Operation Northwoods
"A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces."
"A 'Remember the Maine' incident could be arranged in several forms: a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba..."
"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities, and even in Washington."
"The terror campaign could be pointed at refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute to Florida (real or simulated)..."
"Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions..."
Submitted in 1962 and not revealed until 1997, I believe?
How many people new about these plans and how many people would have been involved in these attacks?
Ruling out a conspiracy on the basis that it would have involved a lot of people is just not credible at all.
The idea of false flags has always been intriguing in terms of how it could whip up support from the population to develop a desired us v them mentality and justify say going to war for profit.
God knows what the hell goes on at the very upper level of governmemt, I'm sure there's plenty kept from us that would absolutely blow our minds if we found out.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 5 seconds ago
The idea of false flags has always been intriguing in terms of how it could whip up support from the population to develop a desired us v them mentality and justify say going to war for profit.
God knows what the hell goes on at the very upper level of governmemt, I'm sure there's plenty kept from us that would absolutely blow our minds if we found out.
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Absolutely agree.
And I also wonder how much goes on with the cabinet knowing about it.
So much of the world is run by private businesses and individuals - they often wield far greater power than governments.
"There were 19 hijackers in all."
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Based on...? What you've been told.
.................
Better than basing it on something plucked from someones ar$e.
I would very much imagine the intelligence services would have a better idea than a numbnut on an internet forum called Winston.
Were they 100% accurate. We may never know.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
If numbers of people involved is the criteria for information being leaked, what happened with the 2007 housing market crash and why didn't anyone speak out about the shocking dishonesty prevalent amongst the credit reference agencies?
A flimsy argument against a conspiracy indeed.
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Every modern cash-based economy has seen an "economic correction" in one form or another roughly every decade or so for at least 400 years. Some obviously more painful than others.
The fine inter-linkage of modern day global trade has ensured that these cycles have become pretty much synchronised across nations.
Anyone with a calendar would know that we're currently overdue for a correction, but human nature makes us bury our heads in the sand. We'd rather tell ourselves that "it's going to be different this time, isn't it?"
All the signs are there. No conspiracies necessary.
To be fair there is a litany if examples where operatives didn't fully understand who they were working for throughout history. That's what agent provocateurs are.
.....................
I think these US Government operatives might have been slightly suspicious of their Government when they flew the planes into their targets.
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
If numbers of people involved is the criteria for information being leaked, what happened with the 2007 housing market crash and why didn't anyone speak out about the shocking dishonesty prevalent amongst the credit reference agencies?
A flimsy argument against a conspiracy indeed.
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Every modern cash-based economy has seen an "economic correction" in one form or another roughly every decade or so for at least 400 years. Some obviously more painful than others.
The fine inter-linkage of modern day global trade has ensured that these cycles have become pretty much synchronised across nations.
Anyone with a calendar would know that we're currently overdue for a correction, but human nature makes us bury our heads in the sand. We'd rather tell ourselves that "it's going to be different this time, isn't it?"
All the signs are there. No conspiracies necessary.
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You're right in what you say but I'm not saying the crash was a conspiracy - I'm saying the actions of the credit agencies was.
And many people will have known about it.
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 18 minutes ago
There's certainly an argument to be made that the US government allowed the 9/11 attacks to happen.
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I think that negligence came to light very early on.
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Suggesting that they orchestrated the whole thing is a bit far-fetched though, IMO.
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It is, isn't it.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 28 seconds ago
To be fair there is a litany if examples where operatives didn't fully understand who they were working for throughout history. That's what agent provocateurs are.
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I think these US Government operatives might have been slightly suspicious of their Government when they flew the planes into their targets.
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The hijackers were jihadists or whatever and did not know they were working on a false flag op. Im saying the people who put it together. It's not a hard concept tbh.
The British did it a fair bit in Ireland I believe.
And Im talking early 1900's there.
The hijackers were jihadists or whatever and did not know they were working on a false flag op.
................
