Kepa has been no better than average since signing. His fee is quite frankly a millstone around his neck.
World's most expensive keeper not even in the top 20.
"That said I hope the club and the fans move on........"
I might be the only one but I was glad he refused to come off. At least he showed he wanted to play and wouldn't accept someone who he thinks isn't as good as him replace him.
I think some players don't care if they start or if they're taken off.
I might be the only one
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You are not the only one....Kepa has received lots of support. I'm saddened that some of our fans are taken in my the media spin.
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
Kepa has been no better than average since signing. His fee is quite frankly a millstone around his neck.
World's most expensive keeper not even in the top 20.
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I agree with that. IMO some fans had taken to him a little too quickly because they're desperate to convince themselves we traded up after Courtois.
He's been solid, you can see him growing into a top keeper, but he's not been playing like a top echelon keeper just yet. DDG, Lloris & Ederson are all better.
"I might be the only one but I was glad he refused to come off."
"You are not the only one....Kepa has received lots of support."
wow, just wow
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
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That was a tame reaction in the circumstances, managers like Mourinho, Conte, Simeone, etc... would've dragged him off the pitch.
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kepa has been no better than average since signing. His fee is quite frankly a millstone around his neck.
World's most expensive keeper not even in the top 20.
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I agree with that. IMO some fans had taken to him a little too quickly because they're desperate to convince themselves we traded up after Courtois.
He's been solid, you can see him growing into a top keeper, but he's not been playing like a top echelon keeper just yet. DDG, Lloris & Ederson are all better.
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I've not even seen anything that makes me think he has potential to be one of them.
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
comment by NonnyMus (U4509)
posted 26 minutes ago
I might be the only one but I was glad he refused to come off. At least he showed he wanted to play and wouldn't accept someone who he thinks isn't as good as him replace him.
I think some players don't care if they start or if they're taken off.
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This is such a weird view. So anytime a player is subbed off they’re within their right to refuse because they ‘show pashun’ and ‘believe in their ability’. Literally every player is disappointed when they’re subbed off, usually visibly.
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
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That was a tame reaction in the circumstances,
managers like Mourinho, Conte, Simeone, etc... would've dragged him off the pitch.
Yes , that would have been good. so why did he not go and do that? Not drag him, but speak some words in his ear. That would have been much better than playing the outraged husband in front of the millions...
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 1 minute ago
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
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That was a tame reaction in the circumstances,
managers like Mourinho, Conte, Simeone, etc... would've dragged him off the pitch.
Yes , that would have been good. so why did he not go and do that? Not drag him, but speak some words in his ear. That would have been much better than playing the outraged husband in front of the millions...
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He wouldn’t got sent off if he left his technical box, counter productive. Why didn’t Kepa go to him and quickly explain he’s not injured is what I question.
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
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That's a bit harsh. He is decent. Minus the occasional nervy moment his distribution from the back is very good, it's his shot stopping that's a bit meh to me. One of those keepers who'll keep the ones he's meant to out, but I don't see a world class save in him.
But he is very young in keeper terms so I'll willing to give him plenty of time. And, minus what happened Sunday, he comes across like a well educated, driven young man - which after all Courtois' high maintenance is very refreshing.
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
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Why didn’t Kepa go to him and quickly explain he’s not injured is what I question.
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exactly
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
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That's a bit harsh. He is decent. Minus the occasional nervy moment his distribution from the back is very good, it's his shot stopping that's a bit meh to me. One of those keepers who'll keep the ones he's meant to out, but I don't see a world class save in him.
But he is very young in keeper terms so I'll willing to give him plenty of time. And, minus what happened Sunday, he comes across like a well educated, driven young man - which after all Courtois' high maintenance is very refreshing.
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That wink at the end of the match seemed to channel a bit of Courtois I agree with you that he’s a good ‘keeper but a few of our fans were too quick to proclaim him as great and under the radar. Good thing is that ‘keeper is probably the easiest position to get away with if you still want to build a world class side, if that makes sense
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
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That's a bit harsh. He is decent. Minus the occasional nervy moment his distribution from the back is very good, it's his shot stopping that's a bit meh to me. One of those keepers who'll keep the ones he's meant to out, but I don't see a world class save in him.
But he is very young in keeper terms so I'll willing to give him plenty of time. And, minus what happened Sunday, he comes across like a well educated, driven young man - which after all Courtois' high maintenance is very refreshing.
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Not harsh, they are both capable PL keepers.
