So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
It’s not against the rules in the first place. There is no rule. Cmon people.
He just wanted to prove a point.
El loco
comment by lufc - Harrogate (U6810)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s not against the rules in the first place. There is no rule. Cmon people.
He just wanted to prove a point.
El loco
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Fair play. Like the cut of his jib.
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
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nah, basically said "here is what Im all about, wtf you gonna do about it?"
and, "oh yeah, Frank, fack off "
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
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Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
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Exactly.. perfectly made point by the artist formerly known as Laudrup*
He’s done nothing wrong at all. Media in this country make mountains out of mole hills.
If you don’t put a barrier around your training ground you can’t complain that the opposition team are watching you train.
For years fans used to watch Liverpool training standing on wheelie bins. When social media Kicked in our starting line ups were all over the internet the day before the game.
It’s not illegal so I am happy he came out and was declaring everything that he has done for transparency.
I also like the fact he is putting 2 fingers up to everyone. I think he is a great manager. Love his style. Miss Leeds in the top flight. Huge club like that deserved to be playing in the premiership if they win the league.
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
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Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
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Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
And the league will in turn no doubt be taken to the CAS as they don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to charging him, or Leeds with anything.
He is undoubtedly amongst the top ten people alive at the moment.
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
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Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
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Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
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Is there a rule that says it is illegal to watch an opposition team train? Fans watch training all the time so there is no stopping it unless you build a huge wall.
Don’t employ a wall builder called Trump though as he will ask you to pay for it yourself
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
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Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
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Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
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Is there a rule that says it is illegal to watch an opposition team train? Fans watch training all the time so there is no stopping it unless you build a huge wall.
Don’t employ a wall builder called Trump though as he will ask you to pay for it yourself
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Tbf I think most people do pay a guy if he comes and builds something for them.
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
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Exactly.. perfectly made point by the artist formerly known as Laudrup*
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Don’t remind me
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
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Is there a rule that says it is illegal to watch an opposition team train? Fans watch training all the time so there is no stopping it unless you build a huge wall.
Don’t employ a wall builder called Trump though as he will ask you to pay for it yourself
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Tbf I think most people do pay a guy if he comes and builds something for them.
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Not if they don’t want it.
Seems like he went to a whole lot of bother, but the FA or league might charge him under some general, catch-all provision such as 'bringing the game into disrepute'.
Love Bielsa, an absolute genius. Sitting down with Guardiola after Barca beat his Bilbao side and showing pep everything he had on Barca, pep just looked at him and said “you know more about Barca than i do”.
To be fair to Bielsa, as he pointed out, he already had all the information he needed on derby. He didn’t actually find anything extra out about them through the training session.
I can’t wait to have in the premier league, his press conferences are going to be phenomenal
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
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That's what surprises me about some of the reactions, I thought trying to get intel on the other team before a match was standard in football?
Little whispers here and there about an injured striker or talking to a friend of a friend to get a bit of inside info on possible tactics or what have you. Is the problem just that he admitted it?
F*ck it anyway, I think today has been hilarious, spying on every team then creating documents which have a Rainman level of detail to them was pretty impressive. Also, the jokes going around about Bielsa knowing more about Derby than Lampard were amusing too.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
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Their training ground is fenced off and hidden from view.
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You notice nobody batted an eyelid at Wolves sending 11 guys to watch Man City train on Monday night
In my opinion it's underhand. But I think not as bad as some are making it out to be. Chelsea have someone in every training ground in Europe on loan just about.
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
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Their training ground is fenced off and hidden from view.
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Then he wouldn’t have seen anything unless he broke in or hey, maybe he just wandered in.
If he broke in then I’m sure the law will have a say. If he wandered in then they can’t take their training session security very seriously. In which case tough. It’s a multi million pound sport ffs. Every point might mean a place up the table and the financial rewards that go with it. Amateur at best.
I sit in the directors box at our ground and at every game there’s scouts and managers and in among them will be at least one representative of the team we’ll be playing next. Sat taking notes and more than likely made very welcome by our club.
It’s part of the game and to jump on a soapbox over this Bielsa thing is palpably laughable.
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 32 minutes ago
In my opinion it's underhand. But I think not as bad as some are making it out to be. Chelsea have someone in every training ground in Europe on loan just about.
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It's also on record that Chelsea did this under Mourinho. Whilst Lampard was there.
The spying gained us no advantage. We were physically better than them in every sense of the word. Quicker, sharper, fitter. Cant blame wire cutters on that one.
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posted on 16/1/19
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
posted on 16/1/19
It’s not against the rules in the first place. There is no rule. Cmon people.
He just wanted to prove a point.
El loco
posted on 16/1/19
comment by lufc - Harrogate (U6810)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s not against the rules in the first place. There is no rule. Cmon people.
He just wanted to prove a point.
El loco
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Fair play. Like the cut of his jib.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
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nah, basically said "here is what Im all about, wtf you gonna do about it?"
and, "oh yeah, Frank, fack off "
posted on 16/1/19
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.. perfectly made point by the artist formerly known as Laudrup*
posted on 16/1/19
He’s done nothing wrong at all. Media in this country make mountains out of mole hills.