So, you think they were not doing this for their belief but were duped by the US Government.
Fair enough.
Don't see it myself.
What happened with WTC7 was shady as anything. That is very very fishy
(1) Mukden or Manchurian Incident - Japanese troops set off an explosion on a train track (1931), and blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria.
(2) Attacks on Germans – done by the Naz!s, but blamed on the Poles to justify the invasion of Poland.
(3) Violence on the Greek-Albanian border - carried out by Italian fascists and blamed on the Greeks, as an excuse for Italy’s 1940 invasion of Greece.
(4) Reichstag fire (1933) – blamed on Communists, carried out by Naz!s.
(5) Shell attack on the Russian village Mainila (1939) - blamed on Finland, carried out by the Red Army; as a justification for the “Winter War” against Finland.
(6) Execution of 22,000 Polish army officers (1940) - blamed on the Naz!s, but carried out by the Soviet secret police on orders by Stalin.
(7) Bombing of 5 ships carrying Jews to Palestine (1946 to 1948) – carried out by the British government, but blamed on the invented fake terrorist group “Defenders of Arab Palestine”.
(8) Bombs on several buildings in Egypt (1954) – carried out by Israelis implicating Arabs by leaving behind “evidence”.
(9) Bombings in Iran (1950s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by Iranians hired by CIA.
(10) Bombing Turkish consulate in Greece (1955) - blamed on Greece, but carried out by Turks.
(11) Attacks in Syria (1957) – planned and approved by British PM and US President Eisenhower, blamed on Syrian government.
(12) Bombings in Italy and other European countries (1950s-1980s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by NATO, Pentagon and CIA. Some examples:
Murder of Turkish Prime Minister (1960); Bombings in Portugal (1966); Piazza Fontana massacre in Italy (1969); Terror attacks in Turkey (1971); Peteano bombing in Italy (1972); Shootings in Brescia, Italy and bombing of an Italian train (1974); Shootings in Istanbul, Turkey (1977); Atocha massacre in Madrid, Spain (1977); Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978); Bombing railway station in Bologna, Italy (1980); Shooting and killing of 28 shoppers in Brabant county, Belgium (1985).
(18) FBI used provocateurs from the 1950s to 1970s to carry out violent acts - part of Cointelpro, blamed on (targeted) political activists.
(19) Burned down mosque on Cyprus (1970s) – carried out by Turkish forces and blamed on Greece.
(21) Bomb in outer wall of a German prison (1978) – carried out by the German government, a prisoner of the Red Army Faction was framed.
(22) Radio transmitter in Gaddafi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya broadcasting terrorist transmissions (1984) – carried out by Mossad, Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
(1) Mukden or Manchurian Incident - Japanese troops set off an explosion on a train track (1931), and blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria.
(2) Attacks on Germans – done by the Naz!s, but blamed on the Poles to justify the invasion of Poland.
(3) Violence on the Greek-Albanian border - carried out by Italian fascists and blamed on the Greeks, as an excuse for Italy’s 1940 invasion of Greece.
(4) Reichstag fire (1933) – blamed on Communists, carried out by Naz!s.
(5) Shell attack on the Russian village Mainila (1939) - blamed on Finland, carried out by the Red Army; as a justification for the “Winter War” against Finland.
(6) Execution of 22,000 Polish army officers (1940) - blamed on the Naz!s, but carried out by the Soviet secret police on orders by Stalin.
(7) Bombing of 5 ships carrying Jews to Palestine (1946 to 1948) – carried out by the British government, but blamed on the invented fake terrorist group “Defenders of Arab Palestine”.
(8) Bombs on several buildings in Egypt (1954) – carried out by Israelis implicating Arabs by leaving behind “evidence”.
(9) Bombings in Iran (1950s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by Iranians hired by CIA.
(10) Bombing Turkish consulate in Greece (1955) - blamed on Greece, but carried out by Turks.
(11) Attacks in Syria (1957) – planned and approved by British PM and US President Eisenhower, blamed on Syrian government.
