orange sherbet
can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
Bloody hell Sherbet, your a bundle of joy, Cables actually lock themselves into place, so cannot be removed or stolen. tampered or damaged, possibly, but you could say that about anything, including the car.
As for something different, there are already experiments using inductive charging (same way phone charges without cable), built into roads. it is already a thing. although not common yet.
Ok admittedly this is for a hybrid car, but it shows you don't require a cable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrcPrzuPMM
I think the sound and safety of pedestrians was a fear often postulated. Anecdotally, for me, I don’t see much difference. In urban areas where cars go at 20-30mph at most where pedestrians cross a) new models don’t make *that* much engine sound and b) electric cars still make sound of tyres on the road, air movement..enough for you to notice and perceive it coming. It’s not a completely silent nightrider
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 49 seconds ago
Ok admittedly this is for a hybrid car, but it shows you don't require a cable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrcPrzuPMM
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in the real world and in mass it wont work, what they show there is even more impractical as it looks like you need a driveway and this needs to be installed into it, at least they acknowledge they need to come up with something different from cables however, more people live in flats than houses. Once they sort out this it will truly turn the masses heads. They will also be developing something that can charge whilst driving... using energy generated by the car as it moves or stops. Such as braking and the wheels turning etc and use this to charge as you drive.
for point a) I meant that new models of conventional cars don’t make that much sound, unles they’re revving obvs
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posted 12 seconds ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
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clearly you dont live in or have lived in scheme bud, they will be pulled out by the wee $hits during the night knowing that it will affect peoples days. Hell i have even seen it happen in town in Glasgow in front of people !!
Drunken Hobo
I think people are suspicious of batteries' lifespan because they last a couple of years in Samsung and Apple devices. But that's deliberate - planned obsolescence on the manufacturer's part to make you buy another phone when that one breaks.
Again good input Phones are built to fail to keep you buying new ones.
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 24 seconds ago
Drunken Hobo
I think people are suspicious of batteries' lifespan because they last a couple of years in Samsung and Apple devices. But that's deliberate - planned obsolescence on the manufacturer's part to make you buy another phone when that one breaks.
Again good inputPhones are built to fail to keep you buying new ones.
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this reminds me of school, in physics the teacher telling us how easy it would be to make light bulbs last a lifetime (this was filament light bulbs) and it would only cost about a penny extra to make them last well over 10 years each just by using a thicker filament
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
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clearly you dont live in or have lived in scheme bud, they will be pulled out by the wee $hits during the night knowing that it will affect peoples days. Hell i have even seen it happen in town in Glasgow in front of people !!
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You can't stop every caant. People could slash your tires if they wanted, is that any different?
Orange, so you think phones are built to last?
Orange I wasn't posting the BMW inductive charging as THE solution. Just showing you don't necessarily need a cable.
I could post stuff incorporated into parking spaces, but it is just the same technology.
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 1 day, 19 hours ago
Matial, you are severly misinformed in your first comment, it is simply wrong. As is you second caomment, a Tesla with the bigger battery is capable of over 300 miles, and adding a 200 mile charge at a fast charger would take about half an hour. Remember you wake every morning to a full tank so to speak.
Also there is a government grant, that allows you to fit a dedicated charge point at you home. My Leaf will fully charge from that in about 4 hours.
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So does this mean they put a charge point in your garage/drive etc.
I was actually looking at going electric this time round but opted for Petrol in the end. I think I will wait another 3 years and get the Tesla Model 3. Still not sure how I would charge overnight as I live in a tenement flat on a main road in Edinburgh, however if they give me a dedicated parking spot for charging then I am all in haha!
Republik of Mancunia
So does this mean they put a charge point in your garage/drive etc.
If you have a place for a dedicated charge point, you can get one fitted free of charge. I have a house with a drive, and had mine fitted on the side.
If you live in a flat I'm not sure if you would have a place to put it? you can get one with a key that you can turn on and off, so you are the only one who can access it.
Having said all that, looking into it now, I can't seem to find anything, so maybe the grant is no longer available
It would seem there is still a grant, but it doesn't cover the whole cost
https://pod-point.com/products/homecharge?utm_campaign=1530801307&utm_source=Adwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=290802343866&utm_term=free%20electric%20car%20charging%20points&adgroupid=56941833525&gclid=CjwKCAjwy7vlBRACEiwAZvdx9pm0pd1AZ9gV43u6ezkLJWuiVRSeQYqSSqF_KHN6kHQgJsHTbmihCRoCNRUQAvD_BwE
Podpoint is what I have.
