This article is all over the place!
A high pressing system requires pressing as a team from the entire team (minus the GK) and they should know exactly what their roles are and when to press. Klopp and Pep play this system, but as said, it requires everyone know what to do and when. And that requires a lot of time to get that settled in and oiled. Pep and Klopp have been doing this for years and their teams are basically 3-4 years together.
If Ole starts to implement this now, then you can write of coming season and build towards results in the next season.
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 9 seconds ago
Write it off, why?
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Write if off as in not winning trophies. Even Pep failed in his first season at City implementing his high pressing system.
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
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Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
I was really hoping we would follow up on Ole's comments when he said we would be 'ruthless' when it came to players leaving the club.
We haven't. We should have got rid of Rojo and Darmian for example even for cut price fees.
There is only so much Ole can do in one window, especially when you are getting quoted £80m for Maguire and have no lure of CL football.
I’m sure he would love to get rid of Sanchez, but no one will touch him with a barge pole considering his wage. Real Madrid can’t get rid of Bale for similar reasons
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 18 seconds ago
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
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Did you read anything of what I said? If Ole starts with a high pressing game now, which requires a lot of discipline and everyone knowing what to do and when and great fitness, then you might not get the results you want in the first season of it being implemented.
comment by RedDevil7 - AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT (U5029)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
--
Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
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I think fans would hope that would be the case but United are as dysfunctional as they come at the moment.
Could quite easily see a situation in which he was missed out entirely and Ed signed it off because of their "value" on a spreadsheet.
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 18 seconds ago
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
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Did you read anything of what I said? If Ole starts with a high pressing game now, which requires a lot of discipline and everyone knowing what to do and when and great fitness, then you might not get the results you want in the first season of it being implemented.
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Yes I read it I just don't agree with it. I think even with looking at a new style of play, there is still reason to believe that achieving top 4 and possibly doing something in a domestic cup or the Europa is not beyond the realms of possibility.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
I was really hoping we would follow up on Ole's comments when he said we would be 'ruthless' when it came to players leaving the club.
We haven't. We should have got rid of Rojo and Darmian for example even for cut price fees.
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Toothless rather than ruthless
comment by RedDevil7 - AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT (U5029)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
--
Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
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3 players from the Fergie era with title winning experience. They are not the best footballers anymore, but I would imagine that they are model pros, know what it means to be a United player and are 100% committed, therefore Ole can count on them - contrast to Sanchez and Martial
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 18 seconds ago
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
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Did you read anything of what I said? If Ole starts with a high pressing game now, which requires a lot of discipline and everyone knowing what to do and when and great fitness, then you might not get the results you want in the first season of it being implemented.
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Yes I read it I just don't agree with it. I think even with looking at a new style of play, there is still reason to believe that achieving top 4 and possibly doing something in a domestic cup or the Europa is not beyond the realms of possibility.
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Fair enough, you will found out soon enough.
Just don't know if your back line is good enough for high press football. You'll leak a lot of goals if they aren't. And oppo teams will exploit that weakness, especially the top 5 teams (you don't play yourselves) which makes a top 4 finish a hard task again.
3 players from the Fergie era with title winning experience. They are not the best footballers anymore, but I would imagine that they are model pros, know what it means to be a United player and are 100% committed, therefore Ole can count on them - contrast to Sanchez and Martial
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Not having any of that, they wouldn't get into any top 6 side, maybe not even top 8/10
Smalling would get in plenty sides in the top 10
All 3 of them were parts in our side that finished 2nd 2 years ago.
They're not good enough, but fackinell people go overboard.
People put too much stock in what a manager says.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 16 minutes ago
Smalling would get in plenty sides in the top 10
All 3 of them were parts in our side that finished 2nd 2 years ago.
They're not good enough, but fackinell people go overboard.
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Look at the defenders getting picked to play for England, and look at the clubs they play for...
Look at the defenders getting picked to play for England, and look at the clubs they play for...
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Smalling is better than the majority of defenders that play for England. Southgate just doesn't fancy him.
comment by RedDevil7 - AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT (U5029)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
--
Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
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He has also requested CB. You can increase contracts and still ship the player.
Southgate just doesn't fancy him.
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Very good reasons for this.
Maguire scoring a trademark slabheader yesterday in pre-season, De Ligt putting Juve 1-0 down with a debut own goal against Inter an hour ago.
Get the deal done Ed.
Maguire > De Ligt
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posted on 24/7/19
This article is all over the place!
posted on 24/7/19
A high pressing system requires pressing as a team from the entire team (minus the GK) and they should know exactly what their roles are and when to press. Klopp and Pep play this system, but as said, it requires everyone know what to do and when. And that requires a lot of time to get that settled in and oiled. Pep and Klopp have been doing this for years and their teams are basically 3-4 years together.