Kepa is in that second bracket of keepers behind De Gea and Ederson, (maybe Allison if he stops being such a bombscare with his feet) but i've seen nothing to suggest he will be joining them.
My point would be that at 70m it doesn't look a very astute signing, it would appear a lot of money was spent on a solid if unspectacular keeper. When you pay a world record fee you expect top class and you haven't got top class
The fact is KK that maybe the on pitch Medics are partly responsible for this situation. Remember that Kepa spent several minutes on his back being attended to, unaware of the medic to bench communications.
If he had not been injured in the action previously then nothing would have happened. Its up to the player, especially the stopper, to say if he can continue or not.
So was it a change of mind on his part or did the medics signal change required without asking Kepa? That needs to be sorted.
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No-one can deny that Kepa has the potential to be the best ever Chelsea keeper, eventually better than Cudicini and Cech. Time is on his side. He has the talent, and now we know also the bottle and passion.
My point would be that at 70m it doesn't look a very astute signing, it would appear a lot of money was spent on a solid if unspectacular keeper. When you pay a world record fee you expect top class and you haven't got top class
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True if he was in his late 20's, but he's got so much time to develop into a world class keeper. The record fee was a result of Courtois forcing our hand, when you factor in his sale the clubs investment in Kepa is slided in half to 35mil - that's not bad for what we've got right now.
This is such a weird view. So anytime a player is subbed off they’re within their right to refuse because they ‘show pashun’ and ‘believe in their ability’. Literally every player is disappointed when they’re subbed off, usually visibly.
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I don't agree with this. I can't remember the last time a Chelsea player looked disappointed at being subbed off.
I also didn't say he had the right to refuse, just glad that he showed that he wanted to stay on (albeit maybe not in the right way)
comment by NonnyMus (U4509)
posted 1 minute ago
This is such a weird view. So anytime a player is subbed off they’re within their right to refuse because they ‘show pashun’ and ‘believe in their ability’. Literally every player is disappointed when they’re subbed off, usually visibly.
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I don't agree with this. I can't remember the last time a Chelsea player looked disappointed at being subbed off.
I also didn't say he had the right to refuse, just glad that he showed that he wanted to stay on (albeit maybe not in the right way)
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It happens relatively often that a player *looks* disappointed when subbed off. I can’t name any specific examples because it is such a regular thing. If they look particularly shocked the commentators usually pick up on it.
I’m not ‘glad’ to see any player show dissent to their manager, in fact it was a bit awkward to watch.
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 24 minutes ago
The fact is KK that maybe the on pitch Medics are partly responsible for this situation. Remember that Kepa spent several minutes on his back being attended to, unaware of the medic to bench communications.
If he had not been injured in the action previously then nothing would have happened. Its up to the player, especially the stopper, to say if he can continue or not.
So was it a change of mind on his part or did the medics signal change required without asking Kepa? That needs to be sorted.
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I agree that multiple people at fault, not just Kepa. Lots of little things and lack of communication that built to it all overflowing. Medic team included who I am surprised it took ‘minutes’ for someone to tell Sarri that actually he’s not injured, as confirmed by medics. That is the ‘official’ story of course, who knows if an alternative happened.
I believe Oblak was our 1st choice to replace Courtois but he didn't want to leave Atletico. Oblak is world class.
Kepa has the potential to become a very good keeper, just improve on his shot stopping and commanding the box. For a debut season as a goalkeeper in a foreign league, he's done alright. Still very young in terms of a keeper and has not reached his peak
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 11 minutes ago
No-one can deny that Kepa has the potential to be the best ever Chelsea keeper, eventually better than Cudicini and Cech. Time is on his side. He has the talent, and now we know also the bottle and passion.
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I mean if we’re talking true bottle he’d have not let in that pen so easily after all that fiasco..not a slight at him but it doesn’t sit well with me that what looked like clear dissent, even if it was based on misunderstanding is being rewritten as a positive because it’s showing pashun.
Why didnt Sarri tell the ref Kepa was definitely coming off and to have the substitution made? Then Kepa would have been on the pitch illegally and worst case sent off.
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posted on 26/2/19
Kepa has been no better than average since signing. His fee is quite frankly a millstone around his neck.
World's most expensive keeper not even in the top 20.
posted on 26/2/19
"That said I hope the club and the fans move on........"
posted on 26/2/19
I might be the only one but I was glad he refused to come off. At least he showed he wanted to play and wouldn't accept someone who he thinks isn't as good as him replace him.