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 2 minutes ago
It would seem there is still a grant, but it doesn't cover the whole cost
https://pod-point.com/products/homecharge?utm_campaign=1530801307&utm_source=Adwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=290802343866&utm_term=free%20electric%20car%20charging%20points&adgroupid=56941833525&gclid=CjwKCAjwy7vlBRACEiwAZvdx9pm0pd1AZ9gV43u6ezkLJWuiVRSeQYqSSqF_KHN6kHQgJsHTbmihCRoCNRUQAvD_BwE
Podpoint is what I have.
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Yeah I fail at the grant as I don't have dedicated off street parking, its a complete free for all where I live in Edinburgh as I live in a tenement flat on the third floor - I'd need a 30 metre charging cable from the front room haha.
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Orange, so you think phones are built to last?
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no of course not .... where have I even alluded to that? if anything i was backing this up with my light bulb example??
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posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
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clearly you dont live in or have lived in scheme bud, they will be pulled out by the wee $hits during the night knowing that it will affect peoples days. Hell i have even seen it happen in town in Glasgow in front of people !!
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You can't stop every caant. People could slash your tires if they wanted, is that any different?
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completely different ie you wouldnt need to carry a knife to do so... oh and its illegal to slash a tyre it aint illegal to pull out a charging cable...are you saying you can see cables running out to every car in housing schemes as being viable?!
Orange fair enough my bad.
As for the cables, I have already pointed out they lock into place, so you cant just unplug them. so any damage caused would certainly be illegal.
Think I’m gunna go electric when I have the money and permanent abode with a driveway
Kunta Kante
Think I’m gunna go electric when I have the money and permanent abode with a driveway
Everybody will be going electric, and sooner than they think, they just don't realise it yet.
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Orange fair enough my bad.
As for the cables, I have already pointed out they lock into place, so you cant just unplug them. so any damage caused would certainly be illegal.
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Ahhh right them locking is defo better... Do the ones on public places not lock then? Like I said I have seen idiots in town pull them out of cars that were charging in public?
I still think they will need a different method to charge them however.. 52% of people in Europe live In flats and this is likely to increase as space continues to run out..
I assume there is an external socket on your house to connect to amiga?
We will be mostly driving electric cars in 10 years I agree but in order for that to happen they defo need to change some things
Orange, EV's are still in their infancy. ICE cars have had over 100 years to become what we know today. I still remember having to use a choke, and there have been a myriad of other improvement, not least reliability.
EV's are not perfect, but the focus is now around solving those issues. There is battery tech being developed that will charge in just 5 mins, new battery chemistry being looked into based around things like Sodium, which would be orders of magnitude cheaper than today's tech.
I could go on and on, but we are on the verge of a major shift in transportation, in the next two years there will be a tsunami of new EV's to choose from, and once people understand the advantages electric has over ICE cars, there will be no turning back the clock.
I predict by 2025, EV's will be taking over our roads.
I do have a dedicated charger, outside on my wall, a government grant paid for it.
Oh as for locking, I presume it depends on the cable and if you have set the car up to keep it locked.
My cable locks into both the charger and car, if I want them to (you don't have to lock them)
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 14 minutes ago
I do have a dedicated charger, outside on my wall, a government grant paid for it.
Oh as for locking, I presume it depends on the cable and if you have set the car up to keep it locked.
My cable locks into both the charger and car, if I want them to (you don't have to lock them)
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Just curious is all amiga.. I ain't arguing for arguing sakes. Just talking about some of the things they need to either fix or improve before it's ready to take over.. . I bought a new car about a year and half ago and seriously looked into it, my mate also got a leaf which I told you about before.
I will miss the petrol engine however, I love driving and have also done some racing before and gears can make a car really fun to drive and using gear changes to manipulate the behaviour of the car I will really miss!! The sound of a revving engine, dropping a gear and giving it the beans is so satisfying not just the speed, but the feel of the car as it shiffs its weight the sound of the engine etc..
Got a focus st and even just the ebrake annoyed me!! . Always prefer the lever brake, my Mrs just does not trust it 😂.
EV cars can make ICE cars seem dumb and unevolved but that is what I like! They are different entities to be fair.
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posted on 11/4/19
orange sherbet
can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
Bloody hell Sherbet, your a bundle of joy, Cables actually lock themselves into place, so cannot be removed or stolen. tampered or damaged, possibly, but you could say that about anything, including the car.