(12) Bombings in Italy and other European countries (1950s-1980s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by NATO, Pentagon and CIA. Some examples:
Murder of Turkish Prime Minister (1960); Bombings in Portugal (1966); Piazza Fontana massacre in Italy (1969); Terror attacks in Turkey (1971); Peteano bombing in Italy (1972); Shootings in Brescia, Italy and bombing of an Italian train (1974); Shootings in Istanbul, Turkey (1977); Atocha massacre in Madrid, Spain (1977); Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978); Bombing railway station in Bologna, Italy (1980); Shooting and killing of 28 shoppers in Brabant county, Belgium (1985).
(18) FBI used provocateurs from the 1950s to 1970s to carry out violent acts - part of Cointelpro, blamed on (targeted) political activists.
(19) Burned down mosque on Cyprus (1970s) – carried out by Turkish forces and blamed on Greece.
(21) Bomb in outer wall of a German prison (1978) – carried out by the German government, a prisoner of the Red Army Faction was framed.
(22) Radio transmitter in Gaddafi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya broadcasting terrorist transmissions (1984) – carried out by Mossad, Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately.
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Frightening.
Should put paid to anyone on here saying the 9/11 conspiracy theory is too far fetched!
Should put paid to anyone on here saying the 9/11 conspiracy theory is too far fetched!
.............
Not in the slightest.
Every one of them is a minor incident that has been apparently rumbled. #2 is a bit iffy when you consider Hitler didn't need an excuse to invade anyone. He just did it.
9/11 is massive on scale compared to any of them and no evidence has yet proved US Government involvement.
I'd say number 12 is a biggy
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 34 minutes ago
(1) Mukden or Manchurian Incident - Japanese troops set off an explosion on a train track (1931), and blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria.
(2) Attacks on Germans – done by the Naz!s, but blamed on the Poles to justify the invasion of Poland.
(3) Violence on the Greek-Albanian border - carried out by Italian fascists and blamed on the Greeks, as an excuse for Italy’s 1940 invasion of Greece.
(4) Reichstag fire (1933) – blamed on Communists, carried out by Naz!s.
(5) Shell attack on the Russian village Mainila (1939) - blamed on Finland, carried out by the Red Army; as a justification for the “Winter War” against Finland.
(6) Execution of 22,000 Polish army officers (1940) - blamed on the Naz!s, but carried out by the Soviet secret police on orders by Stalin.
(7) Bombing of 5 ships carrying Jews to Palestine (1946 to 1948) – carried out by the British government, but blamed on the invented fake terrorist group “Defenders of Arab Palestine”.
(8) Bombs on several buildings in Egypt (1954) – carried out by Israelis implicating Arabs by leaving behind “evidence”.
(9) Bombings in Iran (1950s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by Iranians hired by CIA.
(10) Bombing Turkish consulate in Greece (1955) - blamed on Greece, but carried out by Turks.
(11) Attacks in Syria (1957) – planned and approved by British PM and US President Eisenhower, blamed on Syrian government.
(12) Bombings in Italy and other European countries (1950s-1980s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by NATO, Pentagon and CIA. Some examples:
Murder of Turkish Prime Minister (1960); Bombings in Portugal (1966); Piazza Fontana massacre in Italy (1969); Terror attacks in Turkey (1971); Peteano bombing in Italy (1972); Shootings in Brescia, Italy and bombing of an Italian train (1974); Shootings in Istanbul, Turkey (1977); Atocha massacre in Madrid, Spain (1977); Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978); Bombing railway station in Bologna, Italy (1980); Shooting and killing of 28 shoppers in Brabant county, Belgium (1985).
(18) FBI used provocateurs from the 1950s to 1970s to carry out violent acts - part of Cointelpro, blamed on (targeted) political activists.
(19) Burned down mosque on Cyprus (1970s) – carried out by Turkish forces and blamed on Greece.
(21) Bomb in outer wall of a German prison (1978) – carried out by the German government, a prisoner of the Red Army Faction was framed.