I think some players don't care if they start or if they're taken off.
posted on 26/2/19
I might be the only one
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You are not the only one....Kepa has received lots of support. I'm saddened that some of our fans are taken in my the media spin.
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
posted on 26/2/19
Kepa has been no better than average since signing. His fee is quite frankly a millstone around his neck.
World's most expensive keeper not even in the top 20.
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I agree with that. IMO some fans had taken to him a little too quickly because they're desperate to convince themselves we traded up after Courtois.
He's been solid, you can see him growing into a top keeper, but he's not been playing like a top echelon keeper just yet. DDG, Lloris & Ederson are all better.
posted on 26/2/19
"I might be the only one but I was glad he refused to come off."
"You are not the only one....Kepa has received lots of support."
wow, just wow
posted on 26/2/19
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
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That was a tame reaction in the circumstances, managers like Mourinho, Conte, Simeone, etc... would've dragged him off the pitch.
posted on 26/2/19
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kepa has been no better than average since signing. His fee is quite frankly a millstone around his neck.
World's most expensive keeper not even in the top 20.
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I agree with that. IMO some fans had taken to him a little too quickly because they're desperate to convince themselves we traded up after Courtois.
He's been solid, you can see him growing into a top keeper, but he's not been playing like a top echelon keeper just yet. DDG, Lloris & Ederson are all better.
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I've not even seen anything that makes me think he has potential to be one of them.
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
posted on 26/2/19
comment by NonnyMus (U4509)
posted 26 minutes ago
I might be the only one but I was glad he refused to come off. At least he showed he wanted to play and wouldn't accept someone who he thinks isn't as good as him replace him.
I think some players don't care if they start or if they're taken off.
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This is such a weird view. So anytime a player is subbed off they’re within their right to refuse because they ‘show pashun’ and ‘believe in their ability’. Literally every player is disappointed when they’re subbed off, usually visibly.
posted on 26/2/19
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
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That was a tame reaction in the circumstances,
managers like Mourinho, Conte, Simeone, etc... would've dragged him off the pitch.
Yes , that would have been good. so why did he not go and do that? Not drag him, but speak some words in his ear. That would have been much better than playing the outraged husband in front of the millions...
posted on 26/2/19
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 1 minute ago
Frankly I'm more shocked by Sarri's temper tantrum. Under no circumstances has this been acceptable behaviour for a manager.
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That was a tame reaction in the circumstances,
managers like Mourinho, Conte, Simeone, etc... would've dragged him off the pitch.
Yes , that would have been good. so why did he not go and do that? Not drag him, but speak some words in his ear. That would have been much better than playing the outraged husband in front of the millions...
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He wouldn’t got sent off if he left his technical box, counter productive. Why didn’t Kepa go to him and quickly explain he’s not injured is what I question.
posted on 26/2/19
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
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That's a bit harsh. He is decent. Minus the occasional nervy moment his distribution from the back is very good, it's his shot stopping that's a bit meh to me. One of those keepers who'll keep the ones he's meant to out, but I don't see a world class save in him.
But he is very young in keeper terms so I'll willing to give him plenty of time. And, minus what happened Sunday, he comes across like a well educated, driven young man - which after all Courtois' high maintenance is very refreshing.
posted on 26/2/19
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
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Why didn’t Kepa go to him and quickly explain he’s not injured is what I question.
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exactly
posted on 26/2/19
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
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That's a bit harsh. He is decent. Minus the occasional nervy moment his distribution from the back is very good, it's his shot stopping that's a bit meh to me. One of those keepers who'll keep the ones he's meant to out, but I don't see a world class save in him.
But he is very young in keeper terms so I'll willing to give him plenty of time. And, minus what happened Sunday, he comes across like a well educated, driven young man - which after all Courtois' high maintenance is very refreshing.
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That wink at the end of the match seemed to channel a bit of Courtois I agree with you that he’s a good ‘keeper but a few of our fans were too quick to proclaim him as great and under the radar. Good thing is that ‘keeper is probably the easiest position to get away with if you still want to build a world class side, if that makes sense
posted on 26/2/19
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
No better than a Nick Pope or Tom Heaton at present.
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That's a bit harsh. He is decent. Minus the occasional nervy moment his distribution from the back is very good, it's his shot stopping that's a bit meh to me. One of those keepers who'll keep the ones he's meant to out, but I don't see a world class save in him.
But he is very young in keeper terms so I'll willing to give him plenty of time. And, minus what happened Sunday, he comes across like a well educated, driven young man - which after all Courtois' high maintenance is very refreshing.
