used to be, if your hiding behind a new moniker or a newbie so I'll just judge you on your own nationlistic jingoism.
This hilarious belief that Scottish people/government need to suckle on the teat of benevolent Albion to survive, that theyre incapable of self determination displays your ignorance regarding the over representation of scots in the civil, business and cultural life on these islands and beyond.
FWIW im no ScotNat, but i know a fud when I read one.
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Blah de blah de blah. At least use paragraphs do I can separate the points of your cosy liberal spiel.
I never said any if what you claim so learn yo read honeybug.
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Learn to proofread before getting condescending Nigel.
posted on 14/5/21
Boris Johnson was facing mounting pressure to halt the easing of lockdown today as it was revealed that the new Indian Covid variant has killed four people in Britain. Experts suggested that easements planned for Monday, including allowing people to meet inside pubs and hug close friends and family should be postponed as case of the the highly contagious strain doubled. Surge testing has already begun in 15 towns including Bolton and Formby and ministers last night approved plans aimed at slowing the spread of the imported strain of Covid-19. It came as ministers revealed teenagers could be offered jabs as authorities battle to bring the outbreaks under control. Public Health England revealed this morning that four deaths linked to the Indian variant B.1.617.2 were reported across Britain between May 5 and 12, out of 97 total Covid deaths. There are no signs it is more deadly or resistant to vaccines yet, it found.
posted on 14/5/21
Don’t get what the issue is, so what if 4 people have died of that variant they were not vaccinated so would of died from any variant
posted on 14/5/21
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posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
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posted 18 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 13 minutes ago
Looks like Portugal are going to ban all non essential travel from out with the EU into their country. Hope no one has booked a holiday for any time soon.
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I think it’s likely that they’ll allow entry to some non-EU countries, including the UK, with a recent negative PCR test.
EU citizens will be able to use the green certificate (handed out for free by health authorities in EU countries to people who have received a vaccine, had a negative test, or carry immunity having recently recovered from COVID) once that comes online.
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Porto literally just got the CL final
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Yep; fans travelling from the UK will need to present a negative PCR test less than 72 hours old to enter the country.
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Surprised at the 24 hr window thing tbh Rosso
Given how low our cases per 100k is
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The govt here has reverted to its course through the first two waves after what happened at Christmas. Restrictions are easing very slowly, and some, like mask-wearing indoors and social distancing, aren’t going anywhere for a good while I think.
They facked up at Christmas, it cost a lot of lives, and the public (which was very supportive of the strict restrictions earlier last year) doesn’t want the country to go backwards, let alone going through that again.
There’s also probably the fact that the Indian variant has taken a bit of a hold in the UK, the absolute need to ensure the holiday period isn’t disrupted, and the previous behaviour of English football fans in Portugal to consider
They can’t risk having to close restaurants, hotels, bars, etc. again this summer. It’d destroy the economy. So they’re going to tiptoe through. It has just been announced, for example, that people entering and leaving beaches, using boardwalks, using beach facilities (open bars, toilets, etc.) will have to wear masks this summer, with massive fines for non-compliance.
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I mean i get all that but the allowance for entry from the EU is any country under 150 per 100k
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With a negative PCR test, and still only for essential travel until the end of this month.
After that, the green certificate should be in play, which is where I expect the entry criteria will really diverge for EU and non-EU residents.
That said, there are already a sheetload of EU tourists here
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All change, Blarmy!
Foreign Ministry is now saying tourists from a small list of countries, including the UK, can visit as tourists from Monday with a recent negative PCR test.
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