Why can't coaches sit in the stands? They do it all the time - especially the manager.

I think it's about giving tactical instructions from the stand.

I'm not sure whether it breaks the rules or not:
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only one person at a time is authorised to convey tactical instructions from the technical area

the coach and other officials must remain within its confines except in special circumstances, e.g. a physiotherapist or doctor entering the field of play, with the referee's permission, to assess an injured player

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/the-technical-area

-15 coming our way then

I'd agree with Sol but the letter of the law says nominated coaches are restricted to the technical area. There's an argument that Leeds United had 30,000 plus technical coaches in the stands......

If it was against the rules then you'd have to question written instructions being passed into the field of play by substitutes too.

comment by Sol (I'm full of hate, apparently) (U2745)
posted 23 minutes ago
I think it's about giving tactical instructions from the stand.

I'm not sure whether it breaks the rules or not:
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only one person at a time is authorised to convey tactical instructions from the technical area

the coach and other officials must remain within its confines except in special circumstances, e.g. a physiotherapist or doctor entering the field of play, with the referee's permission, to assess an injured player

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/the-technical-area
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this states that

"the occupants of the technical area are identified before the beginning of the match in accordance with the competition rules
only one person at a time is authorised to convey tactical instructions from the technical area"

doesnt mention if other unidentified staff if thats what they were can sit in other parts of the ground but probably is against the rules and we will get hammered for it

I don't think this would be new for Bielsa. Not only that, the stands are further away from the pitch. Unless specifically excluded I don't think the EFL can do anything other than create a new rule if deemed to be against the spirit etc..

comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 8 minutes ago
I don't think this would be new for Bielsa. Not only that, the stands are further away from the pitch. Unless specifically excluded I don't think the EFL can do anything other than create a new rule if deemed to be against the spirit etc..
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It’s a commonly understood rule at all levels of the game worldwide. While as cited above, it’s not categorically prohibited in FIFAs laws of the game, I suspect its in the FL rules and, expevially since it’s Leeds United, I predict there will be blood.

I quickly scanned the EFL rules section but couldn’t find anything that may apply, maybe someone else can spend more time trying:

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/

comment by Sol (I'm full of hate, apparently) (U2745)
posted 55 minutes ago
I think it's about giving tactical instructions from the stand.

I'm not sure whether it breaks the rules or not:
_______________

only one person at a time is authorised to convey tactical instructions from the technical area

the coach and other officials must remain within its confines except in special circumstances, e.g. a physiotherapist or doctor entering the field of play, with the referee's permission, to assess an injured player

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/the-technical-area
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So you can have as many as you want giving it to one guy and he gives it to the bench?

As you say JLA, if it's not specifically excluded.....

KLS, need to look to EFL rules as to whether they limit the number on the bench.

comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sol (I'm full of hate, apparently) (U2745)
posted 55 minutes ago
I think it's about giving tactical instructions from the stand.

I'm not sure whether it breaks the rules or not:
_______________

only one person at a time is authorised to convey tactical instructions from the technical area

the coach and other officials must remain within its confines except in special circumstances, e.g. a physiotherapist or doctor entering the field of play, with the referee's permission, to assess an injured player

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/the-technical-area
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So you can have as many as you want giving it to one guy and he gives it to the bench?
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You might want to rephrase that.....

Visualize the World Cup benches and how many non-players they had on them.

If there’s a limit, it’s high and determined by each competition.

comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
I'd agree with Sol but the letter of the law says nominated coaches are restricted to the technical area. There's an argument that Leeds United had 30,000 plus technical coaches in the stands......

If it was against the rules then you'd have to question written instructions being passed into the field of play by substitutes too.
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Us lot are technical coaches it seems

bad loser those potters

If it was breaking the rules, it's incredibly amateur from the club and Bielsa.

However, has it been proven he was actually giving instructions? Or was he just shouting encouragement like everyone else in that stand?

comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 10 minutes ago
bad loser those potters
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Perhaps, but rules is rules!!

comment by Best Fans - Leeds are falling apart again (U2196)
posted 17 minutes ago
If it was breaking the rules, it's incredibly amateur from the club and Bielsa.