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Not harsh, they are both capable PL keepers.
Kepa is in that second bracket of keepers behind De Gea and Ederson, (maybe Allison if he stops being such a bombscare with his feet) but i've seen nothing to suggest he will be joining them.
My point would be that at 70m it doesn't look a very astute signing, it would appear a lot of money was spent on a solid if unspectacular keeper. When you pay a world record fee you expect top class and you haven't got top class
posted on 26/2/19
The fact is KK that maybe the on pitch Medics are partly responsible for this situation. Remember that Kepa spent several minutes on his back being attended to, unaware of the medic to bench communications.
If he had not been injured in the action previously then nothing would have happened. Its up to the player, especially the stopper, to say if he can continue or not.
So was it a change of mind on his part or did the medics signal change required without asking Kepa? That needs to be sorted.
posted on 26/2/19
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posted on 26/2/19
No-one can deny that Kepa has the potential to be the best ever Chelsea keeper, eventually better than Cudicini and Cech. Time is on his side. He has the talent, and now we know also the bottle and passion.
posted on 26/2/19
My point would be that at 70m it doesn't look a very astute signing, it would appear a lot of money was spent on a solid if unspectacular keeper. When you pay a world record fee you expect top class and you haven't got top class
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True if he was in his late 20's, but he's got so much time to develop into a world class keeper. The record fee was a result of Courtois forcing our hand, when you factor in his sale the clubs investment in Kepa is slided in half to 35mil - that's not bad for what we've got right now.
posted on 26/2/19
This is such a weird view. So anytime a player is subbed off they’re within their right to refuse because they ‘show pashun’ and ‘believe in their ability’. Literally every player is disappointed when they’re subbed off, usually visibly.
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I don't agree with this. I can't remember the last time a Chelsea player looked disappointed at being subbed off.
I also didn't say he had the right to refuse, just glad that he showed that he wanted to stay on (albeit maybe not in the right way)
posted on 26/2/19
comment by NonnyMus (U4509)
posted 1 minute ago
This is such a weird view. So anytime a player is subbed off they’re within their right to refuse because they ‘show pashun’ and ‘believe in their ability’. Literally every player is disappointed when they’re subbed off, usually visibly.
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I don't agree with this. I can't remember the last time a Chelsea player looked disappointed at being subbed off.
I also didn't say he had the right to refuse, just glad that he showed that he wanted to stay on (albeit maybe not in the right way)
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It happens relatively often that a player *looks* disappointed when subbed off. I can’t name any specific examples because it is such a regular thing. If they look particularly shocked the commentators usually pick up on it.
I’m not ‘glad’ to see any player show dissent to their manager, in fact it was a bit awkward to watch.
posted on 26/2/19
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 24 minutes ago
The fact is KK that maybe the on pitch Medics are partly responsible for this situation. Remember that Kepa spent several minutes on his back being attended to, unaware of the medic to bench communications.
If he had not been injured in the action previously then nothing would have happened. Its up to the player, especially the stopper, to say if he can continue or not.
So was it a change of mind on his part or did the medics signal change required without asking Kepa? That needs to be sorted.
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I agree that multiple people at fault, not just Kepa. Lots of little things and lack of communication that built to it all overflowing. Medic team included who I am surprised it took ‘minutes’ for someone to tell Sarri that actually he’s not injured, as confirmed by medics. That is the ‘official’ story of course, who knows if an alternative happened.
posted on 26/2/19
I believe Oblak was our 1st choice to replace Courtois but he didn't want to leave Atletico. Oblak is world class.
Kepa has the potential to become a very good keeper, just improve on his shot stopping and commanding the box. For a debut season as a goalkeeper in a foreign league, he's done alright. Still very young in terms of a keeper and has not reached his peak
posted on 26/2/19
comment by Tway (U1162)
posted 11 minutes ago
No-one can deny that Kepa has the potential to be the best ever Chelsea keeper, eventually better than Cudicini and Cech. Time is on his side. He has the talent, and now we know also the bottle and passion.
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I mean if we’re talking true bottle he’d have not let in that pen so easily after all that fiasco..not a slight at him but it doesn’t sit well with me that what looked like clear dissent, even if it was based on misunderstanding is being rewritten as a positive because it’s showing pashun.
posted on 26/2/19
Why didnt Sarri tell the ref Kepa was definitely coming off and to have the substitution made? Then Kepa would have been on the pitch illegally and worst case sent off.
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