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posted on 26/3/18

yep totally agree, a white man saying that it be a total outrage.

however when black guys are together, the fact is that's how the speak to each other.. there's nothing racist in it what so ever.. right or wrongly, this is fact

you buy a car with good fuel accompany - you bought a white mans car... you buy a car with huge alloys, tinted windows.. you got a black mans car.

black guys call each other n** gger, its a term of affection, they are not being racist towards each other are they? - a white guy can't say the word however, again, its such a grey area (or black area) haha.

but one thing I'm totally sure of, AJ's comments are a million percent not racist

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 8 minutes ago
yep totally agree, a white man saying that it be a total outrage.

however when black guys are together, the fact is that's how the speak to each other.. there's nothing racist in it what so ever.. right or wrongly, this is fact

you buy a car with good fuel accompany - you bought a white mans car... you buy a car with huge alloys, tinted windows.. you got a black mans car.

black guys call each other n** gger, its a term of affection, they are not being racist towards each other are they? - a white guy can't say the word however, again, its such a grey area (or black area) haha.

but one thing I'm totally sure of, AJ's comments are a million percent not racist
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Disagree with a lot of this...and a lot of what you say is just bull$hit racial branding!

In terms of "how they speak" when in a group... doesnt excuse it ... Anyone could therefore say that when in a group of similar race groups this is how I speak and therfore in your logic get away with anything? No that aint how it works..

The car analogy is just lies and nonesense... basically what your saying is that only black people stereo typically mod their cars or more likely to go for performance cars ?! Nope disagree with that, car modding is not really attached to any race if you go to race meets, mod meets you would see that there massive diversity.

The N word when used by black people among themselves has many different connotations dependent on its context. Its used as a slur just as much as it used as an endearment.

AJ grouped together a specific race of people on their own and suggested they are superior.... that is a racial statement .. that is just a fact. The meaning behind it may not be only he knows but the technical aspect of the statement is racial, no ifs no buts

posted on 26/3/18

Delboy, you've taken that totally the wrong way mate, firstly I don't tell lies.

we've had the same convo before, you and I, and you know me better than that.

what I'm saying is, AJ's comments are not racist because thats the lingo he uses. silly comment yet, but not racist..

have you never joked about the irish and building drives? - the poles, building houses? - are you a racist or are just bantering.. AJ saying 'superior black race (to a black man by the way), is pure banter.

the world really needs to understand the difference - otherwise we will never ever get past racism, ever.

posted on 26/3/18

since I know you're from scotland, are you tight with you;re money? - you like a drink of whisky... I 100% guarantee you if we were in the pub together, and you ordered a whiskey, and I said 'oh look, typical, you wouldn't even think of further of it.

again, there is a world of difference, and until the world knows the difference we just don;t get past it.

again Del, when we last spoke I told you my background, I'm a white guy who boxes at 90% black boxing club... you think I don;t know the difference in banter?

posted on 26/3/18

Del, again, sorry but there more I have to say on this

taking banter out of it, there are facts that we (everybody) should be able to say without being called a racist, again, myabe as most of my circle are black, and I'm white I maybe view this differently. but..

in sprinting (running) black guys are better? - why? - genetics maybe? - swimming, why are white guys better? - basketball. the black race are superior, tell me they are not Del.

on a different note, if my mates are anything to go by Black guys are half an hour late for everything with no valid reason - they call me a pikey haha, why? because I'm white, no other reason..

once more... until the world understands there are differences in white, black, irish, scots, poles, asians and talk about them freely - we will never ever get past racism... ever, totally angers me when people can;t see this

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 14 minutes ago
Delboy, you've taken that totally the wrong way mate, firstly I don't tell lies.

we've had the same convo before, you and I, and you know me better than that.

what I'm saying is, AJ's comments are not racist because thats the lingo he uses. silly comment yet, but not racist..

have you never joked about the irish and building drives? - the poles, building houses? - are you a racist or are just bantering.. AJ saying 'superior black race (to a black man by the way), is pure banter.

the world really needs to understand the difference - otherwise we will never ever get past racism, ever.
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AJ no doubt defo didnt mean it as a racial term, he has made a few comments similar to this and again I agree with you in his upbringing is completely innocent and normal but it is racial banding in the greater picture.

I also have used terms and sayings that in the context I use it in is not racial but as a public statement going out to the masses I would never say. Just to say that I havent said things of similar ilk doesnt mean its not racist. But this is not the world that AJ lives in, he is a public figure and cannot say things like this .... hence why he hasnt spoken about it at all.

I never knew us Scots are stereo typically tight?! news to me I thought we always had a reputation of being the opposite and very hospitable !!

AJ's ignorance and indeed anyone in his shows or similar upbringing is not an excuse. AJ is not stupid far far from it he thinks long an hard about what he says especially in the public domain you have seen it plenty of times and he has admitted this himself, he rarely says anything for the sake of saying it especially in public.

