comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
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He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
Despite his lack of pace, not many attackers have exposed him in that regard.
What he lacks in pace he makes up and more with his mental attributes.
Not saying Carrick is a beast but he is still far more physically imposing than Blind as is Matic who easily holds off opponents while still very at ease on the ball.
Blind isn't some wimp either but I think he lack of physical presence is an issue, especially under a manager like Jose.
I don't think strength and mobility is an issue. He's coped fine at cb despite not being big.
I'd understand the mobility argument if I hadn't seen Matic and Fellaini line up in our midfield.
But historically Jose seems to operate a player in the DM role who has either strength or mobility (or both). Blind just doesn't seem to be a typical Jose DM, I'm also sceptical of just how good he is there too.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
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He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
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Blind is easily more mobile tgan carrick, these days. Carrick might as well be a facking statue. However readers like bling and carrick don't need to be overly mobile, the yards are made by reading play.
Jose may prefer big lumps. Doesn't make him right though does it? Blind should be given a chance.
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
simple answer is no.
but for me he should be starting every week at CB.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
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actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
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actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
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He's been decent, but blind is much better.
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
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actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
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He's been decent, but blind is much better.
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but why have one or the other?
like i say, i'd have Blind at CB over everyone apart from Bailly... we need at least one CB who can play the ball out from the back
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 19 seconds ago
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posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
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actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
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He's been decent, but blind is much better.
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but why have one or the other?
like i say, i'd have Blind at CB over everyone apart from Bailly... we need at least one CB who can play the ball out from the back
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Not saying that. Indeed I've said I think that a 3 of blind matic and the dabmaster general should be tried. Just think a technical player with great vision and awareness like blind is being wasted.
While I think Blind did a good job in defence I think our defence is as strong as it's been for years right now without him there.
The period where Blind was playing at CB I think our defence was made to look better than it really was because of the performances of De Gea, whereas now De Gea is still there but isn't being relied upon anywhere near as much.
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
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He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
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Blind is easily more mobile tgan carrick, these days. Carrick might as well be a facking statue. However readers like bling and carrick don't need to be overly mobile, the yards are made by reading play.
Jose may prefer big lumps. Doesn't make him right though does it? Blind should be given a chance.
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Blind is probably more mobile than Carrick, but I was really referring to Carrick in his prime, who has actually a lot faster than he got credit for. He just never really had to run fast due to how he played then game.
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Yes because Blind was so integral in bridging the gap between defence and midfield when he did play at CB.
We don't need 2 ball playing CBS either, Bailly is fine at it as is Lindelof (if he can sort his form out) while both Jones and Mike have performed well this season. I know you like getting your panties in a twist but playing Blind in defence isn't going to improve us.
There are clearly issues that need sorting in the team but central defence is the least of our problems.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
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He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
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Blind is easily more mobile tgan carrick, these days. Carrick might as well be a facking statue. However readers like bling and carrick don't need to be overly mobile, the yards are made by reading play.
Jose may prefer big lumps. Doesn't make him right though does it? Blind should be given a chance.
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Blind is probably more mobile than Carrick, but I was really referring to Carrick in his prime, who has actually a lot faster than he got credit for. He just never really had to run fast due to how he played then game.
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He's a lot faster than carrick nowadays. But as you say. Similar in how he makes it look easy by reading the game, and no needing pack and mobility so much. His distribution in mf would be a major bonus if utilised there. He's a very clever passer.
Blind hasn't received any decent opportunity to show what he can do in that role (his best role) FFS Jose, give him 90 minutes in a cup match and see who we have. IMO I think well not regret this at all. But we're such a myopic bunch, I reckon Fergie would have given Blind a couple of shots, I think he'd be great with Matic and Pogba.
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posted on 10/11/17
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
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He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
posted on 10/11/17
Despite his lack of pace, not many attackers have exposed him in that regard.
What he lacks in pace he makes up and more with his mental attributes.
posted on 10/11/17
as an LB*
posted on 10/11/17
Not saying Carrick is a beast but he is still far more physically imposing than Blind as is Matic who easily holds off opponents while still very at ease on the ball.
Blind isn't some wimp either but I think he lack of physical presence is an issue, especially under a manager like Jose.
posted on 10/11/17
I don't think strength and mobility is an issue. He's coped fine at cb despite not being big.