(22) Radio transmitter in Gaddafi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya broadcasting terrorist transmissions (1984) – carried out by Mossad, Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately.
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You can’t trust anyone these days
I'd say number 12 is a biggy
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They are a combination of lots of small incidents.
I just checked on one of them.
Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978)
This was carried out by the Red Brigade. Nothing but conspiracy theories to suggest otherwise.
Hope this is okay, its free of abuse although i appreciate it circumvents your filter OP:
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 24 minutes ago
Yeah Righteous was a good poster and he liked an argument or two. He made good contributions and I was interested in what he had to say.
He was a bit self righteous, no one is perfect but it was brought up all the time and at some point, a number of posters who he'd previously had run ins with would gang up and have a go, even though he was on the right more often than not IMO.
Its the nature of the site. You get into fisticuffs with someone on Monday, another on Tuesday and so on. By Friday, you are in line to be banned as the wave of protest against you has grown.
Its like real life in that respect lol
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comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
Also, could someone go on this thread
http://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewAllComments/411630/8
and post this for me
My two cents on 9/11
I don't know if 9/11 was a false flag.
People who say it was or wasn't as if they're sure are stupid IMO.
If Operation Northwoods (a near carbon copy of 9/11) had actually gone through, we'd now be arguing about it with some being certain it was a false flag and others calling them idiots for believing in a conspiracy theory
I think it was JFK that put a stop to it but what if he hadn't?
People think they're smart. With information and education readily available in this age, people feel that they'd know if a conspiracy was afoot and they're too smart to be duped. Its creates some arrogance and ignorance.
If the joint chiefs of staff can come up with Operation Northwoods, what else have they done over the years? And that's just the joint chiefs of staff alone.
Operation Northwoods was a prototype of 9/11 which would have required the cooperation of very few people and in between the two events there was enough decades to perfect the plan.
Looking at operation Northwoods together with all the suspicions and evidence sorrounding 9/11, how can anyone say for sure it wasn't a false flag?
Points like how many people it would take to do it just prove my point. You are a common man living a normal day to day life. Of course you can't fathom how its possible but it could be possible and you would have no clue.
Another point is compartmentalisation where one department of a project has no idea what the project is for or what the other department is doing. In the end its impossible for participants in the project to join the dots. Projects can be undertaken by hundreds/thousands of people without them ever knowing the end result.
I'm arguing pro conspiracy a bit because most of the anti conspiracy points have been made already but for me, if you're sure it was or wasn't, then you're stupid. You don't know.
IMO.
Thanks in advance.
People who say it was or wasn't as if they're sure are stupid IMO.
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TLDR: The post just kinda repeats that over and over. Boring.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
9/11 is conceivable though, i don't believe it but you can see how it could be achieved.
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No I can not.
It was too big to be kept secret. Far too many people would have had to be in on it.
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The Federal Reserve print money from thin-air and charge it to the US Govt.........with interest added.
Not only is this against The Constitution, virtually every tax dollar the US take goes to paying the interest ALONE to this private institution.
Those who are aware of this fact far outnumber those who may have been involved in 9/11 (for example) so ''secrets'' are obviously not too hard to keep.
Hiding in plain (plane?) sight is easy when faced with a compliant population.
You're getting screwed every single day and can't see it.
If you type Illuminati backwards ie itanimulli, you end up on the NSA website......
The Federal Reserve print money from thin-air and charge it to the US Govt.........with interest added.
Not only is this against The Constitution, virtually every tax dollar the US take goes to paying the interest ALONE to this private institution.
Those who are aware of this fact far outnumber those who may have been involved in 9/11 (for example) so ''secrets'' are obviously not too hard to keep.
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posted on 21/8/19
Operation Northwoods
"A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces."
"A 'Remember the Maine' incident could be arranged in several forms: a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba..."
"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities, and even in Washington."
"The terror campaign could be pointed at refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute to Florida (real or simulated)..."
"Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions..."