Let me compare it to the gun laws in the US. Millions have been brought up in a scenario where they think its normal to bear arms and in fact have the right to do so, and are ignorant to the threats its poses despite the masses now disagreeing with them. Ignorance is not an excuse, and people need to adapt and change as the world and society around them do so.

posted on 26/3/18

sorry del, again, have you ever used the phrase... "play the white man?"

when you have, were you being racist, or were you wimply saying something that is part of what we say.. would a black guy say that? - no, he wouldn't.. why? its not part of his lingo,

would a white call another white guy 'you honk*8y'.. no, this is just not what we say, but black guys say 'yo N***" to another black guy.... in fact, I get called that a lot to be fair, mainly because when they speak to me they're not talking to a colour, they are talking to a brother

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
Del, again, sorry but there more I have to say on this

taking banter out of it, there are facts that we (everybody) should be able to say without being called a racist, again, myabe as most of my circle are black, and I'm white I maybe view this differently. but..

in sprinting (running) black guys are better? - why? - genetics maybe? - swimming, why are white guys better? - basketball. the black race are superior, tell me they are not Del.

on a different note, if my mates are anything to go by Black guys are half an hour late for everything with no valid reason- they call me a pikey haha, why? because I'm white, no other reason..

once more... until the world understands there are differences in white, black, irish, scots, poles, asians and talk about them freely - we will never ever get past racism... ever, totally angers me when people can;t see this
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again you are tarring YOUR experiences as being the norm. There is more to race than just what you have experienced, and your pigeon holing your opinion only on what you have seen.

Put it this way take yourself out of your usual environment and put yourself say in LA.... would you speak to strangers in the hood the same way you speak to those you know? would you act the same and would accept strangers talking to you the way your black friends speak to you?

We are talking about the grand picture here, the way AJ's comments went out... they were not comments made to a close friend or within a certain circle they were said to someone he doesnt know from a different background and upbringing from himself.

posted on 26/3/18

totally agree he's a role model Del, but then why can;t he say stuff like this, we need somebody to be able to speak freely on this subject... this 'racial' idiocy needs to stop.... everybody is equally the same, and should be treated the same, and different in make up, and recognized that there are differences - its really time for everybody to talk freely about these matters.

if you had to pick a basketball team at work, to play against another department say... I don't know about you but I'd look instantly to the black guys, that's not racist, however it is racial branding.. and totally not racist racial branding either... mind you, I'd tell them kick off was earlier than it was to get them there on time haha

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 57 minutes ago
yep totally agree, a white man saying that it be a total outrage.

however when black guys are together, the fact is that's how the speak to each other.. there's nothing racist in it what so ever.. right or wrongly, this is fact

you buy a car with good fuel accompany - you bought a white mans car... you buy a car with huge alloys, tinted windows.. you got a black mans car.

black guys call each other n** gger, its a term of affection, they are not being racist towards each other are they? - a white guy can't say the word however, again, its such a grey area (or black area) haha.

but one thing I'm totally sure of, AJ's comments are a million percent not racist
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I agree to a point but it definitely was a racist comment because a) they are not friends & b) he said Eddie was a disgrace to the superior black race. He didn’t call him the n word etc he called him a disgrace to the race he thinks is superior. It’s racist to eddie & racist to non black people too. There literally is no debate that is a fact similar to Ali he was a racist to Frazier there’s no debate or argument he was

posted on 26/3/18

Put it this way take yourself out of your usual environment and put yourself say in LA.... would you speak to strangers in the hood the same way you speak to those you know? would you act the same and would accept strangers talking to you the way your black friends speak to you?


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Del, that's my point, we SHOULD be able to, and the world needs to see this.

posted on 26/3/18

Oscar, there is no such thing as a racist comment mate, racism is the feeling and meaning behind the comment, I truly believe that.



comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 2 minutes ago
totally agree he's a role model Del, but then why can;t he say stuff like this, we need somebody to be able to speak freely on this subject... this 'racial' idiocy needs to stop.... everybody is equally the same, and should be treated the same, and different in make up, and recognized that there are differences - its really time for everybody to talk freely about these matters.

if you had to pick a basketball team at work, to play against another department say... I don't know about you but I'd look instantly to the black guys, that's not racist, however it is racial branding.. and totally not racist racial branding either... mind you, I'd tell them kick off was earlier than it was to get them there on time haha
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Na id look at the ones that had played bascketball.... and that would be the wee scot ie me.... I played a lot of ball in my time when younger.... played for the school, played for Glasgow Schools, played for Glasgow Sports Division team (remember that shop!!), Scotland under 18's and my university team.

As I said what he said was a publlic comment and to someone he doesnt know therfore any aspect of what he says in his close circuit of peers means nothing.

I would in joke speak to Celtic fans i know completely differently to those I dont and if speaking in a general term.

You are basing your argument completely on your own experiences that you have had within your own social groups and not the bigger picture. As I said you would not speak to those from others countries or upbringings the way you do your friends would you?

