comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
If all you care about is the workers conditions in this country then you aren’t a socialist.
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And your point is caller?
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You said you’re a socialist.
But you advocate removing the UK from the rest of Europe in order to create a better paid working class here - that seems opposed to socialism.
You are saying what it will cost us? What will it cost the majority in this country really? I ould argue in the longer term we will be better off. Short term pain for long term gain. Also an issue that people don't like change. A good number of people moaning about it up here also voted Yes to Scotland leaving the UK and see no irony, as if that also wouldn't have caused problems. I voted yes to leave also btw. You have Sturgeon moaing and wanting assurances. Those simple cannot be given and the same would happen if Scotland left the UK.
Doesn't help the EU is in full on punishment mode in order to send a message4 and a lesson to other countries cosidering leaving. Get a no deal, keep our money and go to World trade rules. As I said short term pain, long term gain. Business will come round as all they care about is profit. Doom merchants are always gonna moan. A lot of moaning coming from corps in order to get a second vote.
comment by Partick Bateman (U14112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
If all you care about is the workers conditions in this country then you aren’t a socialist.
____________________________
And your point is caller?
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You said you’re a socialist.
But you advocate removing the UK from the rest of Europe in order to create a better paid working class here - that seems opposed to socialism.
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I think you need to look up socialism.
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comment by Zachsda(It's McInnes by the end of the week) (U1850)
posted 20 seconds ago
Short term pain for long term gain
In this instance I would argue short term is a relative concept.
Short term is shaping up to be the rest of my life and a fairly large part of my childrens for what i can see will be no great gain for us at the bottom of the food chain
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You walk round with a Yes badge. Would the same economic upheaval not happen? Unbelievable.
Wow, they may need to get a visa for a holiday in the future. Erm. You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
The ‘taking back control narrative’ worked as it tapped into a sense of nostalgia.
Reminiscence of times long since passed, prior to mutual recognition, sectoral harmonisation, regulatory equivalence etc.
Treaties and agreements we now see all over the world. The slogan however completely disregarded the interdependency of modern trade policy.
Rightly or wrongly the UK have outsourced/farmed out our entire regulatory framework to the EU. Cutting off these structures over such a short period of time is beyond any government.
Like any constitutional change there will be winners and losers. The wealthy will be insulated, and the big losers will be SME’s (on both sides of the channel) dependent on multilateral European supply chains.
And of course the poor and less well-off, who will bear the brunt the most.
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
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Nobody is asking them to. Just deal with other EU countries and get back to exporting overseas.
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Partick Bateman (U14112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
If all you care about is the workers conditions in this country then you aren’t a socialist.
____________________________
And your point is caller?
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You said you’re a socialist.
But you advocate removing the UK from the rest of Europe in order to create a better paid working class here - that seems opposed to socialism.
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I think you need to look up socialism.
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No. I don’t think I do.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 28 seconds ago
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
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I’m sure it’s not but at least we will get to trade with whoever we want.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 17 seconds ago
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
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"list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe"
You should watch the last (Monday I recall) Brexit affairs committee taking industry evidence.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 52 seconds ago
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
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Good man Ginger, finally have another with sense on here and I can agree with you for maybe the first time.
The bullshyte coming out of the media (as the rich have the most to lose) on this is mind boggling and those above crying about economic pain, yet they voted Yes to leave the UK with Scotland is laughable frankly and beyond hypocritical.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
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Please point me to the case where I typed that? Please show me where I said we will dictate how any deal is done? Can you read my mind? Clearly not. A perfect example of someone seeing what they want to see and believing what they wish to.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 17 seconds ago
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
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"list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe"
You should watch the last (Monday I recall) Brexit affairs committee taking industry evidence.
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Evidence shows that nobody but nobody has left. Not one single company of note.
We’ve no idea how this will pan out so it’s equally disingenuous to suggest it will be all downhill.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
The ‘taking back control narrative’ worked as it tapped into a sense of nostalgia.
