comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
I dont think ot would be any surprise to see Morata outscore Lukaku this season.
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Considering the only time in both of their entire careers Morata has outscored Lukaku is the season Lukaku spent on the Chelsea bench while Morata was scoring goals in the "Segunda Division B" keeping in mind Morata is one year older than Lukaku as well, it be a difference from normal. Every other season Lukaku has outscored Morata, and that's a 100% fact.

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
Pranay are you a bit unnerved that a lot of utd fans want lukaku dropped and don't rate him?
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I think him and Nobb are the only United fans that do rate him.

All opposition fans want him in United's team though, understandably!!
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Even the ones who support teams who Lukaku scored against... like Chelsea?
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In fairness most won't consider united as rivals so probably don't care who starts for us week in and out

Comparison

2008-09 Lukaku 0 goals Morata no stats
2009-10 Lukaku 19 goals Morata no stats
2010-11 Lukaku 20 goals Morata 15 goals*
2011-12 Lukaku 2 goals Morata 18 goals*
2012-13 Lukaku 17 goals Morata 14 goals*
2013-14 Lukaku 16 goals Morata 9 goals
2014-15 Lukaku 20 goals Morata 15 goals
2015-16 Lukaku 25 goals Morata 12 goals
2016-17 Lukaku 26 goals Morata 20 goals
2017-18 Lukaku 27 goals Morata 15 goals
2018-19 (so far) Lukaku 4 goals Morata 6 goals

*most of these goals are for Real Madrid B in the Spanish second division

Over their entire careers Lukaku has been a prolific goalscorer, Morata has never been. It would definitely be a surprise to see Morata outscore Lukaku this season.

comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
Pranay are you a bit unnerved that a lot of utd fans want lukaku dropped and don't rate him?
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I think him and Nobb are the only United fans that do rate him.

All opposition fans want him in United's team though, understandably!!
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Even the ones who support teams who Lukaku scored against... like Chelsea?
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In fairness most won't consider united as rivals so probably don't care who starts for us week in and out
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Do you think Morata is better than Lukaku?

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
Comparison

2008-09 Lukaku 0 goals Morata no stats
2009-10 Lukaku 19 goals Morata no stats
2010-11 Lukaku 20 goals Morata 15 goals*
2011-12 Lukaku 2 goals Morata 18 goals*
2012-13 Lukaku 17 goals Morata 14 goals*
2013-14 Lukaku 16 goals Morata 9 goals
2014-15 Lukaku 20 goals Morata 15 goals
2015-16 Lukaku 25 goals Morata 12 goals
2016-17 Lukaku 26 goals Morata 20 goals
2017-18 Lukaku 27 goals Morata 15 goals
2018-19 (so far) Lukaku 4 goals Morata 6 goals

*most of these goals are for Real Madrid B in the Spanish second division

Over their entire careers Lukaku has been a prolific goalscorer, Morata has never been. It would definitely be a surprise to see Morata outscore Lukaku this season.
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Nah.

comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
Pranay are you a bit unnerved that a lot of utd fans want lukaku dropped and don't rate him?
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I think him and Nobb are the only United fans that do rate him.

All opposition fans want him in United's team though, understandably!!
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Even the ones who support teams who Lukaku scored against... like Chelsea?
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In fairness most won't consider united as rivals so probably don't care who starts for us week in and out
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Do you think Morata is better than Lukaku?
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No... But I don't think either are good enough and both United and Chelsea should have better

comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
Pranay are you a bit unnerved that a lot of utd fans want lukaku dropped and don't rate him?
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I think him and Nobb are the only United fans that do rate him.

All opposition fans want him in United's team though, understandably!!
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Even the ones who support teams who Lukaku scored against... like Chelsea?
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In fairness most won't consider united as rivals so probably don't care who starts for us week in and out
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Do you think Morata is better than Lukaku?
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No... But I don't think either are good enough and both United and Chelsea should have better
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So then if you think Lukaku is better why not try backing me up instead of nitpicking my comments?

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
And Lukaku isn't better than Aguero

And who's better out of Lukaku and Morata doesn't interest me in the slightest
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Why are you reading this article then?
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I like watching you get owned on every fatuous argument you present

it's very entertaining

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Whatever. It is a nice change to see your comments today actually make sense though, normally you can't really understand what you're trying to say.
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that's just you though

comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 6 minutes ago
Pranay are you a bit unnerved that a lot of utd fans want lukaku dropped and don't rate him?
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I think him and Nobb are the only United fans that do rate him.

All opposition fans want him in United's team though, understandably!!
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Even the ones who support teams who Lukaku scored against... like Chelsea?
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In fairness most won't consider united as rivals so probably don't care who starts for us week in and out
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Do you think Morata is better than Lukaku?
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No... But I don't think either are good enough and both United and Chelsea should have better
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So then if you think Lukaku is better why not try backing me up instead of nitpicking my comments?
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Because I still don't think he's good enough so it's pretty irrelevant... And I'm bored... And you tell lies

I don't think I've ever struggled to understand anything sheriff has sad on this site and I've been a member on here for years. It really points to you having a mental deficiency more than anything pranay.

said not sad*^

This is such an Erik article. Topic that's been done to death and the argument while having undertones of truth is shady as hell.

