The only thing in question here with happenings is morality & if Bielsa can sleep at night then all good.
Took the words put my mouth Rev. If we had a bonafide rule that held weight and was broken, it would be all over the news.
They ain't got sht on us, other than a finger wag. All they are doing is galvanizing the club, fans and squad.
Passed on the support from the USA, this site and the other site for MB to someone in the club, who promised to share it with MB tomorrow.
Can see Derby play every match day.
This really is a storm in a tea cup.
At most, they could introduce rules regarding spying
Somehow I doubt it
On the scale of cheating it’s not on the scale.
Stuart Pearce has today suggested that the result should be reversed so that the punishment fits the crime.
What are these people on.
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 47 minutes ago
Stuart Pearce has today suggested that the result should be reversed so that the punishment fits the crime.
What are these people on.
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Totally psycho!
Let's allow teams to spy on us. We'd still smash them
Stuart Pearce is an idiot.
Can't help shaking feeling that the judge jury and executioner that is the EFL will come down hard on this flying in the face of all the logic that has been pointed out on here and come up with their own twisted logic to back up their punishment.
It's a shame we are once again at the mercy of them.Got to circle the wagons, win as many games as we can and stick 2 fingers up at Sky, EFL, washed out ex players so that if any punitive punishment is handed out we go up anyway.
we fully deserve to be investigated and punished for this. The manager has held his hands up and admitted to it, we just have to take it on the chin. The fans who always jump up and crying foul at the football league are devaluing any genuine complaints and grievances we have. Lets just accept we are in the wrong and move on.
I would add though that Lampard's comments smack of hypocrisy and this is a very convenient controversy for him to jump on to take the spotlight from his sides faltering campaign.
I don't think we deserve to be punished at all. to be punished you have to do something wrong. there is nothing in the rule book that says we can't spy on other teams training sessions.
I'm trying to take my Leeds blinkers off on this one, and how would I feel if somebody was spying on our sessions. It honestly wouldn't bother me.
I don't thinks amoral either - I really don't, in fact, I would of thought its common practice.
comment by Leedsforever (U15976)
posted 20 minutes ago
we fully deserve to be investigated and punished for this. The manager has held his hands up and admitted to it, we just have to take it on the chin. The fans who always jump up and crying foul at the football league are devaluing any genuine complaints and grievances we have. Lets just accept we are in the wrong and move on.
I would add though that Lampard's comments smack of hypocrisy and this is a very convenient controversy for him to jump on to take the spotlight from his sides faltering campaign.
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If no rules have been broken, how the feck can this be wrong?
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 14 minutes ago
I don't think we deserve to be punished at all. to be punished you have to do something wrong. there is nothing in the rule book that says we can't spy on other teams training sessions.
I'm trying to take my Leeds blinkers off on this one, and how would I feel if somebody was spying on our sessions. It honestly wouldn't bother me.
I don't thinks amoral either - I really don't, in fact, I would of thought its common practice.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bang on fella
I always try to convince myself that no footballing body "has it in for us", but each time something like this arises, I just get that nagging feeling we're being held to higher ethical, moral or financial standard. I doubt it's the case, but it does feel that way at times.
As for the actual incident - just seems to be something out of nothing. A breach of a code of ethics maybe - an unwritten code I believe? I read about Villas-Boas and his work for Mourinho, makes the Lampard incredulity all the more laughable. It's okay when he benefits, but an outrage when his team (expensive team) are played off the park and he has no answer to it.
I've a nasty feeling we'll be punished and will be made an example of .......
pearce looked drunk to me
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Leedsforever (U15976)
posted 20 minutes ago
If no rules have been broken, how the feck can this be wrong?
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Where have you and all others spouting this been lately? CLEARLY rules have been broken.
This isn’t the issue.
The ONLY issue will be if there is any inconsistency of punishment above a small fine, as dished out last time a similar thing happened at Crystal Palace in 2014.
comment by VOF - are we there yet? (U17124)
posted 16 minutes ago
I always try to convince myself that no footballing body "has it in for us", but each time something like this arises, I just get that nagging feeling we're being held to higher ethical, moral or financial standard. I doubt it's the case, but it does feel that way at times.