Reminiscence of times long since passed, prior to mutual recognition, sectoral harmonisation, regulatory equivalence etc.
Treaties and agreements we now see all over the world. The slogan however completely disregarded the interdependency of modern trade policy.
Rightly or wrongly the UK have outsourced/farmed out our entire regulatory framework to the EU. Cutting off these structures over such a short period of time is beyond any government.
Like any constitutional change there will be winners and losers. The wealthy will be insulated, and the big losers will be SME’s (on both sides of the channel) dependent on multilateral European supply chains.
And of course the poor and less well-off, who will bear the brunt the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's the final stages of the Old Empire attitude IMO, since the Empire is now all but disintegrated the new push is for sovereignty and let the UK be its own master, which is quite ironic in a way.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
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Nobody is asking them to. Just deal with other EU countries and get back to exporting overseas.
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The DUP want ROI to help pay for any potential hard border
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
The ‘taking back control narrative’ worked as it tapped into a sense of nostalgia.
Reminiscence of times long since passed, prior to mutual recognition, sectoral harmonisation, regulatory equivalence etc.
Treaties and agreements we now see all over the world. The slogan however completely disregarded the interdependency of modern trade policy.
Rightly or wrongly the UK have outsourced/farmed out our entire regulatory framework to the EU. Cutting off these structures over such a short period of time is beyond any government.
Like any constitutional change there will be winners and losers. The wealthy will be insulated, and the big losers will be SME’s (on both sides of the channel) dependent on multilateral European supply chains.
And of course the poor and less well-off, who will bear the brunt the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's the final stages of the Old Empire attitude IMO, since the Empire is now all but disintegrated the new push is for sovereignty and let the UK be its own master, which is quite ironic in a way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eh? There’s nobody alive who lived through the days of the Old Empire.
What’s ironic about wanting to trade with the rest of the world?
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
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Please point me to the case where I typed that? Please show me where I said we will dictate how any deal is done? Can you read my mind? Clearly not. A perfect example of someone seeing what they want to see and believing what they wish to.
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OK you dfidn't actually say it directly but that's what I took from your response. Must have picked it up wrong
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
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Nobody is asking them to. Just deal with other EU countries and get back to exporting overseas.
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The DUP want ROI to help pay for any potential hard border
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They don’t want a hard border. If Europe wants one then they should pay for it. Seems quite sensible to me.
Alternative is to trade elsewhere.
We know for a fact that our Trade Deal with European countries won’t be as good as before.
It can’t be. The EU can’t let it happen for its own survival.
The DUP want ROI to help pay for any potential hard border
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We're gonna build a wall, and it's gonna be a byoodiful wall
It's quite funny how many pro Brexit people talk of how the UK needs to take back control etc. when the same people would have been champions of the Empire and are proud of how Brittan stamped itself all over the world
It's the final stages of the Old Empire attitude IMO, since the Empire is now all but disintegrated the new push is for sovereignty and let the UK be its own master, which is quite ironic in a way.
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Utter p@sh, talk about framing an argument based on your own political and world bias.
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posted on 5/12/17
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
If all you care about is the workers conditions in this country then you aren’t a socialist.
____________________________
And your point is caller?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You said you’re a socialist.
But you advocate removing the UK from the rest of Europe in order to create a better paid working class here - that seems opposed to socialism.
posted on 5/12/17
You are saying what it will cost us? What will it cost the majority in this country really? I ould argue in the longer term we will be better off. Short term pain for long term gain. Also an issue that people don't like change. A good number of people moaning about it up here also voted Yes to Scotland leaving the UK and see no irony, as if that also wouldn't have caused problems. I voted yes to leave also btw. You have Sturgeon moaing and wanting assurances. Those simple cannot be given and the same would happen if Scotland left the UK.