The hilarious thing about this debate is I've never known two players occupying the same position of a similar age with such polarizing football educations, backgrounds in terms of how they got their breaks, and qualities they bring to their teams - yet be so aligned in their degree of averageness. They're both classic cases of the nature > nurture argument

The fact Lukaku scores more goals consistently doesn't tip the scale in any way at all. I could counter by saying Morata's scoring in a CL final (and scoring more in the CL in general) means he's scored bigger goals on bigger stages more consistently than Lukaku has, and that doesn't make Morata better either.

comment by The Devil's Advocate's Advocate - I Represent Him (U6522)
posted 27 minutes ago
This is such an Erik article. Topic that's been done to death and the argument while having undertones of truth is shady as hell.

The hilarious thing about this debate is I've never known two players occupying the same position of a similar age with such polarizing football educations, backgrounds in terms of how they got their breaks, and qualities they bring to their teams - yet be so aligned in their degree of averageness. They're both classic cases of the nature > nurture argument

The fact Lukaku scores more goals consistently doesn't tip the scale in any way at all. I could counter by saying Morata's scoring in a CL final (and scoring more in the CL in general) means he's scored bigger goals on bigger stages more consistently than Lukaku has, and that doesn't make Morata better either.
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So by the same logic Erik used with Drogba/Anelka he should rate Morata higher.

That guy contradicts himself more than Trump

Devil with the comment of the day

The fact Lukaku scores more goals consistently doesn't tip the scale in any way at all.
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Why wouldn't it?

pranay read the rest of his comment and you'll know why

Because in modern football strikers need more than just goals in their game. Lukaku would've been a brilliant striker in the 90's, especially at United in Ferguson's 4-4-2, but in today's game he lacks the technical skill and off the ball movement to truly be a great striker.

While the PL has proven to physically taxing for Morata, his time in La Liga & Serie A (two very competitive leagues) showed he's a MUCH better player off the ball than Lukaku.

I'll put it to you in a way you'll really appreciate. Mourinho really likes complete forwards (e.g. Drogba, Benzema, Ibra, etc...) he took one look at Morata as a youth player at Real and threw him in/left before he could develop him. He took one look at Lukaku at Chelsea and binned him for Costa

I've said Lukaku is limited. What I'm saying is that even limited he's better than Morata, who has been diabolical at Chelsea, didn't achieve a huge amount at Real and wasn't that good at Juventus. I appreciate that he scored a few important goals for Juventus, but 15 and 12 goals in his two seasons there is pretty weak. You say strikers need more than goals, well they need goals in the first place before you can talk about what else they offer. Lukaku has that part covered, Morata doesn't.

As for the stuff about Mourinho, he didn't 'bin' Lukaku. He signed Costa because Lukaku's development wasn't over and Lukaku then asked to leave. And OK, Mourinho used Morata at Real Madrid. And? He's used Lukaku at Man Utd (after spending a lot of money to sign him as well) and has consistently played him for over a year now.

You say strikers need more than goals, well they need goals in the first place before
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Then how do you explain France winning their last two world cups with a striker up top that wasn't scoring?

Im guessing more spin, hypocrisy and contractions

What does that have to do with anything? They didn't it because of Giroud, did they? He's shiiit.

*didn't win it

You say strikers need more than goals, well they need goals in the first place before you can talk about what else they offer.
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True to a point... e.g. by accepted standards Firmino's goal return isn't anything to ride home about as a striker but any Liverpool fan will tell you he's critical to how they play/wouldn't swap him for your run of the mill 20 goal a season striker. Goals are the bread and butter yes, but other factors are just as relevant and that's where Lukaku is strongly lacking.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree that Lukaku's the better player, certainly the better PL player, but both there weaknesses are so glaring that there's not much point debating it.

The Mourinho thing was me being cheeky btw. Wasn't a serious argument

That's fair enough I guess. I still think people are too harsh on Lukaku considering the amount of goals he's scored. Like 10 years ago any striker scoring 25+ goals a season would have been really highly rated. Yet all people do now is say how bad Lukaku is.

Erik: It's all about goals that's why Lukaku is better than Morata because he's scored almost double the goals.

Me: But you said Drogba was better in 08/09 than Anelka even though Anelka scored almost double the goals.

Erik: Anelka may have got more goals in 08/09 but Drogba's were more important so Drogba was better that season.

Devils: Morata's got more important goals than Lukaku is his career.

Erik (putting his fingers in his ear): bla bla bla im not listening.

Basically Erik's hypocrisy summed up

It's not hypocrisy, those are just two completely different scenarios