As for something different, there are already experiments using inductive charging (same way phone charges without cable), built into roads. it is already a thing. although not common yet.
posted on 11/4/19
Ok admittedly this is for a hybrid car, but it shows you don't require a cable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrcPrzuPMM
posted on 11/4/19
I think the sound and safety of pedestrians was a fear often postulated. Anecdotally, for me, I don’t see much difference. In urban areas where cars go at 20-30mph at most where pedestrians cross a) new models don’t make *that* much engine sound and b) electric cars still make sound of tyres on the road, air movement..enough for you to notice and perceive it coming. It’s not a completely silent nightrider
posted on 11/4/19
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 49 seconds ago
Ok admittedly this is for a hybrid car, but it shows you don't require a cable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrcPrzuPMM
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in the real world and in mass it wont work, what they show there is even more impractical as it looks like you need a driveway and this needs to be installed into it, at least they acknowledge they need to come up with something different from cables however, more people live in flats than houses. Once they sort out this it will truly turn the masses heads. They will also be developing something that can charge whilst driving... using energy generated by the car as it moves or stops. Such as braking and the wheels turning etc and use this to charge as you drive.
posted on 11/4/19
for point a) I meant that new models of conventional cars don’t make that much sound, unles they’re revving obvs
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
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clearly you dont live in or have lived in scheme bud, they will be pulled out by the wee $hits during the night knowing that it will affect peoples days. Hell i have even seen it happen in town in Glasgow in front of people !!
posted on 11/4/19
Drunken Hobo
I think people are suspicious of batteries' lifespan because they last a couple of years in Samsung and Apple devices. But that's deliberate - planned obsolescence on the manufacturer's part to make you buy another phone when that one breaks.
Again good input Phones are built to fail to keep you buying new ones.
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 24 seconds ago
Drunken Hobo
I think people are suspicious of batteries' lifespan because they last a couple of years in Samsung and Apple devices. But that's deliberate - planned obsolescence on the manufacturer's part to make you buy another phone when that one breaks.
Again good inputPhones are built to fail to keep you buying new ones.
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this reminds me of school, in physics the teacher telling us how easy it would be to make light bulbs last a lifetime (this was filament light bulbs) and it would only cost about a penny extra to make them last well over 10 years each just by using a thicker filament
posted on 11/4/19
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
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clearly you dont live in or have lived in scheme bud, they will be pulled out by the wee $hits during the night knowing that it will affect peoples days. Hell i have even seen it happen in town in Glasgow in front of people !!
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You can't stop every caant. People could slash your tires if they wanted, is that any different?
posted on 11/4/19
Orange, so you think phones are built to last?
posted on 11/4/19
Orange I wasn't posting the BMW inductive charging as THE solution. Just showing you don't necessarily need a cable.
I could post stuff incorporated into parking spaces, but it is just the same technology.
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 1 day, 19 hours ago
Matial, you are severly misinformed in your first comment, it is simply wrong. As is you second caomment, a Tesla with the bigger battery is capable of over 300 miles, and adding a 200 mile charge at a fast charger would take about half an hour. Remember you wake every morning to a full tank so to speak.
Also there is a government grant, that allows you to fit a dedicated charge point at you home. My Leaf will fully charge from that in about 4 hours.
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So does this mean they put a charge point in your garage/drive etc.
I was actually looking at going electric this time round but opted for Petrol in the end. I think I will wait another 3 years and get the Tesla Model 3. Still not sure how I would charge overnight as I live in a tenement flat on a main road in Edinburgh, however if they give me a dedicated parking spot for charging then I am all in haha!
posted on 11/4/19
Republik of Mancunia
So does this mean they put a charge point in your garage/drive etc.
If you have a place for a dedicated charge point, you can get one fitted free of charge. I have a house with a drive, and had mine fitted on the side.
If you live in a flat I'm not sure if you would have a place to put it? you can get one with a key that you can turn on and off, so you are the only one who can access it.
Having said all that, looking into it now, I can't seem to find anything, so maybe the grant is no longer available
posted on 11/4/19
It would seem there is still a grant, but it doesn't cover the whole cost
https://pod-point.com/products/homecharge?utm_campaign=1530801307&utm_source=Adwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=290802343866&utm_term=free%20electric%20car%20charging%20points&adgroupid=56941833525&gclid=CjwKCAjwy7vlBRACEiwAZvdx9pm0pd1AZ9gV43u6ezkLJWuiVRSeQYqSSqF_KHN6kHQgJsHTbmihCRoCNRUQAvD_BwE
Podpoint is what I have.
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 2 minutes ago
It would seem there is still a grant, but it doesn't cover the whole cost
https://pod-point.com/products/homecharge?utm_campaign=1530801307&utm_source=Adwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=290802343866&utm_term=free%20electric%20car%20charging%20points&adgroupid=56941833525&gclid=CjwKCAjwy7vlBRACEiwAZvdx9pm0pd1AZ9gV43u6ezkLJWuiVRSeQYqSSqF_KHN6kHQgJsHTbmihCRoCNRUQAvD_BwE
Podpoint is what I have.