If you don’t put a barrier around your training ground you can’t complain that the opposition team are watching you train.
For years fans used to watch Liverpool training standing on wheelie bins. When social media Kicked in our starting line ups were all over the internet the day before the game.
It’s not illegal so I am happy he came out and was declaring everything that he has done for transparency.
I also like the fact he is putting 2 fingers up to everyone. I think he is a great manager. Love his style. Miss Leeds in the top flight. Huge club like that deserved to be playing in the premiership if they win the league.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
posted on 16/1/19
And the league will in turn no doubt be taken to the CAS as they don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to charging him, or Leeds with anything.
posted on 16/1/19
He is undoubtedly amongst the top ten people alive at the moment.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a rule that says it is illegal to watch an opposition team train? Fans watch training all the time so there is no stopping it unless you build a huge wall.
Don’t employ a wall builder called Trump though as he will ask you to pay for it yourself
posted on 16/1/19
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a rule that says it is illegal to watch an opposition team train? Fans watch training all the time so there is no stopping it unless you build a huge wall.
Don’t employ a wall builder called Trump though as he will ask you to pay for it yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbf I think most people do pay a guy if he comes and builds something for them.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.. perfectly made point by the artist formerly known as Laudrup*
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Don’t remind me
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by T Bone Steak Roysters (U3947)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf--He's only going for another prediction comp double ffs (U11551)
posted 7 minutes ago
So has he just dug himself a deeper hole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please explain?
He hasn't broken any rules.
Spying in football has undoubtedly gone on for years, he just got caught.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because i will be amazed if the football league don't take some kind of action. No idea why anybody would think they will act rationally over this.
For what its worth i agree that it shouldn't be punishable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there a rule that says it is illegal to watch an opposition team train? Fans watch training all the time so there is no stopping it unless you build a huge wall.
Don’t employ a wall builder called Trump though as he will ask you to pay for it yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbf I think most people do pay a guy if he comes and builds something for them.
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Not if they don’t want it.
posted on 16/1/19
Seems like he went to a whole lot of bother, but the FA or league might charge him under some general, catch-all provision such as 'bringing the game into disrepute'.
posted on 16/1/19
Love Bielsa, an absolute genius. Sitting down with Guardiola after Barca beat his Bilbao side and showing pep everything he had on Barca, pep just looked at him and said “you know more about Barca than i do”.
To be fair to Bielsa, as he pointed out, he already had all the information he needed on derby. He didn’t actually find anything extra out about them through the training session.
I can’t wait to have in the premier league, his press conferences are going to be phenomenal
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's what surprises me about some of the reactions, I thought trying to get intel on the other team before a match was standard in football?
Little whispers here and there about an injured striker or talking to a friend of a friend to get a bit of inside info on possible tactics or what have you. Is the problem just that he admitted it?
F*ck it anyway, I think today has been hilarious, spying on every team then creating documents which have a Rainman level of detail to them was pretty impressive. Also, the jokes going around about Bielsa knowing more about Derby than Lampard were amusing too.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
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Their training ground is fenced off and hidden from view.
posted on 16/1/19
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posted on 16/1/19
You notice nobody batted an eyelid at Wolves sending 11 guys to watch Man City train on Monday night
posted on 16/1/19
In my opinion it's underhand. But I think not as bad as some are making it out to be. Chelsea have someone in every training ground in Europe on loan just about.
posted on 17/1/19
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Unless his “spy” turned up in a balaclava and a set of bolt cutters to break in then he’s doing what any decent manager should do.
Gain as much information about your opponents as you can to try and win.
Ffs Sun Tzu started that centuries ago.
Derby were thrashed. Anyone who puts their training sessions in the public eye in today’s modern game of multi millions of pounds stakes is an idiot. They deserved to be “spied” upon.
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Their training ground is fenced off and hidden from view.
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Then he wouldn’t have seen anything unless he broke in or hey, maybe he just wandered in.
If he broke in then I’m sure the law will have a say. If he wandered in then they can’t take their training session security very seriously. In which case tough. It’s a multi million pound sport ffs. Every point might mean a place up the table and the financial rewards that go with it. Amateur at best.
I sit in the directors box at our ground and at every game there’s scouts and managers and in among them will be at least one representative of the team we’ll be playing next. Sat taking notes and more than likely made very welcome by our club.
It’s part of the game and to jump on a soapbox over this Bielsa thing is palpably laughable.
posted on 17/1/19
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 32 minutes ago
In my opinion it's underhand. But I think not as bad as some are making it out to be. Chelsea have someone in every training ground in Europe on loan just about.
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It's also on record that Chelsea did this under Mourinho. Whilst Lampard was there.
posted on 17/1/19
The spying gained us no advantage. We were physically better than them in every sense of the word. Quicker, sharper, fitter. Cant blame wire cutters on that one.
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