As for the actual incident - just seems to be something out of nothing. A breach of a code of ethics maybe - an unwritten code I believe? I read about Villas-Boas and his work for Mourinho, makes the Lampard incredulity all the more laughable. It's okay when he benefits, but an outrage when his team (expensive team) are played off the park and he has no answer to it.
I've a nasty feeling we'll be punished and will be made an example of .......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My take on it is that the EFL are not out to get us or whatever, but that there is more scrutiny on us not only because of our reputation but also because of media pressure. When something like this happens to Leeds then it's national news spread out across headlines. Notice this is only true of negative stories.
The media circus, including pundits and journalists, make the issue out to be more than it was, calling for radical punishments etc, and this puts pressure on the EFL to be seen as responding.
One would hope that they react similarly to the Pontus situation earlier in the year and give us a marginal punishment.
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
comment by Uncle Herbert (U16263)
posted 37 seconds ago
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
-----------
brilliant comment, thanks for your input mate
comment by Uncle Herbert (U16263)
posted 42 seconds ago
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OH WANNKY WANNKY
comment by Uncle Herbert (U16263)
posted 3 minutes ago
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We're not famous anymore.
comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Leedsforever (U15976)
posted 20 minutes ago
If no rules have been broken, how the feck can this be wrong?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where have you and all others spouting this been lately? CLEARLY rules have been broken.
This isn’t the issue.
The ONLY issue will be if there is any inconsistency of punishment above a small fine, as dished out last time a similar thing happened at Crystal Palace in 2014.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please let me know exactly what rule from where has been broken?
What an unfit for purpose organisation they are!
Deduct us 3 points, give Derby the win....I dare you Shaun!
All it will do is make us stronger, a harsh punishment will all but seal the deal on promotion in my opinion.
Found this, which what may go against us........
Rule B.16 states that "in all matters and transactions relating to the League, each club shall behave towards each other club and the league with the utmost good faith".
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posted on 15/1/19
The only thing in question here with happenings is morality & if Bielsa can sleep at night then all good.
posted on 15/1/19
Took the words put my mouth Rev. If we had a bonafide rule that held weight and was broken, it would be all over the news.
They ain't got sht on us, other than a finger wag. All they are doing is galvanizing the club, fans and squad.
posted on 15/1/19
Passed on the support from the USA, this site and the other site for MB to someone in the club, who promised to share it with MB tomorrow.
posted on 15/1/19
Can see Derby play every match day.
This really is a storm in a tea cup.
At most, they could introduce rules regarding spying
Somehow I doubt it
On the scale of cheating it’s not on the scale.
posted on 15/1/19
Stuart Pearce has today suggested that the result should be reversed so that the punishment fits the crime.
What are these people on.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 47 minutes ago
Stuart Pearce has today suggested that the result should be reversed so that the punishment fits the crime.
What are these people on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Totally psycho!
posted on 16/1/19
Let's allow teams to spy on us. We'd still smash them
posted on 16/1/19
Stuart Pearce is an idiot.
posted on 16/1/19
Can't help shaking feeling that the judge jury and executioner that is the EFL will come down hard on this flying in the face of all the logic that has been pointed out on here and come up with their own twisted logic to back up their punishment.
It's a shame we are once again at the mercy of them.Got to circle the wagons, win as many games as we can and stick 2 fingers up at Sky, EFL, washed out ex players so that if any punitive punishment is handed out we go up anyway.
posted on 16/1/19
we fully deserve to be investigated and punished for this. The manager has held his hands up and admitted to it, we just have to take it on the chin. The fans who always jump up and crying foul at the football league are devaluing any genuine complaints and grievances we have. Lets just accept we are in the wrong and move on.
I would add though that Lampard's comments smack of hypocrisy and this is a very convenient controversy for him to jump on to take the spotlight from his sides faltering campaign.
posted on 16/1/19
I don't think we deserve to be punished at all. to be punished you have to do something wrong. there is nothing in the rule book that says we can't spy on other teams training sessions.
I'm trying to take my Leeds blinkers off on this one, and how would I feel if somebody was spying on our sessions. It honestly wouldn't bother me.