Submitted in 1962 and not revealed until 1997, I believe?
How many people new about these plans and how many people would have been involved in these attacks?
Ruling out a conspiracy on the basis that it would have involved a lot of people is just not credible at all.
posted on 21/8/19
The idea of false flags has always been intriguing in terms of how it could whip up support from the population to develop a desired us v them mentality and justify say going to war for profit.
God knows what the hell goes on at the very upper level of governmemt, I'm sure there's plenty kept from us that would absolutely blow our minds if we found out.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 5 seconds ago
The idea of false flags has always been intriguing in terms of how it could whip up support from the population to develop a desired us v them mentality and justify say going to war for profit.
God knows what the hell goes on at the very upper level of governmemt, I'm sure there's plenty kept from us that would absolutely blow our minds if we found out.
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Absolutely agree.
And I also wonder how much goes on with the cabinet knowing about it.
So much of the world is run by private businesses and individuals - they often wield far greater power than governments.
posted on 21/8/19
"There were 19 hijackers in all."
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Based on...? What you've been told.
.................
Better than basing it on something plucked from someones ar$e.
I would very much imagine the intelligence services would have a better idea than a numbnut on an internet forum called Winston.
Were they 100% accurate. We may never know.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
If numbers of people involved is the criteria for information being leaked, what happened with the 2007 housing market crash and why didn't anyone speak out about the shocking dishonesty prevalent amongst the credit reference agencies?
A flimsy argument against a conspiracy indeed.
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Every modern cash-based economy has seen an "economic correction" in one form or another roughly every decade or so for at least 400 years. Some obviously more painful than others.
The fine inter-linkage of modern day global trade has ensured that these cycles have become pretty much synchronised across nations.
Anyone with a calendar would know that we're currently overdue for a correction, but human nature makes us bury our heads in the sand. We'd rather tell ourselves that "it's going to be different this time, isn't it?"
All the signs are there. No conspiracies necessary.
posted on 21/8/19
To be fair there is a litany if examples where operatives didn't fully understand who they were working for throughout history. That's what agent provocateurs are.
.....................
I think these US Government operatives might have been slightly suspicious of their Government when they flew the planes into their targets.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 second ago
If numbers of people involved is the criteria for information being leaked, what happened with the 2007 housing market crash and why didn't anyone speak out about the shocking dishonesty prevalent amongst the credit reference agencies?
A flimsy argument against a conspiracy indeed.
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Every modern cash-based economy has seen an "economic correction" in one form or another roughly every decade or so for at least 400 years. Some obviously more painful than others.
The fine inter-linkage of modern day global trade has ensured that these cycles have become pretty much synchronised across nations.
Anyone with a calendar would know that we're currently overdue for a correction, but human nature makes us bury our heads in the sand. We'd rather tell ourselves that "it's going to be different this time, isn't it?"
All the signs are there. No conspiracies necessary.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're right in what you say but I'm not saying the crash was a conspiracy - I'm saying the actions of the credit agencies was.
And many people will have known about it.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 18 minutes ago
There's certainly an argument to be made that the US government allowed the 9/11 attacks to happen.
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I think that negligence came to light very early on.
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Suggesting that they orchestrated the whole thing is a bit far-fetched though, IMO.
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It is, isn't it.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 28 seconds ago
To be fair there is a litany if examples where operatives didn't fully understand who they were working for throughout history. That's what agent provocateurs are.
.....................
I think these US Government operatives might have been slightly suspicious of their Government when they flew the planes into their targets.
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The hijackers were jihadists or whatever and did not know they were working on a false flag op. Im saying the people who put it together. It's not a hard concept tbh.
The British did it a fair bit in Ireland I believe.
posted on 21/8/19
And Im talking early 1900's there.
posted on 21/8/19
The hijackers were jihadists or whatever and did not know they were working on a false flag op.
................
So, you think they were not doing this for their belief but were duped by the US Government.
Fair enough.