However, has it been proven he was actually giving instructions? Or was he just shouting encouragement like everyone else in that stand?
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It was instructions with Douglas & Alioski acknowledging from what I saw ..... but for the lawyers he just seemed to be another excited fan 👍🏽👍🏽

comment by Shaun M - We're gonna finish 8th (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
I'd agree with Sol but the letter of the law says nominated coaches are restricted to the technical area. There's an argument that Leeds United had 30,000 plus technical coaches in the stands......

If it was against the rules then you'd have to question written instructions being passed into the field of play by substitutes too.
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Us lot are technical coaches it seems

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I'm glad sarcasm is alive and kicking on here.....

One wonders how a Stoke fan was so aware of our coaching team that they managed to pick one of them out amongst a crowd of 30000.

More likely a Leeds fan barking out instructions of what he thinks the players should do.

comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - We're gonna finish 8th (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Stevie Dee (U10061)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
I'd agree with Sol but the letter of the law says nominated coaches are restricted to the technical area. There's an argument that Leeds United had 30,000 plus technical coaches in the stands......

If it was against the rules then you'd have to question written instructions being passed into the field of play by substitutes too.
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Us lot are technical coaches it seems

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I'm glad sarcasm is alive and kicking on here.....
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Kicking and screaming to be exact. I do try and lighten the mood although I was the one who posted the article

If they were simply fans, then I suspect that in no time the players would have realized they were clueless with their comments and conclusions.

That's what happens for the referees.

comment by JonnyLosAngeles (My dad was made in Leeds) (U9756)
posted 20 minutes ago
If they were simply fans, then I suspect that in no time the players would have realized they were clueless with their comments and conclusions.

That's what happens for the referees.
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Leeds fans clueless? Really? People have been filtered for saying less.....

If you employ 12 coaches, and only so many can be named on the bench, this so called rule suggests the other coaches are not allowed to watch the game live. There is no such rule.

Anyone can relay information to the bench via telephone from anywhere else or shout instructions free m round the ground. None can encroach from the side though unless they are in the technical area, and within the rules written

There is no rule

They are fishing

Here lieth the word of LST. Often proven wrong.

comment by Long Short Tall (U19233)

Here lieth the word of LST. Often proven wrong.

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Standby!

Did a quick search for MLS rules and found the following:

"TEAM BENCHES

Both the Home Team and Visiting Team will be allowed a maximum of 17 individuals on their respective club benches (seven named substitute players, nine staff members, one club physician).

* If the Visiting Team has no Official Team Physician present, a maximum of 16 total individuals (nine staff and seven players) will be allowed on the bench.

* The Home Team will be required to have its Team Physician attend each MLS match and that individual will be seated on the Home Team bench.

** All such individuals seated in the bench area must be listed on the Official Match Roster

** Additional players or support staff may not sit or stand in the bench area or be on a secondary bench placed in, near or immediately behind the Technical Area.

Suspended players and/or coaches may not be in the bench area, locker room or on field level."

https://www.mlssoccer.com/league/official-rules/competition-rules-and-regulations


I also found this on that page:

GOOD BEHAVIOR INCENTIVE: A player will automatically reduce his yellow card accumulation total by one yellow card each time he appears in five consecutive matches without receiving a yellow card, red card or supplemental discipline in such matches. For clarity, a player cannot have a negative yellow card accumulation total; the Good Behavior Incentive can only reset to a zero-card total. This incentive will be automatically applied a maximum of three times throughout the course of the MLS Regular Season.

For example, if a player on his third caution of the season completes five consecutive matches without receiving a card or supplemental discipline, that player will have one yellow card caution removed from his cumulative total, leaving the player with a total of two yellow cards. This player now has two remaining Good Behavior Incentive opportunities for the MLS Regular Season. If that player completes five more consecutive matches without receiving a card or supplemental discipline, one more yellow card is removed from his cumulative total leaving the player with a total of one yellow card and one more Good Behavior Incentive opportunity.

Leeds players could never benefit from this, but quite interesting anyway.

off topic slightly but staying with the MLS. They trialled player commentary the other week. Brad Guzan was microphoned up and gave in game coverage, a bit like Jamie Redknapp at sky with news from the touchline Absolutely brilliant idea imo