I don't thinks amoral either - I really don't, in fact, I would of thought its common practice.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Leedsforever (U15976)
posted 20 minutes ago
we fully deserve to be investigated and punished for this. The manager has held his hands up and admitted to it, we just have to take it on the chin. The fans who always jump up and crying foul at the football league are devaluing any genuine complaints and grievances we have. Lets just accept we are in the wrong and move on.
I would add though that Lampard's comments smack of hypocrisy and this is a very convenient controversy for him to jump on to take the spotlight from his sides faltering campaign.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If no rules have been broken, how the feck can this be wrong?
posted on 16/1/19
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 14 minutes ago
I don't think we deserve to be punished at all. to be punished you have to do something wrong. there is nothing in the rule book that says we can't spy on other teams training sessions.
I'm trying to take my Leeds blinkers off on this one, and how would I feel if somebody was spying on our sessions. It honestly wouldn't bother me.
I don't thinks amoral either - I really don't, in fact, I would of thought its common practice.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bang on fella
posted on 16/1/19
I always try to convince myself that no footballing body "has it in for us", but each time something like this arises, I just get that nagging feeling we're being held to higher ethical, moral or financial standard. I doubt it's the case, but it does feel that way at times.
As for the actual incident - just seems to be something out of nothing. A breach of a code of ethics maybe - an unwritten code I believe? I read about Villas-Boas and his work for Mourinho, makes the Lampard incredulity all the more laughable. It's okay when he benefits, but an outrage when his team (expensive team) are played off the park and he has no answer to it.
I've a nasty feeling we'll be punished and will be made an example of .......
posted on 16/1/19
pearce looked drunk to me
posted on 16/1/19
VOF... me too mate
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Leedsforever (U15976)
posted 20 minutes ago
If no rules have been broken, how the feck can this be wrong?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where have you and all others spouting this been lately? CLEARLY rules have been broken.
This isn’t the issue.
The ONLY issue will be if there is any inconsistency of punishment above a small fine, as dished out last time a similar thing happened at Crystal Palace in 2014.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by VOF - are we there yet? (U17124)
posted 16 minutes ago
I always try to convince myself that no footballing body "has it in for us", but each time something like this arises, I just get that nagging feeling we're being held to higher ethical, moral or financial standard. I doubt it's the case, but it does feel that way at times.
As for the actual incident - just seems to be something out of nothing. A breach of a code of ethics maybe - an unwritten code I believe? I read about Villas-Boas and his work for Mourinho, makes the Lampard incredulity all the more laughable. It's okay when he benefits, but an outrage when his team (expensive team) are played off the park and he has no answer to it.
I've a nasty feeling we'll be punished and will be made an example of .......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My take on it is that the EFL are not out to get us or whatever, but that there is more scrutiny on us not only because of our reputation but also because of media pressure. When something like this happens to Leeds then it's national news spread out across headlines. Notice this is only true of negative stories.
The media circus, including pundits and journalists, make the issue out to be more than it was, calling for radical punishments etc, and this puts pressure on the EFL to be seen as responding.
One would hope that they react similarly to the Pontus situation earlier in the year and give us a marginal punishment.
posted on 16/1/19
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Uncle Herbert (U16263)
posted 37 seconds ago
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
-----------
brilliant comment, thanks for your input mate
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Uncle Herbert (U16263)
posted 42 seconds ago
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OH WANNKY WANNKY
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Uncle Herbert (U16263)
posted 3 minutes ago
A £50 fine will just about tip Leeds into administration
Same old Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Wolves go marching on
UNC
Wolverhampton
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We're not famous anymore.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Leedsforever (U15976)
posted 20 minutes ago
If no rules have been broken, how the feck can this be wrong?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where have you and all others spouting this been lately? CLEARLY rules have been broken.
This isn’t the issue.
The ONLY issue will be if there is any inconsistency of punishment above a small fine, as dished out last time a similar thing happened at Crystal Palace in 2014.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please let me know exactly what rule from where has been broken?
posted on 16/1/19
What an unfit for purpose organisation they are!
Deduct us 3 points, give Derby the win....I dare you Shaun!
All it will do is make us stronger, a harsh punishment will all but seal the deal on promotion in my opinion.
posted on 16/1/19
Found this, which what may go against us........
Rule B.16 states that "in all matters and transactions relating to the League, each club shall behave towards each other club and the league with the utmost good faith".
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