Don't see it myself.
posted on 21/8/19
What happened with WTC7 was shady as anything. That is very very fishy
posted on 21/8/19
(1) Mukden or Manchurian Incident - Japanese troops set off an explosion on a train track (1931), and blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria.
(2) Attacks on Germans – done by the Naz!s, but blamed on the Poles to justify the invasion of Poland.
(3) Violence on the Greek-Albanian border - carried out by Italian fascists and blamed on the Greeks, as an excuse for Italy’s 1940 invasion of Greece.
(4) Reichstag fire (1933) – blamed on Communists, carried out by Naz!s.
(5) Shell attack on the Russian village Mainila (1939) - blamed on Finland, carried out by the Red Army; as a justification for the “Winter War” against Finland.
(6) Execution of 22,000 Polish army officers (1940) - blamed on the Naz!s, but carried out by the Soviet secret police on orders by Stalin.
(7) Bombing of 5 ships carrying Jews to Palestine (1946 to 1948) – carried out by the British government, but blamed on the invented fake terrorist group “Defenders of Arab Palestine”.
(8) Bombs on several buildings in Egypt (1954) – carried out by Israelis implicating Arabs by leaving behind “evidence”.
(9) Bombings in Iran (1950s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by Iranians hired by CIA.
(10) Bombing Turkish consulate in Greece (1955) - blamed on Greece, but carried out by Turks.
(11) Attacks in Syria (1957) – planned and approved by British PM and US President Eisenhower, blamed on Syrian government.
(12) Bombings in Italy and other European countries (1950s-1980s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by NATO, Pentagon and CIA. Some examples:
Murder of Turkish Prime Minister (1960); Bombings in Portugal (1966); Piazza Fontana massacre in Italy (1969); Terror attacks in Turkey (1971); Peteano bombing in Italy (1972); Shootings in Brescia, Italy and bombing of an Italian train (1974); Shootings in Istanbul, Turkey (1977); Atocha massacre in Madrid, Spain (1977); Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978); Bombing railway station in Bologna, Italy (1980); Shooting and killing of 28 shoppers in Brabant county, Belgium (1985).
(18) FBI used provocateurs from the 1950s to 1970s to carry out violent acts - part of Cointelpro, blamed on (targeted) political activists.
(19) Burned down mosque on Cyprus (1970s) – carried out by Turkish forces and blamed on Greece.
(21) Bomb in outer wall of a German prison (1978) – carried out by the German government, a prisoner of the Red Army Faction was framed.
(22) Radio transmitter in Gaddafi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya broadcasting terrorist transmissions (1984) – carried out by Mossad, Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately.
posted on 21/8/19
Number 9
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
(1) Mukden or Manchurian Incident - Japanese troops set off an explosion on a train track (1931), and blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria.
(2) Attacks on Germans – done by the Naz!s, but blamed on the Poles to justify the invasion of Poland.
(3) Violence on the Greek-Albanian border - carried out by Italian fascists and blamed on the Greeks, as an excuse for Italy’s 1940 invasion of Greece.
(4) Reichstag fire (1933) – blamed on Communists, carried out by Naz!s.
(5) Shell attack on the Russian village Mainila (1939) - blamed on Finland, carried out by the Red Army; as a justification for the “Winter War” against Finland.
(6) Execution of 22,000 Polish army officers (1940) - blamed on the Naz!s, but carried out by the Soviet secret police on orders by Stalin.
(7) Bombing of 5 ships carrying Jews to Palestine (1946 to 1948) – carried out by the British government, but blamed on the invented fake terrorist group “Defenders of Arab Palestine”.
(8) Bombs on several buildings in Egypt (1954) – carried out by Israelis implicating Arabs by leaving behind “evidence”.
(9) Bombings in Iran (1950s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by Iranians hired by CIA.
(10) Bombing Turkish consulate in Greece (1955) - blamed on Greece, but carried out by Turks.
(11) Attacks in Syria (1957) – planned and approved by British PM and US President Eisenhower, blamed on Syrian government.
