I actually know a few people that were there and they said they were genuinely worried that something bad was going to happen if no action was taken. Its pretty bad then that its been spun as some sort of vandalisim/ attempt to break in.

Cant really forgive the idiots who jumped on the disabled area roof. Although again it turns out Kilmarnock had already been warned about this and told it wasn't safe.

I think there are a few things to consider

1. Preparation for away fans turning up in numbers late. It’s no shock in Scotland fans going away drink until the last possible minute - Kilmarnock stewards to blame and learn from as it’s the genuine paying fans that potentially get hurt

2. Fans tried copying QR codes to duplicate tickets meaning extra numbers turning up - Fans to blame risking genuine paying fans lives

3. Fans climbing on disabled shelter - fans to blame for idiotic climbing but also Kilmarnock to blame as they knew they should reconsider shape of shelter to prevent reoccurrence

4. Pitch invasion - fans to blame but also stewards. It’s well known Rangers fans donit after late winners. Not really a criticism as it’s become expected so if I know it would happen why are stewards not prepared?

Thats a completely one-sided statement and another example of Rangers and their supporters refusing to accept liability for anything.

Its all fine and well blaming kilmarnock for the ticketing system but kilmarnock didnt cause the pitch invasion. As for the disabled section not being safe....you'd need to be a complete moron to think it would be safe to dance on top of it.

Its not all about big bad folk being out to get you.

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You shouldn't treat fans as grown ups. They should be watched at all times. Stewarding is clearly a problem at Killie , was that not the same spot that Celtic fans spilled onto the pitch when Broony scored a late winner last season?

First sentence 'trapped outside'.

That's Dylanesque & Beat Poet stuff.

‘Although again it turns out Kilmarnock had already been warned about this and told it wasn't safe.’

Don’t think it was designed for folk to jump on top of, if we’re being fair. It’s a roof-not a floor.

‘I actually know a few people that were there and they said they were genuinely worried that something bad was going to happen if no action was taken. Its pretty bad then that its been spun as some sort of vandalisim/ attempt to break in.’

The statement said that fans were ‘trapped outside’. How can you be trapped outside?! I don’t think Killie are blameless, but if there’s a queue, you don’t just start pushing the folk in front of you.

comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 22 minutes ago
You shouldn't treat fans as grown ups. They should be watched at all times. Stewarding is clearly a problem at Killie , was that not the same spot that Celtic fans spilled onto the pitch when Broony scored a late winner last season?

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The players all ran towards the fans. This is why the yellow card offence was brought in. Don’t think Goldson was booked for it?!

Policing and stewarding is inadequate in every stadium when a crowd of fans surge towards the pitch.

Schiz

The Broonie Incursion was a brave but failed attempt to challenge for

The Invasion Trophy which Rangers are the ongoing champions of.

Had a beer with walking mates this evening after a cracking day.

Bear fella says he is just sick of it.

Like me goes to more Away than Home cos of the outdoor stuff.

He just wants to support his team.

But hears Up To His Knees Pea Dough etc for most of the game.

Same with me all about the War that the Good Friday Agreement ended.

The one that Johnson is about to reignite.

Fvk them all.

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comment by The Mighty Quinn (U4099)
posted 29 minutes ago

Had a beer with walking mates this evening after a cracking day.

Bear fella says he is just sick of it.

Like me goes to more Away than Home cos of the outdoor stuff.

He just wants to support his team.

But hears Up To His Knees Pea Dough etc for most of the game.

Same with me all about the War that the Good Friday Agreement ended.

The one that Johnson is about to reignite.

Fvk them all.


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Firstly..delighted that we have a trophy

Secondly, totally agree, when visiting Scotland I have the opportunity to go to a few matches, but choose not too as I don't want to sit and listen to the pre historic scheidt that comes from some "fans". Therefore I support my team in other ways.


Thirdly, Subs..agree with all that you said...except the last sentence. Poor Ginger Rees Mogg...c'mon, give the guy a break

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 22 minutes ago
You shouldn't treat fans as grown ups. They should be watched at all times. Stewarding is clearly a problem at Killie , was that not the same spot that Celtic fans spilled onto the pitch when Broony scored a late winner last season?

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The players all ran towards the fans. This is why the yellow card offence was brought in. Don’t think Goldson was booked for it?!

Policing and stewarding is inadequate in every stadium when a crowd of fans surge towards the pitch.
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Willie Collum was the ref...don't expect consistency

Curious though, where do you log on to find info such as this statement? Don't get me wrong, if it wasn't for you and a few other bhoys, I would be completely in the dark ...just curious is all

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He might be

Thank goodness that's cleared up then

comment by Aye, OK, its Subs - what's the fvkkin poi... (U5683)
posted 14 minutes ago
A sense of perspective is required here...

It sounds like there were some genuine safety concerns outside the ground. Wouldn't be the first time fans were given the blame by the gutter press. The statement goes some way to address that.

Where it falls down badly is not reflecting the fact that several - from what I saw maybe about 20 or so? Fans lost it when Rangers scored. The 4 or 5 on the roof need dealt with, as we could have been talking about dead disabled Rangers fans here. Kilmarnock bear responsibility for the roof design and ineffective measures to control such behaviour. It is not unreasonable to expect that sort of behaviour in rare circumstances. More should have been done.

So a minority of a-holes let the larger support down again. It happens to us all. The statement does disservice to those at risk outside the the stadium by undermining it's own position in ignoring the behaviour of some Rangers fans which should be roundly condemned. Personally I'd be disappointed and dismayed if this were someone purporting to advocate on my behalf. Objectivity should be maintained if you want folks to take you seriously, and this matter should be taken seriously, as all safety concerns should.

Finally, Quinny is quite correct - all tories are cvnts.
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Subs.

Yir awright for a tim.

‘Curious though, where do you log on to find info such as this statement?’

Kerrydale street-the Celtic forum.

I doubt it’s difficult to find-Club 1872 tweeted it. It wouldn’t take long after that to be very accessible.

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comment by Aye, OK, its Subs - what's the fvkkin point!? (U5683)
posted 1 minute ago
And finally I don't give a flying fvck if you agree with my final statement or not. Even if I did value your opinion it's not up for debate anyway. It's just a question of whether one chooses to ignore the fact or not, be it directly or by some other self deceptive subterfuge. I don't. All tories are cvnts.
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Fence sitter

Opening the gate was the right thing to do. Small scale but saying to stand nicely is just daft - and wouldn’t be dished out for any disaster/accident. Same way at any gig the bouncers/stewards pull people getting crushed at the front out. Killie’s stewards were lucky the Rangers fans opened the gate.

The pitch invasion is pathetic, but as mentioned Celtic did the same there recently. The three idiots jumping on top of the disabled roof should be banned, just idiocy but idiocy that could’ve seriously injured fokbso should be punished. But that’s what it was 3 dafties, so with the furore it’s no surprise they make this statement.

Seen Stewart having a go about singing but when you get banners where it’s ok by some Celtic fans then it’s only going to continue.

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 6 minutes ago
‘Curious though, where do you log on to find info such as this statement?’

Kerrydale street-the Celtic forum.

I doubt it’s difficult to find-Club 1872 tweeted it. It wouldn’t take long after that to be very accessible.
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Ahh, that would involve me being on and understanding twitter

This forum is as social as my media gets

"Fans lost it when Rangers scored. The 4 or 5 on the roof need dealt with, as we could have been talking about dead disabled Rangers fans here"
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Celtic fans have done the same.

The most important issue here - Safety.
I think Killie have to take their fair share of the blame for not having some sort of barrier in place.

Morons in the support give the clubs a bad name.

Safety at the match should be paramount.