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Yeah I fail at the grant as I don't have dedicated off street parking, its a complete free for all where I live in Edinburgh as I live in a tenement flat on the third floor - I'd need a 30 metre charging cable from the front room haha.
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Orange, so you think phones are built to last?
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no of course not .... where have I even alluded to that? if anything i was backing this up with my light bulb example??
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Lucas Torreira (U8691)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 19 minutes ago
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can just imagine all the schemes up and down the UK... with the cables going into the car not being tampered with/removed/stolen/damaged overnight !!! they will need to come up with something different other than a cable IMO
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Honestly it's a bit of a naff argument. I bet if windscreen wipers were invented today people would be saying "You're going to have a flimsy bit of metal just sticking out your car that can be easily bent and torn off? Hoodlums will destroy them all within days!"
Inductive charging is interesting but still bloody inefficient. Which isn't great when the entire point of electric cars is to be more efficient.
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clearly you dont live in or have lived in scheme bud, they will be pulled out by the wee $hits during the night knowing that it will affect peoples days. Hell i have even seen it happen in town in Glasgow in front of people !!
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You can't stop every caant. People could slash your tires if they wanted, is that any different?
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completely different ie you wouldnt need to carry a knife to do so... oh and its illegal to slash a tyre it aint illegal to pull out a charging cable...are you saying you can see cables running out to every car in housing schemes as being viable?!
posted on 11/4/19
Orange fair enough my bad.
As for the cables, I have already pointed out they lock into place, so you cant just unplug them. so any damage caused would certainly be illegal.
posted on 11/4/19
Think I’m gunna go electric when I have the money and permanent abode with a driveway
posted on 11/4/19
Kunta Kante
Think I’m gunna go electric when I have the money and permanent abode with a driveway
Everybody will be going electric, and sooner than they think, they just don't realise it yet.
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Orange fair enough my bad.
As for the cables, I have already pointed out they lock into place, so you cant just unplug them. so any damage caused would certainly be illegal.
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Ahhh right them locking is defo better... Do the ones on public places not lock then? Like I said I have seen idiots in town pull them out of cars that were charging in public?
I still think they will need a different method to charge them however.. 52% of people in Europe live In flats and this is likely to increase as space continues to run out..
I assume there is an external socket on your house to connect to amiga?
We will be mostly driving electric cars in 10 years I agree but in order for that to happen they defo need to change some things
posted on 11/4/19
Orange, EV's are still in their infancy. ICE cars have had over 100 years to become what we know today. I still remember having to use a choke, and there have been a myriad of other improvement, not least reliability.
EV's are not perfect, but the focus is now around solving those issues. There is battery tech being developed that will charge in just 5 mins, new battery chemistry being looked into based around things like Sodium, which would be orders of magnitude cheaper than today's tech.
I could go on and on, but we are on the verge of a major shift in transportation, in the next two years there will be a tsunami of new EV's to choose from, and once people understand the advantages electric has over ICE cars, there will be no turning back the clock.
I predict by 2025, EV's will be taking over our roads.
posted on 11/4/19
I do have a dedicated charger, outside on my wall, a government grant paid for it.
Oh as for locking, I presume it depends on the cable and if you have set the car up to keep it locked.
My cable locks into both the charger and car, if I want them to (you don't have to lock them)
posted on 11/4/19
comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 14 minutes ago
I do have a dedicated charger, outside on my wall, a government grant paid for it.
Oh as for locking, I presume it depends on the cable and if you have set the car up to keep it locked.
My cable locks into both the charger and car, if I want them to (you don't have to lock them)
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Just curious is all amiga.. I ain't arguing for arguing sakes. Just talking about some of the things they need to either fix or improve before it's ready to take over.. . I bought a new car about a year and half ago and seriously looked into it, my mate also got a leaf which I told you about before.
I will miss the petrol engine however, I love driving and have also done some racing before and gears can make a car really fun to drive and using gear changes to manipulate the behaviour of the car I will really miss!! The sound of a revving engine, dropping a gear and giving it the beans is so satisfying not just the speed, but the feel of the car as it shiffs its weight the sound of the engine etc..
Got a focus st and even just the ebrake annoyed me!! . Always prefer the lever brake, my Mrs just does not trust it 😂.
EV cars can make ICE cars seem dumb and unevolved but that is what I like! They are different entities to be fair.
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