If Ole starts to implement this now, then you can write of coming season and build towards results in the next season.
posted on 24/7/19
*off
posted on 24/7/19
Write it off, why?
posted on 24/7/19
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
posted on 24/7/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 9 seconds ago
Write it off, why?
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Write if off as in not winning trophies. Even Pep failed in his first season at City implementing his high pressing system.
posted on 24/7/19
*write it off
posted on 24/7/19
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
posted on 24/7/19
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
--
Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
posted on 24/7/19
I was really hoping we would follow up on Ole's comments when he said we would be 'ruthless' when it came to players leaving the club.
We haven't. We should have got rid of Rojo and Darmian for example even for cut price fees.
posted on 24/7/19
There is only so much Ole can do in one window, especially when you are getting quoted £80m for Maguire and have no lure of CL football.
I’m sure he would love to get rid of Sanchez, but no one will touch him with a barge pole considering his wage. Real Madrid can’t get rid of Bale for similar reasons
posted on 24/7/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 18 seconds ago
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you read anything of what I said? If Ole starts with a high pressing game now, which requires a lot of discipline and everyone knowing what to do and when and great fitness, then you might not get the results you want in the first season of it being implemented.
posted on 24/7/19
comment by RedDevil7 - AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT (U5029)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
--
Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think fans would hope that would be the case but United are as dysfunctional as they come at the moment.
Could quite easily see a situation in which he was missed out entirely and Ed signed it off because of their "value" on a spreadsheet.
posted on 24/7/19
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 18 seconds ago
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you read anything of what I said? If Ole starts with a high pressing game now, which requires a lot of discipline and everyone knowing what to do and when and great fitness, then you might not get the results you want in the first season of it being implemented.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I read it I just don't agree with it. I think even with looking at a new style of play, there is still reason to believe that achieving top 4 and possibly doing something in a domestic cup or the Europa is not beyond the realms of possibility.
posted on 24/7/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
I was really hoping we would follow up on Ole's comments when he said we would be 'ruthless' when it came to players leaving the club.
We haven't. We should have got rid of Rojo and Darmian for example even for cut price fees.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Toothless rather than ruthless
posted on 24/7/19
comment by RedDevil7 - AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT (U5029)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
--
Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
3 players from the Fergie era with title winning experience. They are not the best footballers anymore, but I would imagine that they are model pros, know what it means to be a United player and are 100% committed, therefore Ole can count on them - contrast to Sanchez and Martial
posted on 24/7/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 18 seconds ago
We're not expecting a title race anyway, and there's no reason to write off the domestic cups or a top 4 place, or the Europa.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you read anything of what I said? If Ole starts with a high pressing game now, which requires a lot of discipline and everyone knowing what to do and when and great fitness, then you might not get the results you want in the first season of it being implemented.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I read it I just don't agree with it. I think even with looking at a new style of play, there is still reason to believe that achieving top 4 and possibly doing something in a domestic cup or the Europa is not beyond the realms of possibility.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair enough, you will found out soon enough.
Just don't know if your back line is good enough for high press football. You'll leak a lot of goals if they aren't. And oppo teams will exploit that weakness, especially the top 5 teams (you don't play yourselves) which makes a top 4 finish a hard task again.
posted on 24/7/19
3 players from the Fergie era with title winning experience. They are not the best footballers anymore, but I would imagine that they are model pros, know what it means to be a United player and are 100% committed, therefore Ole can count on them - contrast to Sanchez and Martial
--
Not having any of that, they wouldn't get into any top 6 side, maybe not even top 8/10
posted on 24/7/19
Smalling would get in plenty sides in the top 10
All 3 of them were parts in our side that finished 2nd 2 years ago.
They're not good enough, but fackinell people go overboard.
posted on 24/7/19
People put too much stock in what a manager says.
posted on 24/7/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 16 minutes ago
Smalling would get in plenty sides in the top 10
All 3 of them were parts in our side that finished 2nd 2 years ago.
They're not good enough, but fackinell people go overboard.
--
Look at the defenders getting picked to play for England, and look at the clubs they play for...
posted on 24/7/19
Look at the defenders getting picked to play for England, and look at the clubs they play for...
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Smalling is better than the majority of defenders that play for England. Southgate just doesn't fancy him.
posted on 24/7/19
comment by RedDevil7 - AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT (U5029)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
No sensible fan will be on his back. It is the managers job to identify players, it is not his job to close the deal.
Again, Ed ' clueless' Woodward is messing around with another manager. He is incompetent at transfers and needs to go.
--
Surely the manager "okay'd" the contracts being given to Young, Smalling, Jones though, I just don't get that at all!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has also requested CB. You can increase contracts and still ship the player.
posted on 24/7/19
Southgate just doesn't fancy him.
--
Very good reasons for this.
posted on 24/7/19
Maguire scoring a trademark slabheader yesterday in pre-season, De Ligt putting Juve 1-0 down with a debut own goal against Inter an hour ago.
Get the deal done Ed.
Maguire > De Ligt
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