(12) Bombings in Italy and other European countries (1950s-1980s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by NATO, Pentagon and CIA. Some examples:
Murder of Turkish Prime Minister (1960); Bombings in Portugal (1966); Piazza Fontana massacre in Italy (1969); Terror attacks in Turkey (1971); Peteano bombing in Italy (1972); Shootings in Brescia, Italy and bombing of an Italian train (1974); Shootings in Istanbul, Turkey (1977); Atocha massacre in Madrid, Spain (1977); Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978); Bombing railway station in Bologna, Italy (1980); Shooting and killing of 28 shoppers in Brabant county, Belgium (1985).
(18) FBI used provocateurs from the 1950s to 1970s to carry out violent acts - part of Cointelpro, blamed on (targeted) political activists.
(19) Burned down mosque on Cyprus (1970s) – carried out by Turkish forces and blamed on Greece.
(21) Bomb in outer wall of a German prison (1978) – carried out by the German government, a prisoner of the Red Army Faction was framed.
(22) Radio transmitter in Gaddafi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya broadcasting terrorist transmissions (1984) – carried out by Mossad, Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately.
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Frightening.
Should put paid to anyone on here saying the 9/11 conspiracy theory is too far fetched!
posted on 21/8/19
Should put paid to anyone on here saying the 9/11 conspiracy theory is too far fetched!
.............
Not in the slightest.
Every one of them is a minor incident that has been apparently rumbled. #2 is a bit iffy when you consider Hitler didn't need an excuse to invade anyone. He just did it.
9/11 is massive on scale compared to any of them and no evidence has yet proved US Government involvement.
posted on 21/8/19
I'd say number 12 is a biggy
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 34 minutes ago
(1) Mukden or Manchurian Incident - Japanese troops set off an explosion on a train track (1931), and blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria.
(2) Attacks on Germans – done by the Naz!s, but blamed on the Poles to justify the invasion of Poland.
(3) Violence on the Greek-Albanian border - carried out by Italian fascists and blamed on the Greeks, as an excuse for Italy’s 1940 invasion of Greece.
(4) Reichstag fire (1933) – blamed on Communists, carried out by Naz!s.
(5) Shell attack on the Russian village Mainila (1939) - blamed on Finland, carried out by the Red Army; as a justification for the “Winter War” against Finland.
(6) Execution of 22,000 Polish army officers (1940) - blamed on the Naz!s, but carried out by the Soviet secret police on orders by Stalin.
(7) Bombing of 5 ships carrying Jews to Palestine (1946 to 1948) – carried out by the British government, but blamed on the invented fake terrorist group “Defenders of Arab Palestine”.
(8) Bombs on several buildings in Egypt (1954) – carried out by Israelis implicating Arabs by leaving behind “evidence”.
(9) Bombings in Iran (1950s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by Iranians hired by CIA.
(10) Bombing Turkish consulate in Greece (1955) - blamed on Greece, but carried out by Turks.
(11) Attacks in Syria (1957) – planned and approved by British PM and US President Eisenhower, blamed on Syrian government.
(12) Bombings in Italy and other European countries (1950s-1980s) - blamed on Communists, but carried out by NATO, Pentagon and CIA. Some examples:
Murder of Turkish Prime Minister (1960); Bombings in Portugal (1966); Piazza Fontana massacre in Italy (1969); Terror attacks in Turkey (1971); Peteano bombing in Italy (1972); Shootings in Brescia, Italy and bombing of an Italian train (1974); Shootings in Istanbul, Turkey (1977); Atocha massacre in Madrid, Spain (1977); Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978); Bombing railway station in Bologna, Italy (1980); Shooting and killing of 28 shoppers in Brabant county, Belgium (1985).
(18) FBI used provocateurs from the 1950s to 1970s to carry out violent acts - part of Cointelpro, blamed on (targeted) political activists.
(19) Burned down mosque on Cyprus (1970s) – carried out by Turkish forces and blamed on Greece.
(21) Bomb in outer wall of a German prison (1978) – carried out by the German government, a prisoner of the Red Army Faction was framed.