Doesn't help the EU is in full on punishment mode in order to send a message4 and a lesson to other countries cosidering leaving. Get a no deal, keep our money and go to World trade rules. As I said short term pain, long term gain. Business will come round as all they care about is profit. Doom merchants are always gonna moan. A lot of moaning coming from corps in order to get a second vote.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Partick Bateman (U14112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
If all you care about is the workers conditions in this country then you aren’t a socialist.
____________________________
And your point is caller?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You said you’re a socialist.
But you advocate removing the UK from the rest of Europe in order to create a better paid working class here - that seems opposed to socialism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you need to look up socialism.
posted on 5/12/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Zachsda(It's McInnes by the end of the week) (U1850)
posted 20 seconds ago
Short term pain for long term gain
In this instance I would argue short term is a relative concept.
Short term is shaping up to be the rest of my life and a fairly large part of my childrens for what i can see will be no great gain for us at the bottom of the food chain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You walk round with a Yes badge. Would the same economic upheaval not happen? Unbelievable.
Wow, they may need to get a visa for a holiday in the future. Erm. You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
posted on 5/12/17
The ‘taking back control narrative’ worked as it tapped into a sense of nostalgia.
Reminiscence of times long since passed, prior to mutual recognition, sectoral harmonisation, regulatory equivalence etc.
Treaties and agreements we now see all over the world. The slogan however completely disregarded the interdependency of modern trade policy.
Rightly or wrongly the UK have outsourced/farmed out our entire regulatory framework to the EU. Cutting off these structures over such a short period of time is beyond any government.
Like any constitutional change there will be winners and losers. The wealthy will be insulated, and the big losers will be SME’s (on both sides of the channel) dependent on multilateral European supply chains.
And of course the poor and less well-off, who will bear the brunt the most.
posted on 5/12/17
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
posted on 5/12/17
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody is asking them to. Just deal with other EU countries and get back to exporting overseas.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Partick Bateman (U14112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
If all you care about is the workers conditions in this country then you aren’t a socialist.
____________________________
And your point is caller?
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You said you’re a socialist.
But you advocate removing the UK from the rest of Europe in order to create a better paid working class here - that seems opposed to socialism.
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I think you need to look up socialism.
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No. I don’t think I do.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 28 seconds ago
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
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I’m sure it’s not but at least we will get to trade with whoever we want.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 17 seconds ago
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
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"list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe"
You should watch the last (Monday I recall) Brexit affairs committee taking industry evidence.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 52 seconds ago
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good man Ginger, finally have another with sense on here and I can agree with you for maybe the first time.
The bullshyte coming out of the media (as the rich have the most to lose) on this is mind boggling and those above crying about economic pain, yet they voted Yes to leave the UK with Scotland is laughable frankly and beyond hypocritical.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please point me to the case where I typed that? Please show me where I said we will dictate how any deal is done? Can you read my mind? Clearly not. A perfect example of someone seeing what they want to see and believing what they wish to.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 17 seconds ago
I’m still waiting on this list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe.
Contingency plans I hear you say? What are they? Opening up an office in Brussels?
Voted leave and would vote leave again twice over if I had the chance. What club punsihes you and treats with such arrogant disrespect because you no longer want to be a member? Fwck them. Hard Brexit all the way as far as I’m concerned and if it’s the DUP who end up giving us it then good enough.
£50bn to secure their hard earned final salary pensions ffs? Grubby fwcking free loading power hungry maniacs. They’ve shown their true colours here and no wonder opinion polls tell us that were there another vote, the margin to leave would be even bigger.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"list of companies who have upped stocks and moved to Europe"
You should watch the last (Monday I recall) Brexit affairs committee taking industry evidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Evidence shows that nobody but nobody has left. Not one single company of note.
We’ve no idea how this will pan out so it’s equally disingenuous to suggest it will be all downhill.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
The ‘taking back control narrative’ worked as it tapped into a sense of nostalgia.
Reminiscence of times long since passed, prior to mutual recognition, sectoral harmonisation, regulatory equivalence etc.