I'd understand the mobility argument if I hadn't seen Matic and Fellaini line up in our midfield.
posted on 10/11/17
But historically Jose seems to operate a player in the DM role who has either strength or mobility (or both). Blind just doesn't seem to be a typical Jose DM, I'm also sceptical of just how good he is there too.
posted on 10/11/17
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
------------------------
He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blind is easily more mobile tgan carrick, these days. Carrick might as well be a facking statue. However readers like bling and carrick don't need to be overly mobile, the yards are made by reading play.
Jose may prefer big lumps. Doesn't make him right though does it? Blind should be given a chance.
posted on 10/11/17
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
posted on 10/11/17
simple answer is no.
but for me he should be starting every week at CB.
posted on 10/11/17
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
posted on 10/11/17
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
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actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
posted on 10/11/17
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's been decent, but blind is much better.
posted on 10/11/17
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's been decent, but blind is much better.
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but why have one or the other?
like i say, i'd have Blind at CB over everyone apart from Bailly... we need at least one CB who can play the ball out from the back
posted on 10/11/17
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Dunc (U11713)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 8 seconds ago
That's why we bought Matic though because Carrick is clearly declining with age
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Think we should have tried blind in there. Far more technical than matic. Should have been given a chance.
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actually Matic's ability on the ball has impressed me much more than i thought it would.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's been decent, but blind is much better.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
but why have one or the other?
like i say, i'd have Blind at CB over everyone apart from Bailly... we need at least one CB who can play the ball out from the back
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Not saying that. Indeed I've said I think that a 3 of blind matic and the dabmaster general should be tried. Just think a technical player with great vision and awareness like blind is being wasted.
posted on 10/11/17
While I think Blind did a good job in defence I think our defence is as strong as it's been for years right now without him there.
The period where Blind was playing at CB I think our defence was made to look better than it really was because of the performances of De Gea, whereas now De Gea is still there but isn't being relied upon anywhere near as much.
posted on 10/11/17
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
------------------------
He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blind is easily more mobile tgan carrick, these days. Carrick might as well be a facking statue. However readers like bling and carrick don't need to be overly mobile, the yards are made by reading play.
Jose may prefer big lumps. Doesn't make him right though does it? Blind should be given a chance.
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Blind is probably more mobile than Carrick, but I was really referring to Carrick in his prime, who has actually a lot faster than he got credit for. He just never really had to run fast due to how he played then game.
posted on 10/11/17
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posted on 10/11/17
Yes because Blind was so integral in bridging the gap between defence and midfield when he did play at CB.
We don't need 2 ball playing CBS either, Bailly is fine at it as is Lindelof (if he can sort his form out) while both Jones and Mike have performed well this season. I know you like getting your panties in a twist but playing Blind in defence isn't going to improve us.
There are clearly issues that need sorting in the team but central defence is the least of our problems.
posted on 10/11/17
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by -Baz atronic (U19119)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think a lack of both strength and mobility is the main reason we don’t see him played there. No doubt he’s technically very good with good composure and nice range of passing but I think a DM needs more than that which both Carrick and Matic do have.
------------------------
He has played CB without having any real issues with regards to his physicality. I would also say that mobility isn't really any issue when you have positioning and reading like Blind/Carrick. You are correct in saying that Carrick is more mobile than Blind, but how often did you see him actually run? Not very often. Indeed, must of his running was done in the rare occasions that he burst forwards.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blind is easily more mobile tgan carrick, these days. Carrick might as well be a facking statue. However readers like bling and carrick don't need to be overly mobile, the yards are made by reading play.
Jose may prefer big lumps. Doesn't make him right though does it? Blind should be given a chance.
-----------------------
Blind is probably more mobile than Carrick, but I was really referring to Carrick in his prime, who has actually a lot faster than he got credit for. He just never really had to run fast due to how he played then game.
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He's a lot faster than carrick nowadays. But as you say. Similar in how he makes it look easy by reading the game, and no needing pack and mobility so much. His distribution in mf would be a major bonus if utilised there. He's a very clever passer.
posted on 11/11/17
Blind hasn't received any decent opportunity to show what he can do in that role (his best role) FFS Jose, give him 90 minutes in a cup match and see who we have. IMO I think well not regret this at all. But we're such a myopic bunch, I reckon Fergie would have given Blind a couple of shots, I think he'd be great with Matic and Pogba.
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