Ie would you call a black person from LA that you have never met the "n" word or other terms you would use for the black people that you know?

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
Put it this way take yourself out of your usual environment and put yourself say in LA.... would you speak to strangers in the hood the same way you speak to those you know? would you act the same and would accept strangers talking to you the way your black friends speak to you?


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Del, that's my point, we SHOULD be able to, and the world needs to see this.


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No we should respect others and their backgrounds and not assume that the way we have seen things in this world is not the be all and end all.

If you know what you say might offend others that you dont know then maybe thats because what your saying is offensive. I say its groups that refuse to acknowledge this are the ones not moving with the times and are segregating themselves and keeping them in a group cutting off the rest.

posted on 26/3/18

I get called all sorts even by black guys who I'm sparring that I don't know that well, Slim Shady, pikey etc etc... - why is that any different from when you call a fat guy 'fatso' for example? - because you're referring to size rather than colour? - ooohh the taboo... thats the point, the race thing is totally blown out of proportion.

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 5 minutes ago
Oscar, there is no such thing as a racist comment mate, racism is the feeling and meaning behind the comment, I truly believe that.




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this is ignorance Spanish mate ... just because YOU dont think something, doesnt mean the rest of the world is the same.

And yes you cannot attack someone for being fat, if was overweight and a stranger called me fatso then yes that is wrong !! I would never walk up to stranger and name call them regardless of what I think. We cannot simply label things just because of our perception. that is ignorance

posted on 26/3/18

listen Del, I gotta do some work mate , or I'll be down the job center, and I won't be able to afford my nandos with my mates haha, mind you, at least I'll be on time for stuff hahahaha

ha, a scots basketball player, hats off to you mate

speak soon

comment by Joejoe (U7141)

posted on 26/3/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
listen Del, I gotta do some work mate, or I'll be down the job center, and I won't be able to afford my nandos with my mates haha, mind you, at least I'll be on time for stuff hahahaha

ha, a scots basketball player, hats off to you mate

speak soon


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No worries man, as i said I know your sentiments behind your comments and such and in no way I am saying there is any racial agenda with yourself,clearly there is not however people need to be empathetic towards others.

posted on 26/3/18

I think that's the route of the 'problem', that everybody should be free to speak about this subject, openly, and in jest, currently it is such a taboo subject that things are so heightened.

I bet you have no problem in telling me, or anybody you don't know that, as a scotsman you want the English football to lose every game they play

posted on 28/3/18

just for laughs there's a story at the moment where a "all white girls lacrosse team" has been seen singing some song which contains the word ni&&er and people are outraged! I mean seriously copying the lyrics of a song with that word is deemed unacceptable?

posted on 28/3/18

Kaz, you see, that word, isn't acceptable IMO for a white man to use, regardless of any banter that happens, however when in my car rapping along to Dre, or Jay-Z, its very difficult not to say the word... this is acceptable.. I give a couple of my mates a lift home after training (both black guys) - they would be more offended if I left the word out whilst rapping along... that is acceptable.

I honestly believe that this race thing has gone totally ridiculous, instead concentrating on 1, banter remarks, 2, AJ bantering 'superior black race', white chicks singing alone to lyrics... this that and the other, we should speak about stuff openly, that's they way to beat racism...

I said above that I really don't think that there are any racist comments, only meaning behind them. I would totally hate it if my mates stopped calling my 'slim shady', or whiteboy, or pikey, in case I got offended. the fact is I'm white, how am I not a whiteboy haha.

I showed this thead to my mate the other day, (a black guy), we brought up the fact the football association has said that they must have a percentage of black managers... isn;t that more racist to even mention it?? - my mates comments were fantastic, I'm still laughing now, I can't really say what he said on here, but you get the gist haha...

posted on 31/3/18

unlike the vast majority of black people in europe and the americas AJ who have a good dollop of white blood, AJ is pure west african

he is a from the Yoruba tribe, which are used in population genetics as the proxy for SSA west african descent

posted on 1/4/18

A.J is a fake, his persona is fake.
Is is nasty racist guy.
Casual fans are not too smart and their simple minds can't deal with issues like this.

All they want is Eddie to tell them who to cheer for.

Could you imagine a white fighter would have said the superior white race?

posted on 3/4/18

D4.. I'd stop smoking the green if I were you... enjoy the sport and enjoy the ups and the downs of the sportsman you like or dislike... its really not worth boiling your blood.. blud.

posted on 7/4/18

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 4 days, 7 hours ago
D4.. I'd stop smoking the green if I were you... enjoy the sport and enjoy the ups and the downs of the sportsman you like or dislike... its really not worth boiling your blood.. blud.
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I'm not the one getting taken for a fool by Joshua and Eddie.

Amazing the excuses Hearn came out with.
First they tried, that is not his account, then when that did not work they tried his account was hacked.

But yeah, let's all support a racist

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