Treaties and agreements we now see all over the world. The slogan however completely disregarded the interdependency of modern trade policy.
Rightly or wrongly the UK have outsourced/farmed out our entire regulatory framework to the EU. Cutting off these structures over such a short period of time is beyond any government.
Like any constitutional change there will be winners and losers. The wealthy will be insulated, and the big losers will be SME’s (on both sides of the channel) dependent on multilateral European supply chains.
And of course the poor and less well-off, who will bear the brunt the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's the final stages of the Old Empire attitude IMO, since the Empire is now all but disintegrated the new push is for sovereignty and let the UK be its own master, which is quite ironic in a way.
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody is asking them to. Just deal with other EU countries and get back to exporting overseas.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The DUP want ROI to help pay for any potential hard border
posted on 5/12/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
The ‘taking back control narrative’ worked as it tapped into a sense of nostalgia.
Reminiscence of times long since passed, prior to mutual recognition, sectoral harmonisation, regulatory equivalence etc.
Treaties and agreements we now see all over the world. The slogan however completely disregarded the interdependency of modern trade policy.
Rightly or wrongly the UK have outsourced/farmed out our entire regulatory framework to the EU. Cutting off these structures over such a short period of time is beyond any government.
Like any constitutional change there will be winners and losers. The wealthy will be insulated, and the big losers will be SME’s (on both sides of the channel) dependent on multilateral European supply chains.
And of course the poor and less well-off, who will bear the brunt the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's the final stages of the Old Empire attitude IMO, since the Empire is now all but disintegrated the new push is for sovereignty and let the UK be its own master, which is quite ironic in a way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eh? There’s nobody alive who lived through the days of the Old Empire.
What’s ironic about wanting to trade with the rest of the world?
posted on 5/12/17
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
You actually think that businesses wont trade here? Get a grip.
They will of course however you seem to think the UK will get to dictate how every deal is done, it's really not that simple though.
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Please point me to the case where I typed that? Please show me where I said we will dictate how any deal is done? Can you read my mind? Clearly not. A perfect example of someone seeing what they want to see and believing what they wish to.
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OK you dfidn't actually say it directly but that's what I took from your response. Must have picked it up wrong
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comment by Hector (U3606)
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I'm having a right wee chuckle at the Irish, twice before they voted in EU referendums, Nice and Lisbon, both times originally rejecting the terms and were told by the EU, 'we've gave you loadsamoney so fkn sort yer house out' and forced them to have 2nd referendums...
Now the EU are Irelands bestest friend ever.
Bunchacuntz the lotta them.
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This is a valid point to be fair, but the EU has done an awful lot for Ireland especially in terms of infastructure and local community projects.
We need the EU it's that simple, we're better off in it and have reaped more benefits from being in it than not being in it.
Ireland shouldn't have to pay for the UK's desire to leave.
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Nobody is asking them to. Just deal with other EU countries and get back to exporting overseas.
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The DUP want ROI to help pay for any potential hard border
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They don’t want a hard border. If Europe wants one then they should pay for it. Seems quite sensible to me.
Alternative is to trade elsewhere.
posted on 5/12/17
We know for a fact that our Trade Deal with European countries won’t be as good as before.
It can’t be. The EU can’t let it happen for its own survival.
posted on 5/12/17
The DUP want ROI to help pay for any potential hard border
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We're gonna build a wall, and it's gonna be a byoodiful wall
posted on 5/12/17
It's quite funny how many pro Brexit people talk of how the UK needs to take back control etc. when the same people would have been champions of the Empire and are proud of how Brittan stamped itself all over the world
posted on 5/12/17
It's the final stages of the Old Empire attitude IMO, since the Empire is now all but disintegrated the new push is for sovereignty and let the UK be its own master, which is quite ironic in a way.
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Utter p@sh, talk about framing an argument based on your own political and world bias.
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