(22) Radio transmitter in Gaddafi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya broadcasting terrorist transmissions (1984) – carried out by Mossad, Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately.
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You can’t trust anyone these days
posted on 21/8/19
I'd say number 12 is a biggy
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They are a combination of lots of small incidents.
I just checked on one of them.
Murder of Italian Prime Minister (1978)
This was carried out by the Red Brigade. Nothing but conspiracy theories to suggest otherwise.
posted on 21/8/19
Hope this is okay, its free of abuse although i appreciate it circumvents your filter OP:
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 24 minutes ago
Yeah Righteous was a good poster and he liked an argument or two. He made good contributions and I was interested in what he had to say.
He was a bit self righteous, no one is perfect but it was brought up all the time and at some point, a number of posters who he'd previously had run ins with would gang up and have a go, even though he was on the right more often than not IMO.
Its the nature of the site. You get into fisticuffs with someone on Monday, another on Tuesday and so on. By Friday, you are in line to be banned as the wave of protest against you has grown.
Its like real life in that respect lol
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comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
Also, could someone go on this thread
http://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewAllComments/411630/8
and post this for me
My two cents on 9/11
I don't know if 9/11 was a false flag.
People who say it was or wasn't as if they're sure are stupid IMO.
If Operation Northwoods (a near carbon copy of 9/11) had actually gone through, we'd now be arguing about it with some being certain it was a false flag and others calling them idiots for believing in a conspiracy theory
I think it was JFK that put a stop to it but what if he hadn't?
People think they're smart. With information and education readily available in this age, people feel that they'd know if a conspiracy was afoot and they're too smart to be duped. Its creates some arrogance and ignorance.
If the joint chiefs of staff can come up with Operation Northwoods, what else have they done over the years? And that's just the joint chiefs of staff alone.
Operation Northwoods was a prototype of 9/11 which would have required the cooperation of very few people and in between the two events there was enough decades to perfect the plan.
Looking at operation Northwoods together with all the suspicions and evidence sorrounding 9/11, how can anyone say for sure it wasn't a false flag?
Points like how many people it would take to do it just prove my point. You are a common man living a normal day to day life. Of course you can't fathom how its possible but it could be possible and you would have no clue.
Another point is compartmentalisation where one department of a project has no idea what the project is for or what the other department is doing. In the end its impossible for participants in the project to join the dots. Projects can be undertaken by hundreds/thousands of people without them ever knowing the end result.
I'm arguing pro conspiracy a bit because most of the anti conspiracy points have been made already but for me, if you're sure it was or wasn't, then you're stupid. You don't know.
IMO.
Thanks in advance.
posted on 21/8/19
People who say it was or wasn't as if they're sure are stupid IMO.
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TLDR: The post just kinda repeats that over and over. Boring.
posted on 21/8/19
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posted on 21/8/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
9/11 is conceivable though, i don't believe it but you can see how it could be achieved.
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No I can not.
It was too big to be kept secret. Far too many people would have had to be in on it.
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The Federal Reserve print money from thin-air and charge it to the US Govt.........with interest added.
Not only is this against The Constitution, virtually every tax dollar the US take goes to paying the interest ALONE to this private institution.
Those who are aware of this fact far outnumber those who may have been involved in 9/11 (for example) so ''secrets'' are obviously not too hard to keep.
Hiding in plain (plane?) sight is easy when faced with a compliant population.
You're getting screwed every single day and can't see it.
posted on 21/8/19
If you type Illuminati backwards ie itanimulli, you end up on the NSA website......
posted on 21/8/19
The Federal Reserve print money from thin-air and charge it to the US Govt.........with interest added.
Not only is this against The Constitution, virtually every tax dollar the US take goes to paying the interest ALONE to this private institution.
Those who are aware of this fact far outnumber those who may have been involved in 9/11 (for example) so ''secrets'' are obviously not too hard to keep.
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They obviously are if you are aware of this fact.
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